What exactly was going on here? Daniel was able to know 2 out of the 3 cards, and that was considered "progress".

Was he totally guessing/trying to see them before he really 'saw" them, or did he see them first and was trying to remember them? I thought Charlotte said something about remembering? Maybe I'm the one that can't remember?

i thought she said it's been 30 minutes, so that led me to believe he couldnt remember...maybe his "autism" or whatever makes him different/special is working in reverse on the island

There is something wrong with this guy and that's all there is to it... Now to figure out what it is...

That's what I thought it was. He was trying to remember three cards after a period of time and maybe she was trying to tell him he was improving but he's still frustrated. I wonder what his issue actually is and why Charlotte is helping him with it. Maybe he was hoping he would improve on the island because of the electromagnetic properties.

Interesting that the Queen of Diamonds was included The Manchurian Candidate.

I think its short term memory loss perhaps

Wasn't it the Queen of Diamonds in Alice or was that the Queen of Hearts?

Also in the Eagle song Desperado one lyric goes something like "Don't pick the Queen of Diamonds boy she'll beat you if she's able . . ."

Lastly I believe that whatever those two Dan and Charlotte know of the island they suspect it gives you or improves your psychic powers.

I'm not sure about the "remembering" part either, but perhaps he was trying to "see" the cards psychically? Hmmm.

He was hoping for better memory though, that's not psychic ability.

I really feel for Dan. Right now he's the only character I'm interested in. I wonder what's wrong with him.

I agree with Sawyer's Mojito that it looks like some sort of short term memory loss caused by either physical or emotional trauma.

Cardie

He just seems so dang fragile. Nice of Charlotte to show him an ethic of care considering all that is going on!

It seems like he was expecting the island to heal him of his ailment.

I believe that these people know about this island, and have been studying it from afar. They may also know about the strange mysterious properties and the effect it has on people with "special" abilities. I think they are trying to enhance their paranormal skills so they can be more in tuned with the island. Poor Dan is 3rd eye challenged.

At first I thought they were trying to re-build some psychic power that was lost. After seeing that other people saw it a memory loss, I'm wondering if that's why he didn't know why he was crying when watching the 815 wreckage. Could it be that he's amnesiac?

At first I thought they were trying to re-build some psychic power that was lost. After seeing that other people saw it a memory loss, I'm wondering if that's why he didn't know why he was crying when watching the 815 wreckage. Could it be that he's amnesiac?

Good point about the flashback scene, I forgot. Clearly put these two together and he has some sort of cognitive impairment.

He was hoping for better memory though, that's not psychic ability.

I really feel for Dan. Right now he's the only character I'm interested in. I wonder what's wrong with him.:shesaid:

I think the bigger sicnificance is in the inclusion of the Queen of Diamonds card... It ties Kate to Jacob and Ben.

PLEASE READ MY THREAD TITLED: "The Queen of Diamonds is very significant! You won't be disappointed!

He was hoping for better memory though, that's not psychic ability.

I really feel for Dan. Right now he's the only character I'm interested in. I wonder what's wrong with him.

I guess I thought of it that way cuz psychic card-reading was big back when I was in college; we all gave it a try, and with the other references, like Skinner, it seemed to tie in.

I agree--I like Dan the best, but perhaps that's what the writers are hoping for so they can kill 'im off and make us cry some more! ahh...LOST.

Good point about the flashback scene, I forgot. Clearly put these two together and he has some sort of cognitive impairment.
I thought cognitive impairment too. I think we are supposed to think of him as some sort of idiot savante. Sorry if that is not a PC term.

My dvr was screwy and I totally missed this scene, when did it take place (approximate time into the show)?

I learned from Rain Man that autistic savant is the appropriate term. ;)

Guys

Its is definately Memory Loss

Look at Confirmed Dead, when we first meet Faraday, and you will see him try and recall his name when asked by Jack and Kate

When he took such a long pause to recall his name I thought he had some type of concentration problem or that wasnt his real name. This Epi confirms he has Memory Loss

The real question is how does this relate to him crying when 815 crashed? He said he didnt know why--and my guess is he doesnt remember what he knows about it.

Why are you writing like that? It looks like you're yelling at us.

This theory is still forming, so I'm not totally sure how to word it, but maybe the "precognitive" aspects of some characters is really more of a memory due to the obvious time shifting going on.

There is something wrong with this guy and that's all there is to it... Now to figure out what it is...

This is actually the best theory so far... ;) Thanks tolloli!

At first I thought they were trying to re-build some psychic power that was lost. After seeing that other people saw it a memory loss, I'm wondering if that's why he didn't know why he was crying when watching the 815 wreckage. Could it be that he's amnesiac?

I had actually forgotten about his FB scene. Perhaps he was involved in the crash somehow and "someone" tried to erase the memories??

He and Charlotte definitely seemed to be playing a game where he needed to *remember* or *recall* what he had just seen - not use a psychic ability to guess what they were.

I almost wonder if Daniel may have been to the Island before... Perhaps they tried to remove some memories and now he has short-term memory loss?

Naomi referred to him as a "head case".

I don't think he failed to recall his own name when he first met Jack and Kate. I think he was overwhelmed by the situation, being thrown out of a plane, being stuck in his parachute, and knowing that he is supposed to secure his weapon immediately - even though he likely has no experience with any of these things!

I don't see any evidence yet that his memory, etc., is different from before the island. In fact, he seems much more with it now. GL is right - Naomi already knew him as a "head case."

Was the card game with Charlotte related to the island, or to a mental illness, or both? I remember when Daniel was first introduced to us, he had a caretaker, and she had asked him what's wrong. He replied with a tearful, "I don't know." So, my question is, what do you think is wrong with him?

Poor Dan!:frown: I'm so loving this character. I agree that he has some sort of memory problem. He is a genius, but a can't remember a card. I can't wait to learn more about!

Why are you writing like that? It looks like you're yelling at us.

Hey

Because thats the answer. The bold will make it easy for people who skim threads but want to know the answer without reading all the other chitchat

Did you get yelled at as a child?:biggrin: Because CAPS is yelling-----bold is a prominent point

I just re-watched this scene, and it seems to me that Daniel is in fact suffering from short-term memory loss. My guess is this is just one symptom of a more pronounced malady that has affected him for quite some time, and pre-dates his arrival on the Island. That's why he required a "caretaker" as seen in "Presumed Dead."

Hey

Because thats the answer. The bold will make it easy for people who skim threads but want to know the answer without reading all the other chitchat

Did you get yelled at as a child?:biggrin: Because CAPS is yelling-----bold is a prominent point

I know you're feeling chuffed and all but your opinion is worth the same 2 cents here as everyone else's. No need to shout it from the rooftops or ram it down anyone's throats. It's offputting. M'kay? ;)

or did you want to distract from the fact that I SAID IT FIRST:rolleyes:

kidding of course, but I was kind of cowering away from the screen:biggrin:

I'm not sure about the "remembering" part either, but perhaps he was trying to "see" the cards psychically? Hmmm.


I thought that at first. On the second view I am thinking that he is working on some memory issues. He is probably one of those types that is really really smart but is lacking in some common sense. Charlotte is trying to prepare him for the worst case scenario. Having better short term memory will be better for him on the Island

or did you want to distract from the fact that I SAID IT FIRST:rolleyes:

kidding of course, but I was kind of cowering away from the screen:biggrin:


lol....had to put my sunglasses on to read it. :cool: j/k

I'm anxious to hear more about Dan.

Probably a mental/learning disability. Possibly memory loss?

Maybe he was testing himself to see if he had any special powers like ESP on the island?

How could he have a learning disability when is supposed to be a genius physicist?

I think it was an excercise for his memory so maybe he has a hard time retaining info.

maybe hes special like walt, just not finely tuned. he was demonstrating a pshycic test maybe? he does seem ... "sensative"

I think it was an excercise for his memory so maybe he has a hard time retaining info.

My first thought was that he's a genius, and many geniuses have mental illnesses as well. So my assumption is that whatever is wrong with him is directly related to his genius.

You don't get to be a physicist if you can't remember anything. And I doubt he's a savant. I believe he was quite normal but at some time in the past started to have some cognitive problems, cause for now a mystery.

Cardie

How could he have a learning disability when is supposed to be a genius physicist?

Easily. They're called autistic savants. Or he could have had a head injury at some point and has cognitive issues but otherwise is perfectly fine. There are many ways he could be impaired but still be "smart".

My first thought was that he's a genius, and many geniuses have mental illnesses as well. So my assumption is that whatever is wrong with him is directly related to his genius.

This is true but there are also a ton of brilliant, forgetful people!

However, I am now wondering if it was more of a guessing game, to see if he could "read" the card.

Maybe he was "practicing" ESP... I didn't get the impression that he has a memory problem. He's eccentric and geniuses are definitely different for sure. I would think if it was mental illness he'd be seeing kings of trapezoids or he'd think the Jack of Spades was out to get him or something.

Or ... maybe he's losing his ESP. Maybe the island isn't having an enhancing effect on him like it did Walt and maybe that's why Charlotte looked worried.

You don't get to be a physicist if you can't remember anything. And I doubt he's a savant. I believe he was quite normal but at some time in the past started to have some cognitive problems, cause for now a mystery.

Cardie

He could have been a physicist first but later had an accident or head injury that caused his impairment. He could be fine apart from the cognitive issue.

You don't get to be a physicist if you can't remember anything. And I doubt he's a savant. I believe he was quite normal but at some time in the past started to have some cognitive problems, cause for now a mystery.

Cardie

Whatever the case, it's enough of a problem that Charlotte's aware of it and has been for some time. They make a rather awkward (but interesting) pair. I'll be interested to see if the Island is either helping or hindering Dan's issues.

There's another thread discussing this. Maybe these should be merged.

I thought that at first. On the second view I am thinking that he is working on some memory issues. He is probably one of those types that is really really smart but is lacking in some common sense. Charlotte is trying to prepare him for the worst case scenario. Having better short term memory will be better for him on the Island.

Reading thru this thread, I now agree that they were working on memory rather than psychic ability. Dan is definitely a sympathetic character, and like the rest of you, I look forward to knowing more about him.

Charlotte, though--I still haven't decided. Yes, it's nice of her to help Daniel, but it seems to me she's done some lying since she arrived on the Island.

It looked like they were hoping it would help but it doesn't seem to be yet. Maybe this is part of the reason they both opted to stay behind.

This new lot of people (Daniel, Charlotte, Miles) so remind me of "The Haunting of Hill House" by Shirley Jackson.. People with various paranormal powers brought together..

It seems that something's interfering with his abilities... possibly the electromagnetism ...

There's another thread discussing this. Maybe these should be merged.

Merge if you must :cool:

I'm really interested in Daniel. He's definitely my favorite new character.

I'm really interested in Daniel. He's definitely my favorite new character.

Me too. He's sweet, dorky and practically the only guy on the island that isn't beating someone up or shoving a grenade in someone's face. The fact that he seems impaired just makes him all the more adorable. :rolleyes:

I don't trust Charlotte. But maybe she'll grown on me if she takes Daniel under her wing.

I don't understand, as Cardie pointed out, how a physicist ("of sorts") could have memory problems. There is something else going on. I agree that it's not a psychic thing.

The crying in the FB must relate. Could he have PTSD that is somehow linked to the crash? And maybe it has impaired his memory somehow?.....

Guys

Its is definately Memory Loss


The big font is kinda rude...

Anyhow, when they asked him what his name was, he paused to consider whether or not he should tell them his real name.

Well, no doubt whatever it is, it is related to memory. I ahve been telling for a while that this guy might have some degree of autism or Asperge Syndrome. Also it would be rpetty cool if he was a synesthete (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synesthesia).

Also, this whole scene with Charlotte reminded me of the Orientation Video when they talked about Parapsycological Reserch...

I don't trust Charlotte. But maybe she'll grown on me if she takes Daniel under her wing.

I don't understand, as Cardie pointed out, how a physicist ("of sorts") could have memory problems. There is something else going on. I agree that it's not a psychic thing.

The crying in the FB must relate. Could he have PTSD that is somehow linked to the crash? And maybe it has impaired his memory somehow?.....

There's more to Charlotte than meets the eye. My guess is Faraday's being manipulated as some sort of "sleeper agent" (see: The Manchurian Candidate references in other threads), doesn't quite remember all of the details, and Charlotte's in on it.

Me too. He's sweet, dorky and practically the only guy on the island that isn't beating someone up or shoving a grenade in someone's face. The fact that he seems impaired just makes him all the more adorable. :rolleyes:

Yeah, I adore Daniel. This problem worries me. Short term memory loss - could be early onset Alzheimer's, but Charlotte said two out of three was better than the last time, and Alzheimer's usually gets progressively worse. It's probably something else.

There's more to Charlotte than meets the eye. My guess is Faraday's being manipulated as some sort of "sleeper agent" (see: The Manchurian Candidate references in other threads), doesn't quite remember all of the details, and Charlotte's in on it.

Ooh now that's interesting. I'd like it if he got a cool story like that.

Yeah, I adore Daniel. This problem worries me. Short term memory loss - could be early onset Alzheimer's, but Charlotte said two out of three was better than the last time, and Alzheimer's usually gets progressively worse. It's probably something else.

Unless the island is healing him the same way it healed John.:drowsy:

Remember Mittelos = Lost Time. I think it was a way to introduce the fact that their crash resulted in a lost portion of time for their group, and now Daniel is trying to cope with the afteraffects of the lost time from how they got to the island.

The helicopter was the second clue. Who knows where or when it'll end up near the freighter, if it even does end up there.

Guys

Its is definately Memory Loss

Look at Confirmed Dead, when we first meet Faraday, and you will see him try and recall his name when asked by Jack and Kate

When he took such a long pause to recall his name I thought he had some type of concentration problem or that wasnt his real name. This Epi confirms he has Memory Loss

The real question is how does this relate to him crying when 815 crashed? He said he didnt know why--and my guess is he doesnt remember what he knows about it.


Hahahahaha! Yeah. Clearly it's memory loss. That totally jives with him being a genius physicist.

Thank you, wise one, for highlighting the definitive answer in such large letters, so those of us who aren't as smart as you can skip over the other tripe and easily find your brilliant musings.

Thank you, wise one, for highlighting the definitive answer in such large letters, so those of us who aren't as smart as you can skip over the other tripe and easily find your brilliant musings.

I'm sorry but...:rotflmao2:

Thanks for that.

Well, no doubt whatever it is, it is related to memory. I ahve been telling for a while that this guy might have some degree of autism or Asperge Syndrome. Also it would be rpetty cool if he was a synesthete (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synesthesia).

Also, this whole scene with Charlotte reminded me of the Orientation Video when they talked about Parapsycological Reserch...

I wouldn't be so sure it's related to memory... Aspberger's won't necessarily impair memory. Also, the dude is a brilliant physicist, and his memory has to function at a decent level to be as skilled of a scientist as he is.

It's hard to be sure either way at this point, but I really think they're testing for psychic abilities / ESP.

Parapsychology is one of DHARMA's stated areas of research interest, and so perhaps the Island heightens psychic/ESP abilities somehow. Guessing cards is a classic test in parapsychological research of psychic abilities, and some psychics will try and hone their skills by guessing cards as an exercise. If they know they Island can increase psychic abilities, maybe they're trying to test/see if the Island will improve theirs, and using the card-guessing as a benchmark/exercise. This is immediately what I thought of when I saw them playing this game, though I can see how it could be interpreted as a memory exercise, esp. if Dan has short-term memory loss. (But like I said before, anything other than short-term memory loss doesn't make sense for Dan, since he's a brilliant physicist.)

IMO Alzheimered, and he knows in his mind why he is crying about the news over 815, but he can't pull the memory forward.

I got the impression that he was trying to remember the three cards that Charlotte had put down for him, not that he was trying to "read" them not knowing what they were. When he only got 2 out of 3 right -- he seemed disappointed in himself, like it should be easy to remember only 3 cards.

....a drunkard pilot, a ghostbuster who uses a dustbuster, a physicist with impaired memory. seems like a great team to me!

I was actually thinking that Daniel had fallen from being a great physicist because of the memory loss. It does seem that Miles has "fallen" to the level of ghosbusting houses, and Faraday certainly has taken a dive in status.

A memory problem would explain a few things, like why he couldn't remember Naomi's "my sister" code, and Miles had to yell at him for it.

He may be some sort of "idiot savant", as in he's extremely intelligent with complicated things, but not very good at simple tasks like memory and social interaction.

It's hard to be sure either way at this point, but I really think they're testing for psychic abilities / ESP.

Parapsychology is one of DHARMA's stated areas of research interest, and so perhaps the Island heightens psychic/ESP abilities somehow. Guessing cards is a classic test in parapsychological research of psychic abilities, and some psychics will try and hone their skills by guessing cards as an exercise. If they know they Island can increase psychic abilities, maybe they're trying to test/see if the Island will improve theirs, and using the card-guessing as a benchmark/exercise. This is immediately what I thought of when I saw them playing this game...
Guessing cards is a classic test in parapsychological research of psychic abilities,
Yes, that's what I was thinking about! Thanks, you said it more concisely than I could. ...and here I was letting others talk me into thinking it was a memory thing. *sigh* Now I just can't decide...which, I suppose, is exactly what the writers hope for when they write these fascinating riddles!

He's autistic. Functionally autistic.
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he's autistic. seriously. and probably an autistic savant like Rainman.

upon first viewing I thought -for sure- they were doing a remote view/esp sort of experiment, I immediately thought of Fox Mulder doing the "point at the ufo" test. but this could verywell be a memory test, as if Charlotte mixed the cards around for a few moments before we see her ask Daniel to remember which is which.

Guessing cards is a classic test in parapsychological research of psychic abilities,
Yes, that's what I was thinking about! Thanks, you said it more concisely than I could. ...and here I was letting others talk me into thinking it was a memory thing. *sigh* Now I just can't decide...which, I suppose, is exactly what the writers hope for when they write these fascinating riddles!

Exactly. That's why this is such a brilliant show... it invites things like total strangers from around the globe having 6 pages worth of intelligent discussion within a couple hours of the episode airing... I freaking *love* LOST!!!

I think that ambiguity was intentional, and I think the memory loss ideas are definitely feasible, but i'm still leaning heavily in the psychic experiment direction, myself.

Hi, new person here:) Longtime Lostie though!

Wasn't one of the cards a 6 of spades? I think there was a picture frame in the little boy's room (Kate's house) with a six of spades in it.

Edited to add: See there is already a thread on this and it was a six of spades. Sorry.

when I saw the tree cards I thought of 3 card monte a con gamehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-card_Monte
but the Queen of Diamonds screamed Manchurian Candidate

albert einstein couldnt remember to tie his shoes.. when you have so many things that hold priority in your life, what significance does remembering to tie your shoes hold?

Tonight confirmed it

In Confirmed dead Daniel couldnt remember his own name for a few seconds when he first landed on the Island

This really struck me but I didnt say anything here because I thought people would think I was crazier than him:)

In Eggtown he couldnt remember 3 playing cards and that confirmed what I suspected

I also tied this in with why he was crying for 815. He doesnt remember what he knows about 815 but in some way he knew the plane was going to crash but either his memory was erased or he has an illness. He cried because deep in his subconcious he still knows--like how a repressed memory can cause emotions about an event the person doesnt even remember

Most likely, this illness is starting to improve since he got to the island because of the comment that he was doing better at the card game. Perhaps he was sent to the island not only because of his skill but because he has something very important to remember and the Island was the only cure to retrieve that information

....a drunkard pilot, a ghostbuster who uses a dustbuster, a physicist with impaired memory. seems like a great team to me!

I was actually thinking that Daniel had fallen from being a great physicist because of the memory loss. It does seem that Miles has "fallen" to the level of ghosbusting houses, and Faraday certainly has taken a dive in status.


And who would believe them if they spoke of what they saw when they got back to the states. :biggrin:

I think it was an excercise for his memory so maybe he has a hard time retaining info.

I was thinking that it had something to do with the island interfering with his brain...

:biggrin:

they do say that there is a very fine line between being a genious and being crazy....

I found that scene very odd but am not quite sure what I think...NathanialStar mentioned Autism-- and i could buy that, something like Aspergers Syndrome (which is basically being highly functioning autistic), but this is lost and I think that more likely it's got something to do with the Island and the lost time between them and the freighter.

i know a little something about neuropsyche testing, so i'll jump in here and point out that a 3 item recall after a 30 minute delay is a standard test of short term memory used to assess cognitive impairment. however, recalling only 2 of 3 items isn't necessarily a sign of impairment in the average person. it could, however, be considered an impairment in someone with faraday's background who i'm guessing has genius level IQ and should have superior short term recall.

i agree a few of the potential causes for cognitive impairment may be ruled out in faraday since he is a physicist, which seems to rule out a static condition that has been present since birth or childhood. it seems safe to assume that the onset of his impairment was more recent (i.e. after grad school), so i think the most likely causes are blunt head trauma, electrical shock trauma, a degenerative neurological condition, a viral infection, or a psyche disorder.

due to all the crying in the FB and naomi's comment about him being a "headcase" i'm leaning towards a pscyhe-related etiology for faraday's problem. interesting, of course, that he seems to expect improvement on the island.

He's autistic. Functionally autistic.
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he's autistic. seriously. and probably an autistic savant like Rainman.

I'm not proud of my ignorance, but I have to ask: does autism have anything to do with memory loss?

I don't think Charlotte was testing him for anything Island-related, or at least not for anything she would deem irrational because to me, Charlotte is the quintessential Woman Of Science. Of science fiction in this case, since she seems to be studying time travelling polar bears, but I don't think she'd believe in the Island's healing mojo the same way Locke does for instance.

Thanks for that, it was really informative. :smile:

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so i think the most likely causes are blunt head trauma, electrical shock trauma

For some reason... I have no problem seeing that with The Nutty Professor. He just seems so precious and accident-prone.

I don't think Charlotte was testing him for anything parapsychological because she's a Woman Of Science, I don't think she buys that stuff.

I'm not proud of my ignorance, but I have to ask: does autism have anything to do with memory loss?

I don't think Charlotte was testing him for anything Island-related, or at least not for anything she would deem irrational because to me, Charlotte is the quintessential Woman Of Science. Of science fiction in this case, since she seems to be studying time travelling polar bears, but I don't think she'd believe in the Island's healing mojo the same way Locke does for instance.

People with Autism have difficulty insocial interaction and communication, it's hard for them to really connect, they repeat behaviors, may not talk. As far as I know, nothing to do with memory-- I've been working with kids and adults with autism since I got out of college.

I agree with you that Charlotte is a Woman of Science-- but I also think she knows more about the island than we think, not necessarily healing properties but other stuff, my guess is that she knows more about what Dharma was studying....that comment she made in last weeks epi about having "work to do" makes me think she is there to find out specific information. But eh, who knows??:biggrin:

The real Michael Faraday suffered from mental illness that effected is memory.

In 1838 he suffered the first bout of a mental illness that gradually affected his memory. By the late 1850s his memory was so poor that he could only perform short experiments and was unable to argue his theories effectively. He gave up lecturing in 1861 and retired in 1865 to live in a house provided by the Queen. He died peacefully in 1867.
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The real Michael Faraday suffered from mental illness that effected is memory.

In 1838 he suffered the first bout of a mental illness that gradually affected his memory. By the late 1850s his memory was so poor that he could only perform short experiments and was unable to argue his theories effectively. He gave up lecturing in 1861 and retired in 1865 to live in a house provided by the Queen. He died peacefully in 1867.
Read more here
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Oh wow. Thanks for the research. I guess they really are basing Daniel after the real physicist Faraday.

Didn't Dan tell Jack or someone that there was an electrical storm and somehow he ended up falling out of the helicopter? Maybe that would exlpain the short term memory loss?

Like Desmond's flash's of future events, Daniels attempting to remember the cards are evidence that there are multiple time travellers in the story. Many actually. After being sent back in time, the traveller retains only random memories, as Desmond has shown. His ability to forsee the future is not a psychic ability. He is remembering events he has lived through before in a time loop.
I believe as Miss Hawkins showed, there are forces at work, who have agents travelling through time, to help course correct the damage other players have done. We now know time flows differently on the Island.
the creators of the show have confirmed time travel is a key element of the story.
Daniels payload experiment showed the time differences, just as important as that is the fact that this experiment would be Daniels 1st point of study on the Island. He knew about the difference & this experiment confirmed it. Who else shares that information with Daniel.
However the most important event of this season has not been discussed anywhere I've seen, but looks to be the main story next week.

DESMOND GETS OFF THE ISLAND!!!

THIS IS WHAT WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN!!

Desmond changes events when he saves Charlie, then allows him to sacrifice himself, because he knew this was a way for him to get off the Island & back to Penny.

I tink S4E5 will give a lot of answers to the time travel mysteries.

I got the feeling in last weeks episode that Sayid and Desmond both were time travelers. I felt like Sayid had been in the situation before and was there to correct something that had gone wrong the first time... like maybe his arrangement with Locke? He seemed like he knew he was leaving the island and was just there on a mission. I'm probably way off though. :confused:

I really feel for Dan. Right now he's the only character I'm interested in. I wonder what's wrong with him.

Ohhh yes. (Well, I'm invested in other characters, but right now, I want to know what's going on with Daniel.)

I wouldn't be so sure it's related to memory... Aspberger's won't necessarily impair memory. Also, the dude is a brilliant physicist, and his memory has to function at a decent level to be as skilled of a scientist as he is.

*shrug* Having Asperger's doesn't really impair my memory to a point like that. Sure, I forget stuff all the time, but my parents tell me it's normal.

Maybe Daniel was injured in Hurley's balcony accident.:eek2:

The real Michael Faraday suffered from mental illness that effected is memory.

In 1838 he suffered the first bout of a mental illness that gradually affected his memory. By the late 1850s his memory was so poor that he could only perform short experiments and was unable to argue his theories effectively. He gave up lecturing in 1861 and retired in 1865 to live in a house provided by the Queen. He died peacefully in 1867.
Read more here
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Good stuff. Thanks for doing the research.

Like some others, I did not immediately jump to 'memory loss' as a solution. His actions make him seem like he is mentally struggling wtih things, yes, but I drew a parallel to Desmond's premonitions. I believe that Daniel may be having premonitions as well.

Why does he suddenly get up at the helicopter to set up an experiment? Because he suddenly has a premonition of the result. But what if the future is no longer coming true exactly as he saw it?

It's possible that his "this is far from weird" response is because reality is starting to diverge from his premonitions. It struck me as odd that he was more surprised about the 31 minute time difference than he was that the rocket was late at all. What if he originally predicted a late rocket, but not by 31 minutes. He had a premonition about the three cards, but only 2 of them come true.

FWIW, in the previews for next week you clearly see desmond grab dan, ask dan if desmond is gonna die, and throw dan into a chalkboard.

my guess is that this suggests during the next episode des will be time traveling and will visit daniel at some point in daniel's past when dan is still a professor. at this time he will tell dan about the plane crash and the island, and will try to ask Dan if failing to stick to the bearing is going to kill him.

who knows if this is indeed the event that leads to Dan's fall from physics greatness, his memory loss, or whatever, but it certainly would help to explain why dan is crying while watching the 815 wreckage footage: he already knew about it, he knows its a lie, he just doesnt remember.

i could be way off though...

I think Daniel does have some progressive degenerative mental illness, or has suffered from a head injury. I think that before this downfall, he was probably some famous genius physicist, and since the people behind the freighties trip probably had an idea about the island's healing properties, that's why he was chosen. They knew that if fully healed he would be smarter than anyone else they could send, plus prove that the island does heal everything. This promise was probably how they lured him onto the team.

Maybe he's not suffering from memory loss so much as memory that's delayed. Didn't they say something about the fact that it had been 30 minutes since they'd begun the game? I'm just comparing that to Dan's experiment from last week and wondering if he and Charlotte are realizing that the time difference on the payload may point to a time delay in Dan's usually quick memory. Perhaps something happened to Dan on the way into the island that we've not been shown yet. Just a thought. He's like a youtube video that keeps stopping because it's not buffering at a timely rate. :)

I reckon that Daniel has some kind of memory disorder. Maybe we scene we saw is an example of the 'healing power' previously demonstrated by the Island.

I also reckon that he gets off the Island eventually and the flashback we saw in 'Confirmed Dead' was in fact a flashforward to after he gets off the Island again.

(see http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=89762 )


Bonus for the bad guys: No need to worry about keeping him quiet afterwards - he'll just forget it all)

I think it is support for the time loop theory...Daniel may have had seen those cards before in earlier loop and they are testing his ability to recall previous loops. This would also explain his subconscience desire to cry when finding out about the plane, due to some tragic event that happens somewhere down the line on these loops. If they can get him to the point where he can remember the previous loops, perhaps then they can prevent the tragic event.

Just a theory.....

I forget exactly what Charlotte says before he started guessing, but it definitly lead you to believe that she had already shown him the cards, and now he was trying to remember what they were. I don't think it was Island related. 'Course, who knows?

My husband just brought up a couple of interesting points. First of all, as previously posted, Daniel had a "caregiver". This usually means that someone is unable to care for themselves doesnt it?? So there it deffintely something wrong with him prior to the island. Maybe he is one of the savants at Santa Rosa that had been used to research the mysterious numbers, but in heiroglyphic form...

The one thing my husband said that really made me think is... What if Daniel came to the island to heal? What if he has not been able to remember any cards and now that he is on the island he is able to remember two out of three. How many will he be able to remember after staying on the island longer. Daniel is the reason Charlotte whats to stay on the island, she is interested in the healing. Maybe at one time he was normal, like Hugo, and something happened, maybe and accident where he almost died...OMG It just made me think of Charlotte Malkin. Wait, what if Charlotte Lewis is actually Charlotte Malkin???? I think this question may deserve a post of its own......

How could he have a learning disability when is supposed to be a genius physicist?


lmao
My thoughts exactly.
Maybe a mental illness, but I think he learns just fine ; ).

Daniel is a savant from the Vik Institute (The lost Experience)

"
Dr. Mittelwerk:
It is with profound anger that I submit this complaint. I understand that The Hanso Foundation prides itself on experimentation and innovation -- but what is going on in my own hospital has left me extremely confused about my mission.
I was recruited to the directorship of the Vik Institute with a promise that I would be given the cutting edge of technology (http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Dr._Armand_Zander#) for the benefit of my patients. Instead, I find myself prisoner in a hall of mirrors.
Day in and day out, new doctors not in my staff enter and exit the hospital. Last night, twenty of my autistic savant patients were administered secret proprietary memory tests (http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Dr._Armand_Zander#) with my consult or consent by doctors whom I have never seen before -- and then there is, of course, the third sub-basement.
Never in my thirty years of treating the mentally ill have I seen the like. A secret ward containing patients whose illness is unknown to the hospital's director? It is, I regret to say, absurd and offensive.
I am responsible for the lives of hundreds of patients, but I cannot, in good conscience, take that responsibility if I am hamstrung by a secret program of experimentation taking place under my own nose.
The bottom line is, I expect a full accounting of the activities taking place in my hospital. If you are unable, or unwilling to comply, I may just be forced to tender resignation.
Regretfully yours,
Armand Zander
"

from http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Vik_Institute

The memory test have something to do with solving the Valenzettie Equation.

Moreover, The numbers resulting from the equation are suppose to be in represented in Egyptian hieroglyphs, hence why Charlotte is on the island.

lmao
My thoughts exactly.
Maybe a mental illness, but I think he learns just fine ; ).

Actually there's quite a few learning disabled people who've been "geniuses." Autism can be an example by times. I can't think of any names off the top of my head, but think Rainman since we got nothing. There was something going on right in that guy's head.

It seemed like he was clearly frustrated with his inability to remember the three cards. I think it's a simple short-term "working" memory test, which explains why he needs a caretaker. Especially for cooking. Which makes me think that the reason he was upset without knowing why indicates that he has long term memory problems as well. There was a reason that the 815 crash is emotional for him but he doesn't remember what it is. It's like the (awesome) movie "Memento", which is likewise about a guy who can't retain short-term memory.

Actually there's quite a few learning disabled people who've been "geniuses." Autism can be an example by times. I can't think of any names off the top of my head, but think Rainman since we got nothing. There was something going on right in that guy's head.

True.
But im only refering to Daniel.
From what I have seen, I dont think he has any kind of learning disability.
I'd bet the farm on a mental illness though.
Or, its just as simple as a guy who bumped his head one day, and now he has extremely short termed mem.
ex: someone with extreme OCD, seem's disabled and sick from a distance, but functions normally besides that.

True.
But im only refering to Daniel.
From what I have seen, I dont think he has any kind of learning disability.
I'd bet the farm on a mental illness though.
Or, its just as simple as a guy who bumped his head one day, and now he has extremely short termed mem.
ex: someone with extreme OCD, seem's disabled and sick from a distance, but functions normally besides that.

Oh okay. Well I wouldnt say he's exhibited any real signs of OCD, but I wouldnt doubt he's got some emotional instability. I mean look at him in Confirmed Dead. What a wreck. Looking forward to knowing what caused that reaction in Daniel.

Oh okay. Well I wouldnt say he's exhibited any real signs of OCD, but I wouldnt doubt he's got some emotional instability. I mean look at him in Confirmed Dead. What a wreck. Looking forward to knowing what caused that reaction in Daniel.

I didnt mean that Daniel has OCD, that was just an example. Im also glad that you brought up confirmed dead. Yes, he was a wreck, and I was actually annoyed by Daniel's (not the actor) shakyness (if thats even a word., lol). I even made a thread about it, I expected a lot more from him.
But now, I love the Daniel character. He's great, his dorkyness, smarts, and un-stableness is sorta kool in a geeky way. Like so many others on here, I want more Daniel, more experiments, and more thoughts from him.




"Driveshaft, more like Suckshaft"

Based on Charlotte's reactions during the card scene, I would say she knew what the cards were. Furthermore, she tried to console Daniel when he was frustrated with the results. She was testing Daniel's memory, perhaps in an attempt to see if the island's special healing properties had worked to improve Daniel's memory. If this is so, then it probably isn't a life-long disorder, as we've seen the island heal only diseases\injuries\miscellaneous dysfunctions.

Does Daniel have a poor memory or is he learning a new trick. There is no evidence he has seen the cards prior to them being turned over. Could it be that he is practicing his "Miles like" mind-reading abilities.

Another theory could be he was trying to recover some kind of ability he had previously./

Previously posted on "Daniel and Charlotte's "Card Game"

http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=89530&page=7

My husband just brought up a couple of interesting points. First of all, as previously posted, Daniel had a "caregiver". This usually means that someone is unable to care for themselves doesnt it?? So there it deffintely something wrong with him prior to the island. Maybe he is one of the savants at Santa Rosa that had been used to research the mysterious numbers, but in heiroglyphic form...

The one thing my husband said that really made me think is... What if Daniel came to the island to heal? What if he has not been able to remember any cards and now that he is on the island he is able to remember two out of three. How many will he be able to remember after staying on the island longer. Daniel is the reason Charlotte whats to stay on the island, she is interested in the healing. Maybe at one time he was normal, like Hugo, and something happened, maybe and accident where he almost died...OMG It just made me think of Charlotte Malkin. Wait, what if Charlotte Lewis is actually Charlotte Malkin???? I think this question may deserve a post of its own...... I will start one in the theories....

Does Daniel have a poor memory or is he learning a new trick. There is no evidence he has seen the cards prior to them being turned over. Could it be that he is practicing his "Miles like" mind-reading abilities.


This actually came up in another thread. And the theory I now like is that he is aware of time-looping (as is Charlotte) and they have played this game previous and now Daniel is trying to "remember back to that time".

I think he's trying to tap into his psychic powers... but the fact that there is a time loop is a little interesting.

I thought he was practicing his psychic abilities. :)

I think he has some kinda of memory illness, maybe a traumatic experience idk. Obviously he's still a genius, so that makes it unique. I think the card experiment was a test of the islands healing abilities, and obviously.. its helping.




"Driveshaft, more like Suckshaft"

Does Daniel have a poor memory or is he learning a new trick. There is no evidence he has seen the cards prior to them being turned over. Could it be that he is practicing his "Miles like" mind-reading abilities.

She's looking at her watch, and then she says, "Time. Okay, tell me. What do you remember." She's testing his short-term memory.

I was and still am very curious about this whole scene (or at least this part of that scene - I'm interested in the phone call, too) Anyway, I give you that the cards they picked have some sort of deeper meaning, but I wasn't sure what else was going on. I'm glad other people have some ideas, to help me out. My initial thought was that he was trying to 'see' the cards with his mind. I didn't hear Charlotte say 'ok, time'. So, maybe it was short-term memory. The whole thing means something, though.

On another note, do you think the Dharma cards were Charlotte's that she brought with her, or do you think they belonged to the Losties, from the hatch or whatever?

I'm not sure I buy the whole "time loop" thing. I think they were testing his short term memory.

Just curious...when was it revealed the woman in Daniel's flashback was a caregiver?

In the enhanced episode last week.

Wow...I just assumed that he was practicing his short term memory, but maybe he was practicing mind reading.

I thought about short-term memory issues because she was timing him, but I think we would have noticed that before now. Wouldn't he be asking people, "do I know you" over and over again.

he didnt seem to be thinking too hard and he seemed to guess or he was meant to know them.

he always seems to be looking around an awful lot, as if to say ive been here before or i should remember this

Maybe he suffers from Lostwritersiest. You know the the disease that make you forget the story you have been writing for the last 3 years.

Maybe he suffers from Lostwritersiest. You know the the disease that make you forget the story you have been writing for the last 3 years.

Wrong audience. Troll somewhere else. :kiss:

Wrong audience. Troll somewhere else. :kiss:
Hey it was meant to be joke. Did not mean to offend.

She's looking at her watch, and then she says, "Time. Okay, tell me. What do you remember." She's testing his short-term memory.

Or she's saying "Time" as if this is the time it happened before... "What do you remember?" I could be wrong, but I'm so not convinced it's a short-term memory problem.

Albeit, he didn't seem to remember what the code was re: "Naomi's sister". But I wrote that off to his quirky behavior and lack of military skills.

Yeah, I may totally be wrong, but I find the time-loop memory thing so much more interesting.

Hey it was meant to be joke. Did not mean to offend.


Some people dont how to and/or cant take a joke my friend.
Thats life.








"Driveshaft, more like Suckshaft"

Some people dont how to and/or cant take a joke my friend.
Thats life.

That offends me! :mad:

JK - Sometimes it's hard to tell in virtual-life. Heck, sometimes it's hard to tell in real-life, for that matter!

That offends me! :mad:

JK - Sometimes it's hard to tell in virtual-life. Heck, sometimes it's hard to tell in real-life, for that matter!


lmao
My apologies momster.

Put together his crying when the plane crashed and not knowing why, his pause before he gave his name to Jack, not knowing the Naomi code, his inability to pick the last card based on time leads me to think it is a short-term memory issue but, being on the Island will help it get better as Charlotte stated.

Did anyone notice at the end of next week's promo, it looks like Faraday with long hair is fighting Desmond? Or could it be another time of Faraday?

Yes, I did it ...my first post:grin:

Put together his crying when the plane crashed and not knowing why, his pause before he gave his name to Jack, not knowing the Naomi code, his inability to pick the last card based on time leads me to think it is a short-term memory issue but, being on the Island will help it get better as Charlotte stated.

Did anyone notice at the end of next week's promo, it looks like Faraday with long hair is fighting Desmond? Or could it be another time of Faraday?

Yes, I did it ...my first post:grin:

Welcome, WhiteRabbit15!

being on the Island will help it get better as Charlotte stated.

Did anyone notice at the end of next week's promo, it looks like Faraday with long hair is fighting Desmond? Or could it be another time of Faraday?

Yes, I did it ...my first post:grin:

Welcome to the Fuselage, WR15. :biggrin:

It would be great to see if the island will help Dan out with his "problem(s)". I find him very endearing just the way he is, though.

Yes, the next ep looks great. Saw the promo and now there are 2 new sneak peeks at abc.com that are truly awesome.

She's looking at her watch, and then she says, "Time. Okay, tell me. What do you remember." She's testing his short-term memory.

That is precisely how I read the situation.
Perhaps they tested the time theory thingy.
now on to another alleged property of the island.
Healing and it's effect on the disabled.
Maybe he is testing his short term memory,
which off the island is a big problem with him.

I got the feeling in last weeks episode that Sayid and Desmond both were time travelers. I felt like Sayid had been in the situation before and was there to correct something that had gone wrong the first time... like maybe his arrangement with Locke? He seemed like he knew he was leaving the island and was just there on a mission. I'm probably way off though. :confused:

Interesting!!! There were definitely some peculiar expressions on Sayid's face during TE that gave me reason to pause and think twice about... maybe you're on to somehting here!

Maybe Daniel was injured in Hurley's balcony accident.:eek2:

Hahahaha... Nice!:biggrin:

Regarding the psychic testing vs. memory loss testing discussion that was occuring on this thread before, I just went back and rewatched the episode, and the exact quote that Charotte begins that scene with is, "Ok, time. Tell me what you remember." Guess that settles it! =)
100%
*shrug* Having Asperger's doesn't really impair my memory to a point like that. Sure, I forget stuff all the time, but my parents tell me it's normal.

I forget stuff all the time, too. My favorite is like when I'll be looking for my phone or my keys... and look all over for them... only to discover a few minutes later that they were in my hand the whole time. So, yep, it's normal... Either that, or, haha, maybe I'm *not* normal!:biggrin:

(Normal doesn't exist anyways....)

I am a woman and can never remember my own anniversary, and most of the time have to ask my husband how old I am...LOL. I know, I feel rather shameful admitting it. I take medicine for a pituitary disorder that causes some memory loss. BUT.... I am still able to be a stay at home mom. Take care of my home, my husband and my children. I do not need a caretaker just because my memory is crappy. I have a franklin planner that I have to make sure is kept up.

So there is obviously something wrong with Daniel. Why else would it be explained that it is NOT his wife, but a caretaker.....

Well, I hope you guys aren't "normal." I've found over the years that the so-called "normal" people are the most eff'd up I've met. "Normal" scares me . . . LOL

As for Daniel, yeah, I'd have to agree with the majority that it seems like something is wrong with him:

1- He did have a caretaker
2- He was crying at the discovery of flight 815 and didn't know why
3- He couldn't remember 3 cards after 30 minutes = something I'd say is pretty easy

Thus far my impressions are that he knows more about what is going on with the island but HAS forgotten for some reason. Flight 815 was a trigger, but he didn't know why. Yet when he gets to the island he knows he has to experiment. Its almost as though he's experimenting to remember NOT to learn (if that makes any sense at all.)

Perhaps it was a test for latent psychic abilities. Maybe that's why the team was chosen, to some degree they each have minor psychic powers and that was an excercise to test them. On another level it was another sign that the freighties are hiding something from the losties.

Interesting that the Queen of Diamonds was included The Manchurian Candidate.

That's EXACTLY what I was thinking when I saw the Queen of Diamonds. I wouldn't put it past the writers to have a character like that sent to the Island.

Sidebar: Angela Landsbury was great in that movie.

Dan crying = he forgot to record moomin on digibox.

Dan remembering cards = he has memory problem, and needs a caretaker. They are trying if he has healed on the island.

Dan is an interesting new character.

Hmmm, interesting, especially if you are correct about it being a "memory" game they were playing, I'll have to re-watch because I actually thought they were playing a "psychic" game - guess which cards are on the table, not remember which ones or which order....so intriguing! :)

Perhaps it was a test for latent psychic abilities. Maybe that's why the team was chosen, to some degree they each have minor psychic powers and that was an excercise to test them. On another level it was another sign that the freighties are hiding something from the losties.

Charlotte doesn't strike me as the type that would give the time of day to any ESP mumbojumbo so I doubt she was testing him for anything out of the ordinary. My vote goes to memory loss.

Next week will give us another clue, according to spoiler previews.

I think it's a memory test, since Charlotte states at the beginning 'it's time' or something like that. The island is somehow making it difficult for people to concentrate.

I think it's a memory test, since Charlotte states at the beginning 'it's time' or something like that. The island is somehow making it difficult for people to concentrate.

She says it's time and then she asks him "what do you remember?"

That's EXACTLY what I was thinking when I saw the Queen of Diamonds. I wouldn't put it past the writers to have a character like that sent to the Island.

Sidebar: Angela Landsbury was great in that movie.


I really like this idea.... I recently came across a post in the General Theories forum that suggested that the "flashbacks" we saw in episode 4.2 of Daniel crying while watching the TV reports of Flight 815 were actually "flashforwards". This could turn out to be a very interesting point... Let me try and explain...

In this past episode, we see Dan and Charlotte playing a card game that apparently is trying to test Daniel's memory. I'm betting that he suffers from some sort of memory loss or other affliction, and that his crying in front of the TV was actually *post-Island-trip* and that the reports about the wreckage triggered an emotional response, but he can't remember why.

It makes him the perfect "Manchurian Candidate" type of person for Abaddon and Company to employ: They have a brilliant physicist that suffers from some sort of memory affliction that causes him to be labeled as "eccentric" or a "head case" by the general public even though he is a genius. Knowing the special properties of the Island, they send Daniel there to collect crucial information and perform important experiments knowing that the Island will "cure" him after being within its "sphere of influence" for a time. He can then relay the results of these experiements and critical data back to the Freighter for processing, and when the time comes to extract him; *poof* goes his memory and he can't remember any specifics of his time there and therefore can't betray Abaddon and Company by leaking details of his exploits while on the Island....

Upon returning to the real world (and losing the memories of his Island trip), Abaddon and Company feed him a BS story that somehow convinces him of the severity of his illness and that he needs a full-time caretaker. This "caretaker" is actually another employee of Abaddon and Company that is assigned to watch over Daniel to ensure that if he does somehow start to regain his memory, he is eliminated/contained. Hell, it could be that Daniel even resides at this "upgraded resort" that Abaddon offered to transfer Hurley to. That would even further ensure that they had control of the situation in the event he started recovering his memory. Daniel is essentially "Lost". :)

I really like this idea.... I recently came across a post in the General Theories forum that suggested that the "flashbacks" we saw in episode 4.2 of Daniel crying while watching the TV reports of Flight 815 were actually "flashforwards". This could turn out to be a very interesting point... Let me try and explain...

In this past episode, we see Dan and Charlotte playing a card game that apparently is trying to test Daniel's memory. I'm betting that he suffers from some sort of memory loss or other affliction, and that his crying in front of the TV was actually *post-Island-trip* and that the reports about the wreckage triggered an emotional response, but he can't remember why.

It makes him the perfect "Manchurian Candidate" type of person for Abaddon and Company to employ: They have a brilliant physicist that suffers from some sort of memory affliction that causes him to be labeled as "eccentric" or a "head case" by the general public even though he is a genius. Knowing the special properties of the Island, they send Daniel there to collect crucial information and perform important experiments knowing that the Island will "cure" him after being within its "sphere of influence" for a time. He can then relay the results of these experiements and critical data back to the Freighter for processing, and when the time comes to extract him; *poof* goes his memory and he can't remember any specifics of his time there and therefore can't betray Abaddon and Company by leaking details of his exploits while on the Island....

Upon returning to the real world (and losing the memories of his Island trip), Abaddon and Company feed him a BS story that somehow convinces him of the severity of his illness and that he needs a full-time caretaker. This "caretaker" is actually another employee of Abaddon and Company that is assigned to watch over Daniel to ensure that if he does somehow start to regain his memory, he is eliminated/contained. Hell, it could be that Daniel even resides at this "upgraded resort" that Abaddon offered to transfer Hurley to. That would even further ensure that they had control of the situation in the event he started recovering his memory. Daniel is essentially "Lost". :)

I like this theory, is it possible Charlotte is his "caretaker"? It will be interesting to find out how she fits into the story.

I really like this idea.... I recently came across a post in the General Theories forum that suggested that the "flashbacks" we saw in episode 4.2 of Daniel crying while watching the TV reports of Flight 815 were actually "flashforwards". This could turn out to be a very interesting point... Let me try and explain...

I ...
Upon returning to the real world (and losing the memories of his Island trip)... it could be that Daniel even resides at this "upgraded resort" that Abaddon offered to transfer Hurley to. That would even further ensure that they had control of the situation in the event he started recovering his memory. Daniel is essentially "Lost". :)

A fascinating theory! Even if it's not what the Lost writers had in mind, it'd be a great plot to explore. I hope we get to know Daniel much better, cuz he's a great character. I love the subtle mysteries of him and the things he does. Just why did they choose him? That's what I'm curious about.


[Note to self: I've got to make time to watch The Manchurian Candidate!]

"I've got to make time to watch The Manchurian Candidate!"

Make sure you watch the original. It's playing May 28th on TCM. The Manchurian Candidate! (http://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/title.jsp?stid=19293)

The time jumping is causing Dniel to slow lose his present moment memory