I assumed that by the end of the episode, I would be clear on why the episode was titled "Eggtown". Thoughts?

I thought it was interesting that Locke was bringing Ben the "last two eggs". Why?

Honestly, I don't really get it. I think it's a stupid name. But I think it has to do with the fact that Kate is positive she's not pregnant. I think she got her tubes tied after her pregnancy scare pre-island.

The "town" part comes from the fact that they are living in Otherville?... I dunno.

I was about to ask the same thing. I have NO idea! And I really want to know.

I can't think of anything but Locke's eggs either.

I was thinking the same thing. I was telling people I was looking forward to Eggtown all day, and those who don't watch the show had no idea what i was talking about. I thought I'd be able to explain it lol

I'm chalking it up to a fertility issue of some sort . . .

I think it has to do with the eggs at the beginning, Locke .. Idk *shrug*

If teh writers made kate be infertile or have a surgery just to appease certain shipper groups I'd be pretty disappointed. Seems like kate wouldn't have that kind of money.

Please help me with this.

I'm guessing that besides the two eggs that Locke brings to Ben, it is an allusion to fertility. I think we are supposed to think all along that Sawyer and Kate create the son that Kate makes reference to. So the focus is on whether Kate is pregnant, getting Kate pregant, Claire with her baby, and a side visit with Sun talking about raising her baby in Korea. Lots of focus on babies.

Locke brought the "last two eggs". I just can't get that out of my head.

Didn't Sawyer also call Aaron something about "egg head" or something with "egg" in it?

Well for a woman with little $ she has one heck of a house. ( Can I be that poor?)
:rolleyes:
Her infertility could be cured on the island like Rose, Locke , and Sun's health issues. She could have lied to James to see where he stood if she were Preg. Since he was happy she wasn't pregnant Kate was ticked off enough and decided to lie.

I think it has something to do with their living style now. Instead of being on the beach eating "boar and bananas," they are living in houses where they can have eggs for breakfast (almost like living at home).

Lock is super frustrated that Ben is keeping him out of the loop. John takes Ben the last two eggs and Ben plays mind games with Lock again. When Locke leaves the room where Ben is, he has the tray of Eggs. Locke as he walks down the hall is PO'd and he slams the tray of eggs against the wall. Thus Eggtown.

I was wondering about this too. Odd name for an episode.

Locke brought the "last two eggs". I just can't get that out of my head.

Then he killed the chicken... LOL

I wonder if EggTown is a reference to The Great Gatsby where the "new" rich lived in West Egg and the "old" money lived in East Egg. Maybe Locke's group is West Egg and Jack's is East Egg? Probably not, but it was the first thing that came to mind when I heard the title of this episode.

When I first saw the title, I assumed it would be Juliet-centric. I'm stumped.

Didn't Sawyer also call Aaron something about "egg head" or something with "egg" in it?

I think that was "turnip head", right?

Lock is super frustrated that Ben is keeping him out of the loop. John takes Ben the last two eggs and Ben plays mind games with Lock again. When Locke leaves the room where Ben is, he has the tray of Eggs. Locke as he walks down the hall is PO'd and he slams the tray of eggs against the wall. Thus Eggtown.

Ben cracked Locke like an egg.

I think that was "turnip head", right?

Indeed.

Yeah, I'm going with an offbeat reference to fertility, but I do like that Great Gatsby reference!! Nice one!

Of course, it could just be a play on the name of one of the episode's writers. ;)

Kate's money is probably a settlement from Oceanic Airways.

Eggtown.... Maybe there were a lot of easter eggs there? hints and stuff to pick
up on? I'll have to watch it again.

I wonder if EggTown is a reference to The Great Gatsby where the "new" rich lived in West Egg and the "old" money lived in East Egg. Maybe Locke's group is West Egg and Jack's is East Egg? Probably not, but it was the first thing that came to mind when I heard the title of this episode.

That's a great analysis. I just read Great Gatsby recently and I totally see your point, but I also think it had to do with the eggs served and Kate's fertility and the "Aaron" surprise at the end.

Then he killed the chicken... LOL

that perplexed me, cause well.....ummmmm, i'm no farmer,
but if you just used the last two eggs, why would you kill the chicken?
wouldn't you need all the chickens you could get for more eggs?
:34853_huh:

Unlikely, but...maybe Kate's always known she's infertile, but became pregnant with Sawyer's baby anyway, and named him Aaron as an homage after something tragic happened with Claire and Aaron on the island (or they were left behind)...and that's why Jack can't deal with the baby (it's Sawyer's/it reminds him of the Faustian bargain).
Just overthinking aloud.

This should clear some things up for your questions. (found on lostpedia)

"Egg-town is a pejorative term that refers to the days of bartering. A traveling salesman would have to barter his candy or tobacco or shoelaces for different commodities. A poor exchange would be for eggs, a relatively common item that is also highly perishable. Nobody wants to trade for eggs from a traveling salesman because they have their own, so the salesman who accepted an egg in exchange was forced to accept a bad deal. Salesmen would use the term like "If I were you I would stay away from Bogart. That's an egg-town." Of course, the lack of trust among salesman was also high, and it was likely that one salesman would lie to another about the quality of a town's customers to keep them for himself. Invariably, the second salesman ventures into to Bogart only to find it is truly an egg-town. He is either persuaded to not visit a town that has good customers or is tricked into visiting a town that can only offer eggs. The term "egg-town" represents a deal with undesirable outcomes in either case."

This may have to do with all the deals that are being made (Ben/Miles). Or maybe it deals with the deal with the O6 was not a good deal on either sides?

Maybe Locke telling Ben those were the last eggs, and then he wasted them, was some sort of allusion to the fact that Kate wasted HER last eggs? I don't know, I am sort of pulling at straws, but there has to be some significance to him mentioned that those were the last eggs. Also he smelled them, I thought that was odd.

I assumed that by the end of the episode, I would be clear on why the episode was titled "Eggtown". Thoughts?

Gonna watch again, maybe there are lots of Easter Eggs we missed?!

There was a famous - or infamous - experiment (http://noosphere.princeton.edu/eggname.html) run by the former Princeton Engineering Anomalies Research (PEAR (http://www.princeton.edu/%7Epear/)) group.

The experiment dealt with how public events that drew the attention of massive numbers of people - the collective consciousness, so to speak - seemed to also influence electrical activity and computers. So it was about human-machine interaction..

The public event chosen for the experiment was the announcement of the verdict of the O.J. Simpson trial. The experiment was nicknamed EGG, which stood for electrogaiagram, the instrument that measured the electronic acivity. Kate's very public trial and the robots on Aaron's bedroom wall make me think this was part of the reason the name was chosen.

This experiment is discussed extensively in Lynne McTaggart's books The Intention Experiment (http://www.theintentionexperiment.com/) and The Field (http://www.livingthefield.com/), which some of us have posted about before. They're pseudo-science based, and anyone who's read them and watched Lost think they're practically textbooks for the show. I've posted before about how they tell the so-called real life story of a fried chicken chain (a la Mr. Cluck) magnate, Ed Mitchell the *Apollo* astronaut, "two snowmen" references, and numerous other things we've seen on Lost. Reading them is like watching the show, the parallels are spooky.

Like all Lost episodes, the egg theme is multi-layered, includes pregnancy issues, Locke's cooking and throwing the eggs against the wall, easter eggs, etc...

It was Charlie that called Aaron "Turniphead".

Well for a woman with little $ she has one heck of a house. ( Can I be that poor?)
:rolleyes:


O6 settlement $ for sure.
I think it has something to do with their living style now. Instead of being on the beach eating "boar and bananas," they are living in houses where they can have eggs for breakfast (almost like living at home).

Yeah the "town" part is like "ville" in Otherville.

Then he killed the chicken... LOL

Yeah, major fertility ref., I guess.... ?

I wonder if EggTown is a reference to The Great Gatsby where the "new" rich lived in West Egg and the "old" money lived in East Egg. Maybe Locke's group is West Egg and Jack's is East Egg? Probably not, but it was the first thing that came to mind when I heard the title of this episode.

That's a great reference.

Unlikely, but...maybe Kate's always known she's infertile, but became pregnant with Sawyer's baby anyway, and named him Aaron as an homage after something tragic happened with Claire and Aaron on the island (or they were left behind)...and that's why Jack can't deal with the baby (it's Sawyer's/it reminds him of the Faustian bargain).
Just overthinking aloud.

No, this is possible, if it's not THE Aaron we know.

This should clear some things up for your questions. (found on lostpedia)

"Egg-town is a pejorative term that refers to the days of bartering. A traveling salesman would have to barter his candy or tobacco or shoelaces for different commodities. A poor exchange would be for eggs, a relatively common item that is also highly perishable. Nobody wants to trade for eggs from a traveling salesman because they have their own, so the salesman who accepted an egg in exchange was forced to accept a bad deal. Salesmen would use the term like "If I were you I would stay away from Bogart. That's an egg-town." Of course, the lack of trust among salesman was also high, and it was likely that one salesman would lie to another about the quality of a town's customers to keep them for himself. Invariably, the second salesman ventures into to Bogart only to find it is truly an egg-town. He is either persuaded to not visit a town that has good customers or is tricked into visiting a town that can only offer eggs. The term "egg-town" represents a deal with undesirable outcomes in either case."

This may have to do with all the deals that are being made (Ben/Miles). Or maybe it deals with the deal with the O6 was not a good deal on either sides?

Woah. Huh. I had no idea! Thanks for sharing!!

There was a famous - or infamous - experiment (http://noosphere.princeton.edu/eggname.html) run by the former Princeton Engineering Anomalies Research (PEAR (http://www.princeton.edu/%7Epear/)) group.

The experiment dealt with how public events that drew the attention of massive numbers of people - the collective consciousness, so to speak - seemed to also influence electrical activity and computers. So it was about human-machine interaction..

The public event chosen for the experiment was the announcement of the verdict of the O.J. Simpson trial. The experiment was nicknamed EGG, which stood for electrogaiagram, the instrument that measured the electronic acivity. Kate's very public trial and the robots on Aaron's bedroom wall make me think this was part of the reason the name was chosen.

This experiment is discussed extensively in Lynne McTaggart's books The Intention Experiment (http://www.theintentionexperiment.com/) and The Field (http://www.livingthefield.com/), which some of us have posted about before. They're pseudo-science based, and anyone who's read them and watched Lost think they're practically textbooks for the show. I've posted before about how they tell the so-called real life story of a fried chicken chain (a la Mr. Cluck) magnate, Ed Mitchell the *Apollo* astronaut, "two snowmen" references, and numerous other things we've seen on Lost. Reading them is like watching the show, the parallels are spooky.

Like all Lost episodes, the egg theme is multi-layered, includes pregnancy issues, Locke's cooking and throwing the eggs against the wall, easter eggs, etc...

Wow. Also very cool. I read Great Mambo Chicken and the Transhuman Condition, after taking part in the Transhumanism thread on this board, but now I think I should read those too!

This should clear some things up for your questions. (found on lostpedia)

"Egg-town is a pejorative term that refers to the days of bartering. A traveling salesman would have to barter his candy or tobacco or shoelaces for different commodities. A poor exchange would be for eggs, a relatively common item that is also highly perishable. Nobody wants to trade for eggs from a traveling salesman because they have their own, so the salesman who accepted an egg in exchange was forced to accept a bad deal. Salesmen would use the term like "If I were you I would stay away from Bogart. That's an egg-town." Of course, the lack of trust among salesman was also high, and it was likely that one salesman would lie to another about the quality of a town's customers to keep them for himself. Invariably, the second salesman ventures into to Bogart only to find it is truly an egg-town. He is either persuaded to not visit a town that has good customers or is tricked into visiting a town that can only offer eggs. The term "egg-town" represents a deal with undesirable outcomes in either case."

This may have to do with all the deals that are being made (Ben/Miles). Or maybe it deals with the deal with the O6 was not a good deal on either sides?

I think this is right. I was wondering about the title too, and I think this makes sense; as far as bartering for information that one person thinks is important... Locke was really concerned with what Miles and Ben talked about; and Miles tries to barter with Ben; and Sayid bartered Charlotte for Miles- I see a lot of this in the episode.

Is the term "eggtown" a nickname for some city? I've never heard this term before, can anyone enlighten me?

Could be a reference to fertility or possibly the "chicken and egg" paradox when you consider what was on Locke's dinner menu.

was wondering that meself...I figured it was a hint to some fertility stuff, but not much really was said about it. Surely it wasnt just about the breakfast?

Chock full of Easter Eggs, that may be relevant in future episodes?!
eggs.. mmmm.. :friedegg: :essen:

was wondering that meself...I figured it was a hint to some fertility stuff, but not much really was said about it. Surely it wasnt just about the breakfast?

i was thinking the same thing seeing that Kate ended up with Claire's hatched egg......

According to Lostpedia:

"Egg-town is a pejorative term that refers to the days of bartering, during the Great Depression. A traveling salesman would have to barter his candy or tobacco or shoelaces for different commodities. A poor exchange would be for eggs, a relatively common item that is also highly perishable. Nobody wants to trade for eggs from a traveling salesman because they have their own, so the salesman who accepted an egg in exchange was forced to accept a bad deal. Salesmen would use the term like "If I were you I would stay away from Bogart. That's an egg-town." Of course, the lack of trust among salesman was also high, and it was likely that one salesman would lie to another about the quality of a town's customers to keep them for himself. Invariably, the second salesman ventures into Bogart only to find it is truly an egg-town. He is either persuaded to not visit a town that has good customers or is tricked into visiting a town that can only offer eggs. The term "egg-town" represents a deal with undesirable outcomes in either case. [source needed (http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Lostpedia:General_usage_guide#Citing_Sources)]
References in this episode include:

The inability of Locke (http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Locke) to makes any progress with the interrogation of Ben (http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Ben) or Miles (http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Miles).
The deal Kate (http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Kate) made. She is now forbidden to leave the state and thus can't legally go back to the island for any reason for at least ten years.


The episode starts with literal eggs: Locke preparing an omelet breakfast for Ben. He tells Ben these are the last two eggs.
Kate's preoccupation with the chance that she might be pregnant, and the continuing references to her child in the episode's flashforwards.
Locke's inability to establish any communication with Jacob (http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Jacob).
Locke kills a chicken (no more eggs).

Annieone, thank you for that information! You've made sense not only of the title but to some degree of the episode for me. All the deals done on this episode were bad ones.

maybe trying to keep the oceanic 6 all in the same area is like" keeping all your eggs in one basket" hahaha

I think the title is part of the problem with this episode...

btw, the explanation is Lospedia's
http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Eggtown

Thanks annieone! I've been wondering about the title for a week now.

That should actually be a Sticky at the top of the Episode Thread!

It's also the town in an animation movie called The Easter Egg Escapade.

"Egg Town is an idyllic village where neighbouring chickens and rabbits live together in harmony. Beyond the borders of this humble burg however, lurk mysterious and thieving ''Take-Its'', who conspire to steal Egg Town's Easter eggs and its fun-loving spirit.
An unlikely group of Egg Town's residents, including Good Gracious Grasshopper, brave the dangers of the swamp and the evil ''Take-Its'' lair to retrieve the eggs. Throughout their hare-raising adventure, everbody forms bonds of special friendship, overcome their deepest fears and find the courage to bring the spirit and joy of Easter back to Egg Town."

Would someone be kind enough to explain the title of the episode? Aside from the two eggs Locke cooked up, I don't get it. Is there some kind of ovary/egg reference there I'm not seeing ?

Maybe we don't get it because it is an anagram?? Get Wong! Get Gown?

Hey, check it out here, and there is another thread that's pretty active about the title as well.

http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=89533

Thank you!

There is an excelent explanation for the title here, in Lostpedia
http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Eggtown

Egg-town is a pejorative term that refers to the days of bartering, during the Great Depression. A traveling salesman would have to barter his candy or tobacco or shoelaces for different commodities. A poor exchange would be for eggs, a relatively common item that is also highly perishable. Nobody wants to trade for eggs from a traveling salesman because they have their own, so the salesman who accepted an egg in exchange was forced to accept a bad deal. Salesmen would use the term like "If I were you I would stay away from Bogart. That's an egg-town." Of course, the lack of trust among salesman was also high, and it was likely that one salesman would lie to another about the quality of a town's customers to keep them for himself. Invariably, the second salesman ventures into Bogart only to find it is truly an egg-town. He is either persuaded to not visit a town that has good customers or is tricked into visiting a town that can only offer eggs. The term "egg-town" represents a deal with undesirable outcomes in either case. [source needed (http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Lostpedia:General_usage_guide#Citing_Sources)]
References in this episode include:

The inability of Locke (http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Locke) to makes any progress with the interrogation of Ben (http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Ben) or Miles (http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Miles).
The deal Kate (http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Kate) made. She is now forbidden to leave the state and thus can't legally go back to the island for any reason for at least ten years.
The barracks turn out to be Egg-town for Miles (http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Miles); He tries to extort 3.2 million dollars from Ben and ends up with a grenade in his mouth instead.
The episode starts with literal eggs: Locke preparing an omelet breakfast for Ben. He tells Ben these are the last two eggs.

This should clear some things up for your questions. (found on lostpedia)

"Egg-town is a pejorative term that refers to the days of bartering. A traveling salesman would have to barter his candy or tobacco or shoelaces for different commodities. A poor exchange would be for eggs, a relatively common item that is also highly perishable. Nobody wants to trade for eggs from a traveling salesman because they have their own, so the salesman who accepted an egg in exchange was forced to accept a bad deal. Salesmen would use the term like "If I were you I would stay away from Bogart. That's an egg-town." Of course, the lack of trust among salesman was also high, and it was likely that one salesman would lie to another about the quality of a town's customers to keep them for himself. Invariably, the second salesman ventures into to Bogart only to find it is truly an egg-town. He is either persuaded to not visit a town that has good customers or is tricked into visiting a town that can only offer eggs. The term "egg-town" represents a deal with undesirable outcomes in either case."

This may have to do with all the deals that are being made (Ben/Miles). Or maybe it deals with the deal with the O6 was not a good deal on either sides?


I'll buy that, but this seems to be the most overtly subtle title reference we've seen in LOST so far. I buy the story that it signifies either a desperate/cheap/hopeless area (New New Otherton aka Lockeville), and ties into the FF as Kate's situation in the courtroom; make a deal with her mother, get Aaron on the stand, have Jack lie - all unacceptable choices to free her.

It doesn't seem like I'm the only one who hasn't heard of this reference. It just strikes me as odd that they'd use such an antiquated and obscure reference in the title, when they never have before (to the best of my knowledge).

One thought I had is that this could be a sort of metafictional title, meaning that the story eggs TPTB have been nesting for the past 3 seasons are truly starting to hatch, and that the endgame is now in play. Or, that with this episode, they have laid eggs that we will see hatch throughout the rest of the season.

Hmmm...curiouser and curiouser.

All this time, I thought Eggtown stood for the shape of Locke's head. Shows you what I know...

I wrote this in another thread...

"Egg Town is an idyllic village where neighbouring chickens and rabbits live together in harmony. Beyond the borders of this humble burg however, lurk mysterious and thieving ''Take-Its'', who conspire to steal Egg Town's Easter eggs and its fun-loving spirit.
An unlikely group of Egg Town's residents, including Good Gracious Grasshopper, brave the dangers of the swamp and the evil ''Take-Its'' lair to retrieve the eggs. Throughout their hare-raising adventure, everbody forms bonds of special friendship, overcome their deepest fears and find the courage to bring the spirit and joy of Easter back to Egg Town."

Edit: Forgot to add, it's from a children's book - The Easter Egg Escapade.

that perplexed me, cause well.....ummmmm, i'm no farmer,
but if you just used the last two eggs, why would you kill the chicken?
wouldn't you need all the chickens you could get for more eggs?
:34853_huh:


Maybe the writers have just written the answer to the age old question of which came first?

Locke offers Ben the last two eggs. Ben in turn scrambles Locke simillar causing him to throw food in a rage, like in the swan
Locke again had 'egg on his face' figuratively maybe the inspriation for granade face.
Locke offers Ben the last two eggs. Ben in turn scrambles Locke similar causing him to throw food in a rage, like in the swan
Locke again had 'egg on his face' figuratively maybe the inspiration for grenade face
"The Dictionary of Cliches" by James Rogers (Ballatine Books, New York, 1985): "to have egg on your face - To be embarrassed or chagrined at something one has done or the way one did it; to do something ineptly.

All this talk of eggs and chickens and pregnancies has made me think. If for some reason the women on the island die in childbirth and cant have children, is that the same for the animals on the island? Why would it be different for the animals? We have seen baby boars so i suppose not. But i cant see why there would be a difference?

Also, maybe the eggs didnt come from the chickens, but they were from dharma drops of food, and thats why he pointed out they were the last eggs. If you had chickens, surely you would have a near endless supply of eggs? This would also be very strange if dharma were still dropping food.

Maybe it's just cause I'm re-watching it at the moment... but in the TV show The Prisoner (which has been discussed alot on the Fuse and in many ways is the precursor to Lost, with many of the same themes running throughout) the first episode, The Arrival, starts with Number 6 (the main character's 'name) being asked to come to his arch-rival's house, Number 2.

The first thing Number 2 offers number 6 is breakfast. Number 2 says 'one or 2 eggs with your bacon' Number 6 says 2 and a waiter reveals a tray with 2 eggs and bacon, as if someone knew all along what number 6 wanted.

Now looking at the way this scene is played out it really does mirror the Locke/Ben confrontation in the basement, even the plate arrangement (no bacon for Ben though). I'm not saying it's the reason why the episode is called eggtown but just an observation.

This could be a stretch but maybe it is an allegory that the community that Locke is trying to build is fragile like an egg.

dumb name for a dumb episode. I wanted to throw eggs at Jack when he took that testimony, hows that for a reference?

about 1/2 way through the smoke monster appears

http://www.lovefilm.com/product/detail.html?product_id=46025&auto_show_trailer=1&show_trailer=1

:eek: :eek: :eek:

Maybe the writers have just written the answer to the age old question of which came first?

You know, maybe there is something to that. We are all trying to figure out what the deal with the timing of things is - maybe it's an inside joke.

I love the definition of an egg town from Lostipedia. I also like the idea that there might be some important easter eggs in the episode - hence Locke's line to Ben about re-reading a book he's read before to "pick up something different" on the second time through.

....cuz Locke's dome looks strikingly like an egg, and it's his town.


Has that been said before? :confused:

Yeah, I thought it would be more obvious too. But I think it's just a reference to the fact that all of a sudden they're living in a place where they sleep in beds, have showers, and eat eggs for breakfast.

This could be a stretch but maybe it is an allegory that the community that Locke is trying to build is fragile like an egg.
Maybe not as much of a stretch as you think. My friend Alley's friend Robin thought it referred to the difficulty of repairing some splits, like that of a broken egg. The previous episode dwelled on Berlin, a formerly divided city. The connection is reinforced in Robin's thinking by Humpty Dumpty, represented by an egg, who sat on a wall. In other words, we're seeing a long lasting divide developing between 2 factions of Losties (or in my thinking, in the conspiracy behind them), and all the king's horse's and you know the rest. So Berlin = Egg Town. But the Berlin Wall did eventually come down.

In a similar vein, it could refer to the acrimonious split in "Gulliver's" Travels between those who said eggs should be broken on the big end and those who said it should be broken on the little end -- in other words, the tendency for violent conflict to eventually result from trivial differences. (It was traced back to a one-time minor knife accident experienced by some VIP.)

Or it could refer to Lenin's statement that you can't make an omelet without breaking eggs -- i.e. an excuse for harm to others in furthering one's effort.

I love the definition of an egg town from Lostipedia. I also like the idea that there might be some important easter eggs in the episode - hence Locke's line to Ben about re-reading a book he's read before to "pick up something different" on the second time through.
Heh...especially if Locke slipped a note to him in it. But I thought Benry might've read the napkin instead. Remember, there are lots of surveillance cameras around.

Robert

This could be wrong, but aren't grenades sometimes referred to as eggs? Which would mean Locke fed Miles a great big egg for his breakfast...

And the napkin reminded me very much of Steven King's Eyes of the Dragon. They play a very important part in Prince Peter's life in prison.

This could be wrong, but aren't grenades sometimes referred to as eggs? Which would mean Locke fed Miles a great big egg for his breakfast...

And the napkin reminded me very much of Steven King's Eyes of the Dragon. They play a very important part in Prince Peter's life in prison.

In WW1, grenades were nicknamed eggs...I hope Miles' doesnt hatch too soon...

Reason:

If you put many eggs into one basket, you have to be fragile with them because they could break eachother.

Othersville is now inhabited with lots of losties, that are in fragile situation.

I had a Turkey, egg and cheese sandwich on a whole wheat bagel today.

mmmmmm, egggggsss!!!

The Barracks are a place where, probably, the families of Dharma scientists lived all together in an utopian harmony (Almost!). So, in a certain way, each of those houses were like a 'love nestle' for families to procreate until the infertility issue kicked in...

So Eggtown=Barracks?

Could it be a reference to West Egg and East Egg , the locations in the The Great Gatsby? In TGG, the difference between East Egg and West Egg is a difference in class and stature. Like the difference between the tents on the beach and the homes in the Others' camp.

originally posted by DesmondMorris:
about 1/2 way through the smoke monster appears

http://www.lovefilm.com/product/detail.html?product_id=46025&auto_show_trailer=1&show_trailer=1

:eek: :eek: :eek:


Wow, this was... I have no words. The smoke monster appears to have fallen into a mud puddle!

Just like an egg, this title seem to have various layers/parts to make the whole. The literal eggs and symbolic and literary references. I hope Damon and Carlton address the title in their next podcast.

Dunno if this has been mentioned already, but I thought it was a reference to the Beatles' song "I am the Walrus". You know...

I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together.
See how they run like pigs from a gun, see how they fly.
I'm crying.

Sitting on a cornflake, waiting for the van to come.
Corporation tee-shirt, stupid bloody Tuesday.
MAN, you been a naughty boy, you let your face grow long.
I am the eggman, they are the eggmen, I am the walrus,
goo goo g'joob

From Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Am_the_Walrus):

The walrus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walrus) within the song is a reference to the walrus in Lewis Carroll (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Carroll)'s "The Walrus and the Carpenter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Walrus_and_the_Carpenter)" (from the book Through the Looking Glass (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Through_the_Looking_Glass)). Lennon later expressed dismay at learning that the walrus was the villain (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Villain) within the poem (see below).

"It never dawned on me that Lewis Carroll was commenting on the capitalist and social system. I never went into that bit about what he really meant, like people are doing with the Beatles' work. Later, I went back and looked at it and realized that the walrus was the bad guy in the story and the carpenter was the good guy. I thought, Oh, shit, I picked the wrong guy. I should have said, 'I am the carpenter.' But that wouldn't have been the same, would it? [Singing] 'I am the carpenter....'"

You know, like Hugo talking to Jack a couple of episodes ago and telling him that he never should have gone with Locke. Her picked the wrong guy, too. I figured the title was a nod to that.

Not to mention the obvious fertility connections to eggs, of course.

Maybe it was with the fact that Locke thinks his running the place, i mean, EggHead, Locke and his baldness. and the Town comes from locke thinking he runs the place.

So Egg comes from Lockes EGGHEAD. and Town from him thinking he runs the place.

EGG-TOWN

imagine him. "Get Out kate, THIS IS EGGTOWN!" Kicks her into the hole like in 300.

Dunno if this has been mentioned already, but I thought it was a reference to the Beatles' song "I am the Walrus". You know...




I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together.
See how they run like pigs from a gun, see how they fly.
I'm crying.

Sitting on a cornflake, waiting for the van to come.
Corporation tee-shirt, stupid bloody Tuesday.
MAN, you been a naughty boy, you let your face grow long.
I am the eggman, they are the eggmen, I am the walrus,
goo goo g'joob

From Wikipedia:
The walrus within the song is a reference to the walrus in Lewis Carroll's "The Walrus and the Carpenter" (from the book Through the Looking Glass). Lennon later expressed dismay at learning that the walrus was the villain within the poem (see below).


You know, like Hugo talking to Jack a couple of episodes ago and telling him that he never should have gone with Locke. Her picked the wrong guy, too. I figured the title was a nod to that.

Not to mention the obvious fertility connections to eggs, of course.

being a Beatles fan.....and an egg fan, I'm going with this one, lol

great little connection there, Michelle

i'm also a walrus fan. :biggrin:

Fine Dont go with my idea then

Maybe the chickens stopped laying eggs after the sky turned purple? That's why there were only two eggs left. I dunno. I think the bartering explanation is the most plausible.

Fine Dont go with my idea then

:sob: :biggrin:

Maybe it is a reference to counting your chickens before they hatch!

Maybe it's a reference to Baltimore (actually Phoenix, Maryland), the city where the character in Pink Flamingos who loved eggs lived.

<shudder> I just sort of grossed myself out thinking about the end of that movie while eating lunch. If you don't know why and have never seen the movie 1) count yourself lucky and 2) consider yourself warned if you decide to do any research to find out why.

BTW, don't take this to mean that I didn't, on some level, enjoy that movie. But once was enough.

And now back to your thread . . . :biggrin:

This is what I think. Salesmen/women that went from town to town selling things, often traded stolen objects. (STOLEN LIKE AARON) people in the towns would trade their shoes, clothing, cutlery, ect... so the town's where the people that didn't make "fair trades" were called "Eggtowns" (sorry if this doesn't make sense, its hard to explain.) And noticeable enough, deals were made through-out the whole episode. (e.g, Miles with the money, Kate with the lawyers, ect..) So who's getting the unfair trade?? who's the eggtown?

Maybe the chickens stopped laying eggs after the sky turned purple? That's why there were only two eggs left. I dunno. I think the bartering explanation is the most plausible.

I don't know why but when I heard Locke say "last two eggs" I thought of the same thing. I mean come on, something had to chnage, right...

This may be totally stupid... but babies come from eggs... girl releases an eggie, boy comes in contact with it... baby...

This may be totally stupid... but babies come from eggs... girl releases an eggie, boy comes in contact with it... baby...

I thought the same thing . :rolleyes:

This idea isn't well thought out, but...Maybe its a reference to "what came first, the chicken or the egg". Which might be a reference to time loops being discussed in other threads. I'm not sure why I thing this, but it seems the killing of the chicken is significant. It stops the "loop" or represents some ultimate control by Locke.

Take a gander at this maybe they are goose eggs 00. or they mean nothing

In the podcast for The Constant which is out there Darlton state that it was called Eggtown because

Locke's encounter with the eggs, and the pregnancy issue with Kate.

This is the worst episode title of the series, beating out Lockdown. That title would have been just fine, if the one of the main characters wasn't named Locke or he wasn't "down" in that episode.

Whoever thought of the title Eggtown should be ashamed.

Eggtown, a bad deal. see Lostpedia

In the podcast for The Constant which is out there Darlton state that it was called Eggtown because

Locke's encounter with the eggs, and the pregnancy issue with Kate.

I think "Walkabout" should be a writer because his idea above:
"Maybe its a reference to "what came first, the chicken or the egg". Which might be a reference to time loops being discussed in other threads. I'm not sure why I thing this, but it seems the killing of the chicken is significant. It stops the "loop" or represents some ultimate control by Locke."

sounds a whole lot better!

I think "Walkabout" should be a writer because his idea above:
"Maybe its a reference to "what came first, the chicken or the egg". Which might be a reference to time loops being discussed in other threads. I'm not sure why I thing this, but it seems the killing of the chicken is significant. It stops the "loop" or represents some ultimate control by Locke."

sounds a whole lot better!




Thanks Skippy2Tacos!

I don't know why but when I heard Locke say "last two eggs" I thought of the same thing. I mean come on, something had to chnage, right...
Well, in Survivor, when one tribe has a laying hen or two, they usually kill & eat them just when they anticipate a merging of tribes, so that they get all the benefit. So maybe Lost is saying a merge is ahead shortly.

Robert

This week's Lost Podcast: there was a question about why the name Eggtown. They DID not mention the Lostpedia definition. Just the fertility thing and Locke bringing eggs to Ben, etc.