Jack's lies about Kate's heroism made her uncomfortable. Was that because he was lying for her? Or because of the truth about the survivors that they are both hiding?
I thought it was funny that the Kate he described is the Kate the writers originally envisioned, back when her character was supposed to rescue everyone and Dr. Jack was supposed to die in the pilot episode.

I think in part because it was lies, but also because Jack was describing what HE did on the day of the crash. He was giving her all the credit for his heroism, and she likely felt she didn't deserve it and couldn't stand to hear it.

I think it may be both. And obviously guilt.

Yeah, it definitely made her uncomfortable, because she knew he was lying under oath. When he said he didn't love her anymore, I assumed he was still lying, and was happy when I was found to be right :)

Well he didn't lie about the first aid. Didn't she sew him up like she did her curtains?
She did go gather bananas and fruit so she did help feed them. I like how Jack can now tell a lie like a born CON. He doesn't even blink and he mixes in some truth.

Jack's lies about Kate's heroism made her uncomfortable. Was that because he was lying for her? Or because of the truth about the survivors that they are both hiding?
I thought it was funny that the Kate he described is the Kate the writers originally envisioned, back when her character was supposed to rescue everyone and Dr. Jack was supposed to die in the pilot episode.

It sounded like a well-rehearsed story he was to tell anytime he was questioned by the "outside" about what happened to the Oceanic 6. I'm sure whoever TPTB who are pulling the strings for them to be back in civilization made sure they all told the "same story" with no deviations - or their friends are toast. Also - it seems each of the Oceanic 6 has a "loose hair" that may be pulled at anytime. They are in their own sort of prison.

I think she respects Jack enough that she didn't want him lying under oath for her.

Jack's lies about Kate's heroism made her uncomfortable. Was that because he was lying for her? Or because of the truth about the survivors that they are both hiding?
I thought it was funny that the Kate he described is the Kate the writers originally envisioned, back when her character was supposed to rescue everyone and Dr. Jack was supposed to die in the pilot episode.


I think the survivor 6's escape off the island makes them both uncomfortable also Jack lying for her 9knowing how moral he is) makes her uncomfortable, and just seeing Jack being grilled did not make her happy.

It definitely made her uncomfortable to have him lying under oath for her. Especially when she wasn't expecting to see him in court. She specifically said she didn't want him saying another word -- she had heard enough.

It sounded like a well-rehearsed story he was to tell anytime he was questioned by the "outside" about what happened to the Oceanic 6. I'm sure whoever TPTB who are pulling the strings for them to be back in civilization made sure they all told the "same story" with no deviations - or their friends are toast. Also - it seems each of the Oceanic 6 has a "loose hair" that may be pulled at anytime. They are in their own sort of prison.

She was uncomfortable that he was lying for her yes, but I believe it was more so about their "story".

When Kate and Jack are in the parking garage, she says, "You've told that story (about Kate) so many times, it sounds like your beginning to believe it yourself" (or something very, very close).

;)

The LIE is killing Jack, that's for sure. You can see it in his eyes.

I think she respects Jack enough that she didn't want him lying under oath for her.

Yep.

And what about Jack? What has he now become? He's lost all integrity and is able to lie under oath and not even blink. This bugged me about him. I thought he'd turn out better. Now he's no better than Ben and Locke's dad.

he lied to make her an heroine so she could be proved innocent...because she's not bad anymore

Now he's no better than Ben and Locke's dad.

Ben: committed mass murder and killed his father on the same day. Has tortured and imprisoned numerous people. Terrorized a poor innocent bunny.

Locke's father: destroyed countless families and caused unspeakable tragedies such as the one that befell wee!Sawyer. Stole Locke's kidney. Pushed his son out of the window. Murdered that guy who was on to him.

Jack: lied under oath to keep Kate out of jail and is lying about what happened on the Island for reasons we do not know yet but which may or may not be related to Sayid protecting his friends.

Yeah, I can totally see how you'd think they're the same...

i dont know i guess thats because im a jater but i found it so romantic! a man like jack who didnt even lie for his own father lies under oath for kate... that was a very romantic scene for me but maybe its because im biased :biggrin:

Was he lying for Kate or simply regurgitating a very well rehearsed story that all of the Oceanic 6 are telling for reasons bigger than keeping Kate out of jail. I'm going to go with the latter.

The LIE is killing Jack, that's for sure. You can see it in his eyes.

I can't imagine him saying Kate is a hero is killing him. It's something else about the story...maybe that only 8 survived, maybe an as yet to be revealed piece of the lie that we can only throw guesses at right now.

:confused:

What I couldn't figure is, why was she soooo built up?! I mean, I get that shes gotta be painted in this perfect, remoresful light in order to make it seem she had changed.
BUT, she was starting to sound like a dang saint there. I personally, thought the crash/saving survivors lies had gotten close to the point of ridiculous.

It sounded like a well-rehearsed story he was to tell anytime he was questioned by the "outside" about what happened to the Oceanic 6. I'm sure whoever TPTB who are pulling the strings for them to be back in civilization made sure they all told the "same story" with no deviations - or their friends are toast. Also - it seems each of the Oceanic 6 has a "loose hair" that may be pulled at anytime. They are in their own sort of prison. Yes, Jack and Hurley look ready to crack at any moment, and Sayid is being forced to be an assassin.

The story actually sounded like Ana Lucia's story - plane landing in the water, pulling people out of the water, providing first aid. A lie is easier to maintain if it's based on a real story that they can internalize so they don't mess up the "facts".

I think she respects Jack enough that she didn't want him lying under oath for her. Yes, I think seeing him actually lie under oath made her uncomfortable for him knowing how much he values truth. So she stopped him under the pretense of not wanting to flaunt her heroism or whatever the impression we were supposed to have was.

Both Jack and Kate had "tells" or mannerisms they did when he lied on the stand. Kate looked down as soon as he started his story about how she saved the other survivors. Jack teared up a little when he said he didn't love her anymore. That's not your poker face, Jack!
In the end it didn't matter in this over-contrived trial scene anyway.

too bad he didnt get to the part where she has a child and who the other 6 were...

Yep.

And what about Jack? What has he now become? He's lost all integrity and is able to lie under oath and not even blink. This bugged me about him. I thought he'd turn out better. Now he's no better than Ben and Locke's dad.

I think the story Jack told was to save Kate from prison and is possibly to keep those left on the island safe. By telling this story, Jack takes all the accolades, fame, and honor he should have received for his heroic actions and places them on Kate. It seems to be a completely selfless act on his part. It is not the selfish act of Locke's dad and not the self serving act of Ben Linus.

Even still it is a lie, but I'm sure in his mind the only one really hurt by that lie is him. It is obvious that he loves Kate more than he loves his own ego. So he was more than willing to do this.

Yeah, I can totally see how you'd think they're the same...

Touche...Perhaps I eggsagerate. But you have to admit that its his integrity that separates himself from so many, it even alienates him.

On a rewatch I noticed Kate's comment near the end "You've told that story so many times that it sound like you almost believe it."

Touche...Perhaps I eggsagerate. But you have to admit that its his integrity that separates himself from so many, it even alienates him.

On a rewatch I noticed Kate's comment near the end "You've told that story so many times that it sound like you almost believe it."
I think after him trying to murder Locke, lying under oath is nothing.

Touche...Perhaps I eggsagerate. But you have to admit that its his integrity that separates himself from so many, it even alienates him.

On a rewatch I noticed Kate's comment near the end "You've told that story so many times that it sound like you almost believe it."

Though it is an exaggeration to compare Jack to Ben and Locke's Dad, the point is valid. Jack was a man who lived his life by the truth. No matter his actions, they were always made with the best intentions and honesty. He could have killed Ben on the operating table, but he didn't. His father probably would have.

Now, slowly, we are seeing a very different Jack. One who pulls a trigger on Locke (even though the gun wasn't loaded), one who commits perjury, one who will try to illegally fill a prescription and steal meds from the hospital. This is absolutely not the same Jack.

And I do think there are two parts to his testimony. One part is to save Kate from prison. The other is to continue this lie that I don't believe is entire selfless. He's made a deal with the devil that got him off the island.

The story actually sounded like Ana Lucia's story - plane landing in the water, pulling people out of the water, providing first aid. A lie is easier to maintain if it's based on a real story that they can internalize so they don't mess up the "facts".

That's exactly what I thought when listening to Jack's version of the story...it was like a shoutout to Ana's courage.

Yep.

And what about Jack? What has he now become? He's lost all integrity and is able to lie under oath and not even blink. This bugged me about him. I thought he'd turn out better. Now he's no better than Ben and Locke's dad.

yeah that sounds weird to me! We are talking about the guy who was not lying for a father in season 1 when he failed an operation...
So i see a 2 main options:
1/-someone told him to lie about oceanic , about kate etc... so he has no choice but all this is killing him and that's why he'll end up trying to kill himself on the bridge... i always thought integrity was the world who defined jack the best!
2/-he's totally in love with kate so he's lying for her...but in this case why he's not ok to take a coffee or anything else with her juste because of a child who is not sawyer's or any other guy's child!??? Weird!

The story actually sounded like Ana Lucia's story - plane landing in the water, pulling people out of the water, providing first aid. A lie is easier to maintain if it's based on a real story that they can internalize so they don't mess up the "facts". That's exactly what I thought when listening to Jack's version of the story...it was like a shoutout to Ana's courage.
Yep it was Ana-Lucia's crash story - easier to repeat a story you have heard & know than to make up something from scratch.

I think in part because it was lies, but also because Jack was describing what HE did on the day of the crash. He was giving her all the credit for his heroism, and she likely felt she didn't deserve it and couldn't stand to hear it.

That's what I was thinking when I heard his testimony. I was thinking "Hey, that's what YOU did, not Kate." I'm curious to know what the public knows about Jack.

The LIE is killing Jack, that's for sure. You can see it in his eyes.

Definitely. The lies are eating him from the inside out, and those hits of vodka in his orange juice are the tell tale signs of that fact.

Yep.

And what about Jack? What has he now become? He's lost all integrity and is able to lie under oath and not even blink. This bugged me about him. I thought he'd turn out better. Now he's no better than Ben and Locke's dad.

I couldn't disagree more. First of all, we have no idea WHY Jack is lying. He may be lying to protect people or the Losties on the island. Mr. Abaddon is clearly looking for "them" when he questions Hurley in the institution. Part of the definition of integrity is decency, and until we know the reasons behind why the Oceanic 6 are lying, I'll reserve judgement. There's too much I simply don't know yet.

Was he lying for Kate or simply regurgitating a very well rehearsed story that all of the Oceanic 6 are telling for reasons bigger than keeping Kate out of jail. I'm going to go with the latter.

I'm with you, Flyer. There's a much bigger story than just keeping Kate out of jail, and the fact that Jack is lying so easily tells me that they have rehearsed their stories well. So the remaining question is "Why?"

I think the story Jack told was to save Kate from prison and is possibly to keep those left on the island safe. By telling this story, Jack takes all the accolades, fame, and honor he should have received for his heroic actions and places them on Kate. It seems to be a completely selfless act on his part. It is not the selfish act of Locke's dad and not the self serving act of Ben Linus.

I'll tell you, the more I see the FF, the more I'm dying to know more about what happened to those who stayed on the island. It would be interesting if they made the decision to stay, and as a result, their lives are now in danger, it's interesting that the Oceanic 6 have to go back to rescue them. That's just another theory.

Even still it is a lie, but I'm sure in his mind the only one really hurt by that lie is him. It is obvious that he loves Kate more than he loves his own ego. So he was more than willing to do this.Well said. It's not like Jack was on the stand telling everyone how great HE was on the island. Instead, he was telling everyone how great KATE was on the island, and although she was heroic, Jack was lying about what she did. If he gets caught in the lie and accused of perjury, HE is the one who takes the heat. Jack's ego wasn't anywhere in this scenario.

Touche...Perhaps I eggsagerate. But you have to admit that its his integrity that separates himself from so many, it even alienates him.

That's a good point that I never really thought about. When you have that kind of integrity, it does sort of make other people feel uncomfortable. It's also true that Jack has had to compromise parts of himself, but before I can say he's taken a darker turn, I have to know more about why they are all doing what their doing. There's too many unanswered questions.

It definitely made her uncomfortable to have him lying under oath for her. Especially when she wasn't expecting to see him in court. She specifically said she didn't want him saying another word -- she had heard enough.

I thought Kate was going to say something enlightening when she stood up and interrupted Jack. She said "this has nothing to do with -" then stopped and rephrased what she was saying.

Maybe she just meant it had nothing to do with the truth. But maybe she was tempted to give something away, something the 06 is not allowed to reveal.

There were a few things that stuck me about his testimony. The first one was the look of suprise on Kate's face when her defense attorney called Jack in to testify re: her character. The most obvious one was his testimony itself. I agree with the majority of the posters on this thread that it did sound very rehearsed and that he perjured himself. He did pause before responding re: 'Do you love her?' In my view, that one was more difficult for him to answer. He's always tried to protect Kate and puts her well-being before his, as well as all the other Losties, but their rescue and how it happened or what happened in the process is THE big lie; a lie so huge that it impacts his integrity, which above all else defines Jack. There's hell to pay and it is just beginning.

I'm with Maxum when it comes to any judgement. There is still so much more info. we havent' been presented yet. We've only been given morsels and for me, that isn't enough to make an educated guess.

That's what I was thinking when I heard his testimony. I was thinking "Hey, that's what YOU did, not Kate." I'm curious to know what the public knows about Jack.



Definitely. The lies are eating him from the inside out, and those hits of vodka in his orange juice are the tell tale signs of that fact.



I couldn't disagree more. First of all, we have no idea WHY Jack is lying. He may be lying to protect people or the Losties on the island. Mr. Abaddon is clearly looking for "them" when he questions Hurley in the institution. Part of the definition of integrity is decency, and until we know the reasons behind why the Oceanic 6 are lying, I'll reserve judgement. There's too much I simply don't know yet.



I'm with you, Flyer. There's a much bigger story than just keeping Kate out of jail, and the fact that Jack is lying so easily tells me that they have rehearsed their stories well. So the remaining question is "Why?"



I'll tell you, the more I see the FF, the more I'm dying to know more about what happened to those who stayed on the island. It would be interesting if they made the decision to stay, and as a result, their lives are now in danger, it's interesting that the Oceanic 6 have to go back to rescue them. That's just another theory.

Well said. It's not like Jack was on the stand telling everyone how great HE was on the island. Instead, he was telling everyone how great KATE was on the island, and although she was heroic, Jack was lying about what she did. If he gets caught in the lie and accused of perjury, HE is the one who takes the heat. Jack's ego wasn't anywhere in this scenario.



That's a good point that I never really thought about. When you have that kind of integrity, it does sort of make other people feel uncomfortable. It's also true that Jack has had to compromise parts of himself, but before I can say he's taken a darker turn, I have to know more about why they are all doing what their doing. There's too many unanswered questions.

There were a few things that stuck me about his testimony. The first one was the look of suprise on Kate's face when her defense attorney called Jack in to testify re: her character. The most obvious one was his testimony itself. I agree with the majority of the posters on this thread that it did sound very rehearsed and that he perjured himself. He did pause before responding re: 'Do you love her?' In my view, that one was more difficult for him to answer. He's always tried to protect Kate and puts her well-being before his, as well as all the other Losties, but their rescue and how it happened or what happened in the process is THE big lie; a lie so huge that it impacts his integrity, which above all else defines Jack. There's hell to pay and it is just beginning.

I'm with Maxum when it comes to any judgement. There is still so much more info. we havent' been presented yet. We've only been given morsels and for me, that isn't enough to make an educated guess.

Excellent points. It was the lies that Jack was telling on the stand, that garnered my interest more than anything else in this episode. Those lies and Jack discussion with Kate about them, certainly is making me feel like I want to see the next chapter of this amazing story. How do the O6 get off the island, who stays behind and why, and who is pulling the strings in the future?

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I think the story Jack told was to save Kate from prison and is possibly to keep those left on the island safe. By telling this story, Jack takes all the accolades, fame, and honor he should have received for his heroic actions and places them on Kate. It seems to be a completely selfless act on his part. It is not the selfish act of Locke's dad and not the self serving act of Ben Linus.

Even still it is a lie, but I'm sure in his mind the only one really hurt by that lie is him. It is obvious that he loves Kate more than he loves his own ego. So he was more than willing to do this.

Well, honestly, we still don't know that. While there is no doubt that Locke's dad was a bastard, we don't really know why Jack was lying and how he was lying...There were a million ways to protect Kate as a character witness, and these particular lies do not prove he is selfless, rather than there is some agenda going on.

And, of course, I have to defend Ben- I don't think he's doing ANYTHING as a self-serving act...We really don't know anything about him, even after all those FB's...I kinda have an idea what his story is, but however I twist it, I don't see him as self-serving.

Yep.

And what about Jack? What has he now become? He's lost all integrity and is able to lie under oath and not even blink. This bugged me about him. I thought he'd turn out better. Now he's no better than Ben and Locke's dad.

Great point, and I think it's a major theme. The island has always seemed to reflect what happened in real life, and here it is again. On island, the Losties have taken over the ways of the "Others" to the Freightees. They even have them in the same camp, and are pointing guns at them. It's come full circle.

Off island, Jack has become an "other" as well. He has become just like the people he had no respect for.

And, of course, I have to defend Ben- I don't think he's doing ANYTHING as a self-serving act...We really don't know anything about him, even after all those FB's...I kinda have an idea what his story is, but however I twist it, I don't see him as self-serving.

Sorry but even though it may be nice to imagine that Ben has saving the universe at heart, every single act he has taken has been to serve his own purpose. Whatever that happens to mean. Therefore, to me, his acts are self serving.

We may not know what Ben's ultimate goal is or who he is ultimately working for, but the means he employs to whatever ends are plain to anyone. Ben will do whatever he has to, anything -- including manipulate, lie, steal, kidnap, shoot, drug, poison, and blackmail, in order to serve his goals.

Sorry but even though it may be nice to imagine that Ben has saving the universe at heart, every single act he has taken has been to serve his own purpose. Whatever that happens to mean. Therefore, to me, his acts are self serving.

We may not know what Ben's ultimate goal is or who he is ultimately working for, but the means he employs to whatever ends are plain to anyone. Ben will do whatever he has to, anything -- including manipulate, lie, steal, kidnap, shoot, drug, poison, and blackmail, in order to serve his goals.

But if he's saving the world/humanity/the universe, then wouldn't the end justify doing anything he needed to do for the greater good? That's the one scenario that would make Ben out to be a hero, IMO. And it would explain one Jeremy Bentham in the coffin (Bentham was the philosopher who said the greatest good for the greatest number was key).

But if he's saving the world/humanity/the universe, then wouldn't the end justify doing anything he needed to do for the greater good?

Not to me. But that's a matter of personal opinion. Who defines what the greater good is? How many times in world history have we seen the tragic results of some misguided person claiming they were doing it (whaterve "it" is) for the greater good?

Sorry, but that doesn't fly with me.

Not to me. But that's a matter of personal opinion. Who defines what the greater good is? How many times in world history have we seen the tragic results of some misguided person claiming they were doing it (whaterve "it" is) for the greater good?

Sorry, but that doesn't fly with me.

But if he/she knew (due to the time-loop theories) exactly how it would pan out, then said person wouldn't necessarily be misguided, would they?:cool:

But if he/she knew (due to the time-loop theories) exactly how it would pan out, then said person wouldn't necessarily be misguided, would they?:cool:

Again, it's a matter of personal opinion, I find Ben's methods questionable, to say the least and those methods do not justify any means in my book. There's always a better way to accomplish your objectives that doesn't include murder, attempted murder, kidnapping, etc.

Sorry, but, I'll never be convinced.

Again, it's a matter of personal opinion, I find Ben's methods questionable, to say the least and those methods do not justify any means in my book. There's always a better way to accomplish your objectives that doesn't include murder, attempted murder, kidnapping, etc.

Sorry, but, I'll never be convinced.

So, I take it you aren't a Bentham, fan?

Seriously, I see your point and agree with your premise. But I think one of the themes of this show is that whether you see someone as mostly good or mostly bad depends on your perspective.

I also think there have been MANY times in history when killing others has been seen as a way to serve the "greater good" - basically, in any war, one side believes it's justified (perhaps even divinely so) to kill off the other side. There are enough war allusions in Lost to assume that there is a war between light and dark going on.

But, I appreciate your idealism. :rolleyes:

So, how about Jack committing perjury?

(Trying to get the thread back on topic :) )

She was uncomfortable that he was lying for her yes, but I believe it was more so about their "story".

When Kate and Jack are in the parking garage, she says, "You've told that story (about Kate) so many times, it sounds like your beginning to believe it yourself" (or something very, very close).

;)

I think this was the KEY statement that we were supposed to pick up on. This was not the only time Jack has told this story so it is safe to assume that although he did it to save Kate, That is not the only reason.

I think that when Kate said "that story..." she didn't mean the story about her specifically...but THE story that they are supposed to tell everyone.

He told this story because this is the story that they have to tell. This is THE LIE that Jack mentions to Kate in TTLG at the end IMO. The only difference is that Kate didn't allow Jack to continue with the whole story at the trial.

The LIE is killing Jack, that's for sure. You can see it in his eyes.

And see it in that last season finale scene too.

When Kate said "you've told that story so many times..." I thought wow...exactly HOW MANY TIMES HAS HE HAD TO TELL THAT STORY? interesting!

I think this was the KEY statement that we were supposed to pick up on. This was not the only time Jack has told this story so it is safe to assume that although he did it to save Kate, That is not the only reason.

I think that when Kate said "that story..." she didn't mean the story about her specifically...but THE story that they are supposed to tell everyone.

He told this story because this is the story that they have to tell. This is THE LIE that Jack mentions to Kate in TTLG at the end IMO. The only difference is that Kate didn't allow Jack to continue with the whole story at the trial.



And see it in that last season finale scene too.

When Kate said "you've told that story so many times..." I thought wow...exactly HOW MANY TIMES HAS HE HAD TO TELL THAT STORY? interesting!

Yeah Lenny, while I appreciate all the threads, I don't understand this one. This point seems to have been made very clearly on the show. Jack (TTLG), "I'm tired of lying Kate. We have to go back!". Kate (Eggtown), "You've told that story so many times, it sounds like you're beginning to believe it yourself."

It seems obvious to me that Jack is telling the story he's been forced to tell, and I think you're right about her cutting him off - maybe because she is trying to avoid "telling" the lie. If she just doesn't talk, no need to lie. But, yeah, while Jack, I'm sure, has personal motive to protect Kate from jail time, I think the forced lying is what we are to ponder, further, from this scene. Only thing is, we can't ponder much because we only got confirmation that Jack is lying because he has too...

It funny how the writers set us up in the season finale last year with 3 main questions...

Who is the "he" that Kate has to go back to?
What is "the lie" that Jack is tired of telling?
Who is in the coffin?Well, I think they answered #'s 1 and 2 pretty clearly (unless they are throwing us a huge curve...not unheard of on this show)

That, of course, has given us even more questions...

Who are the 8 that survived?
What happened to Claire?
Is Aaron in danger now that he is raised by another?
Why did Kate take him? and many more...in classic LOST fashion, they answer 2 big questions and leave us with 100 more!
Will we be getting the coffin answer soon? Methinks we will.

It seems obvious to me that Jack is telling the story he's been forced to tell, and I think you're right about her cutting him off - maybe because she is trying to avoid "telling" the lie. If she just doesn't talk, no need to lie. But, yeah, while Jack, I'm sure, has personal motive to protect Kate from jail time, I think the forced lying is what we are to ponder, further, from this scene. Only thing is, we can't ponder much because we only got confirmation that Jack is lying because he has too...

That's the conclusion that I came to as well. It seems to me that Jack is telling a lie that he is being forced to say. Of course the question now is who and why is forcing him to say this lie?

It funny how the writers set us up in the season finale last year with 3 main questions...

Who is the "he" that Kate has to go back to?
What is "the lie" that Jack is tired of telling?
Who is in the coffin?Well, I think they answered #'s 1 and 2 pretty clearly (unless they are throwing us a huge curve...not unheard of on this show)

That, of course, has given us even more questions...

Who are the 8 that survived?
What happened to Claire?
Is Aaron in danger now that he is raised by another?
Why did Kate take him? and many more...in classic LOST fashion, they answer 2 big questions and leave us with 100 more!Will we be getting the coffin answer soon? Methinks we will.

Good summary as to what questions have been answered and which new questions have been raised.

I was surprised Abaddon was not in the court room checking out testimonies.

I was surprised Abaddon was not in the court room checking out testimonies.

Oh...I've been looking for him everywhere! Each scene I take a look around for him.

That's one freaky dude.

too bad he didnt get to the part where she has a child and who the other 6 were...

:24: That was an awesome comment.

Oh...I've been looking for him everywhere! Each scene I take a look around for him.

That's one freaky dude.

Yep, between him and Ben our losties have not too much chance really...

I am surprised that you are surprised by Jack's lies. I mean, we already saw him lie to protect somebody, remember Juliet's "trial" back in S3? He lied for her too, pretty easily. So it's not that out of character... A lie is just as bad as its consequences, and here Jack had one good reason to lie.

The problem doesn't consists of the part he had to take in Court for Kate. His conscience problems come from what they had to do to leave the island, and whom they left behind...