I think she got her tubes tied after her pregnancy scare pre-island. Anyone else think that? She seemed positive. Her life was always about running running running, and I think she took matters into her own hands to make sure that she could never be tied down.

I think the reason she is so pissed at Sawyer is because she knows that they CAN'T ever have a child together.

Thoughts?

I actually have no idea why she was pissed at Sawyer, actually, because he only got annoyed with her when she was acting all weird -- not answering his questions about why she was leaving, etc.

BUT, the other, more mundane reason that she could know she isn't pregnant is simply that she got her period. :shrug:

I actually just assumed that Kate had her period. That's what her expressions said.

I agree with you that there is something that she knows....a reason why she, without a doubt, can't be pregnant. Not sure if it's having her tubes tied or something else, but she knows it's a non-issue. She had that "I know something you don't know" look about her when she told Sawyer she couldn't be pregnant.
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I actually just assumed that Kate had her period. That's what her expressions said.

That's a good possibility. I am not sure of the timeline of the show....from her first encounter with Sawyer until now has been what in Island time....a couple of days maybe? Has enough time elapsed for her to have had her period and stopped before she and Sawyer were together again?

Wait, okay, the question of her period ties in with another thread about whether Sawyer "got" sex or not. I inferred from the scene that they had sex at night, just not in the morning. Obvi, if they had sex at night... well, he'd know if she had her period....

So that's why I thought tubes tied.

I know she's wearing her undies the next morning, but tv shows frequently have the woman put her undies back on for the morning-after shot, so it's like risque for the censors.

I was thinking that she wanted to see his reaction when she said that she definitely wasn't pregnant. When he was so happy that she wasn't, it seemed to make her mad. I was thinking that she, in a way, wanted to be pregnant.

But then again, knowing what Kate knows about conceiving on the island, and how women don't survive their pregnancies, maybe that's what she was thinking about. Why wouldn't Sawyer want to make sure that didn't happen to her? Protect her?

If Kate was unable to get pregnant because of having her tubes tied or something, she never would have been worried before that she might be pregnant.

I actually just assumed that Kate had her period. That's what her expressions said.

Yeah same here. They didn't want to get it on that night or in the morning and knew without a doubt that she wasn't pregnant. So either she simply wasn't in the mood and had also found a pregnancy test or she got her period.

But if she simply had her period, why wouldn't she just tell him that? She's all acting coy and annoying. I don't get it.

But if she simply had her period, why wouldn't she just tell him that? She's all acting coy and annoying. I don't get it.
Because she's all prim and proper? :rolleyes:
They didn't have sex at night. He said they didn't "go all the way."

The issue has not been resolved, imo. Kate sure as heck wants off the island, and when Miles told her that the freighties know all about her and that she'd be better off staying on the island, she didn't seem to consider that a viable option. Of course, it could have all been to mislead us into thinking that she was pregnant with the son that she referred to in the ff.

Unfortunately, I wouldn't be surprised if tptb don't give us a definitive answer about whether or not Kate is pregnant until it's been so long that it's apparent that she's not pregnant. Or else they'll just inform us that she's not during a podcast.

ETA: so if they didn't go all the way the night before or that morning, then why did Kate even approach him? (And this was after her agenda with Miles was accomplished.) There's something up with all of her weird behavior.

I don't think she was being coy. I thought she gave him the "I had my period" look, which is why he was so happy. He got his answer from her expression. She could have had it that morning, which would explain why she kept pushing him off of her.

Like allergygirl said, if she had her tubes tied, she never would have been worried in the first place!

I think she got her period and didn't want to tell Sawyer, but then the conversation spiraled out of control as usual with these two, and now they are on the outs.

That's what I naturally assumed as well - she got her period.

But I still often wonder what she and Ben talked about over breakfast that time...

ok facrualy if she had her period..where the heck did she get a tampon or pad orsomething?

Sawyer would hav eknown before she told, esp since she was in her undies.

My vote is she knows she is but is pissed he doesn't care, doesn't want one, and knows she will die if she stays, so to make it easier to leave him, who she knows doesn't wanna go, she tells him she isnt.

Hello, do these people have amnesia? They don't happen remember that pregnant women DIE? Being unsuitable for parenthood isn't really the central issue here, is it?

Kate and Sawyer also, apparently, have never heard of birth control, or of all the non-baby-making but still quite pleasant ways of making love.

Pretty unrealistic for two folks who are supposed to be street-smart.

Kate has never actually seemed to worry that she is pregnant on island. She kept having sex with Sawyer after she had been informed that pregnancy=death. I had the same thought as Laura, that she either had her tubes tied or knows that she's infertile. Of course, since they're teasing us into thinking the kid in the flashforward is her biological child with Sawyer, they can't let her explain things clearly. But why she is annoyed that Sawyer wouldn't want to have a kid with her when she's just told Claire that she don't know nothin' 'bout holding no babies is beyond me.

But then Kate's boomeranging between these two guys has always been beyond me. I'm kind of glad that, for a little while, she's driven both of them away.

Cardie

I actually just assumed that Kate had her period. That's what her expressions said.

That's what I got from it. And let me tell ya... I'm thrilled. :clap::clapping:

ok facrualy if she had her period..where the heck did she get a tampon or pad orsomething?



I'm guessing the same place that they get the boxed wine? From the Dharma supply drops?

Because she's all prim and proper? :rolleyes:
They didn't have sex at night. He said they didn't "go all the way."

:lol2: Such a high school phrase. Cute.


ETA: so if they didn't go all the way the night before or that morning, then why did Kate even approach him? (And this was after her agenda with Miles was accomplished.) There's something up with all of her weird behavior.

non-sex comfort?

ok facrualy if she had her period..where the heck did she get a tampon or pad orsomething?

Sawyer would hav eknown before she told, esp since she was in her undies.

My vote is she knows she is but is pissed he doesn't care, doesn't want one, and knows she will die if she stays, so to make it easier to leave him, who she knows doesn't wanna go, she tells him she isnt.

They are in Otherville. For sure they have pads and tampons. But, yes, I'm sure he would know she has her period, so I mean.... huh?

Anyway, her raising Aaron confirms to me that she had her tubes tied (now that I'm thinking more about it). It's like a bittersweet resolution. The woman who always ran, who never thought she could even hold a baby, is now raising her friend's baby, etc. It's like full circle or something.

Of course, since they're teasing us into thinking the kid in the flashforward is her biological child with Sawyer, they can't let her explain things clearly. But why she is annoyed that Sawyer wouldn't want to have a kid with her when she's just told Claire that she don't know nothin' 'bout holding no babies is beyond me.


I don't understand her at all. Sometimes her character is just BEYOND me. Like, WHY did she smack Sawyer like that??

Kate has never actually seemed to worry that she is pregnant on island. She kept having sex with Sawyer after she had been informed that pregnancy=death.

Brings up a good point and makes me think that her being pregnant and knowing if she stays she will die is a huge incentive to get off of the island. There has been a lot of question as to why she would want to get off the island when she knows that she is going to face all of those charges. Death is a good incentive to get the heck out, even if she does have to go to jail. And considering her history I wouldn't be surprised if she figured she could take off when she got back to the states.

Kate is all about taking care of #1. Self preservation is her #1 concern and will do whatever it takes to make it out alive.

Hello, do these people have amnesia? They don't happen remember that pregnant women DIE? Being unsuitable for parenthood isn't really the central issue here, is it?
I thought she meant off the island -- because she is still planning to leave.

Brings up a good point and makes me think that her being pregnant and knowing if she stays she will die is a huge incentive to get off of the island. There has been a lot of question as to why she would want to get off the island when she knows that she is going to face all of those charges. Death is a good incentive to get the heck out, even if she does have to go to jail.

Yes, I thought that too, throughout the episode. BUT, if Aaron is Claire's child, not Kate's, then where is the child that she was pregnant with? I just can't imagine they would ever kill a child on this show. I guess she could have a miscarriage?

All these things are contradicting in my mind. If I think she can't have be pregnant, the Aaron is for sure Claire's Aaron. So then why did Kate end up leaving the island? I guess it must be that Claire is dying and begs Kate to raise him off of the island....

Well, there's always the possibility that she could fake being pregnant to get off the island. I don't think that they (the writers) would have her stoop to that level. And if they did she wouldn't have told Sawyer she wasn't pregnant.

Ugh so may if's.....

I don't understand her at all. Sometimes her character is just BEYOND me. Like, WHY did she smack Sawyer like that??
Kate cares for both Jack and Sawyer, but at that moment she had much bigger concerns than a love life....like how to get a handle on leaving the island with the legal charges hanging over her head. That was a *huge* stressful issue, and she had come to Otherville and just done a kick-butt job to get information, then Sawyer made that chauvinistic crack implying that all she was doing was running between the two.
I love love the guy but that was a cheap shot.. I would have smacked him too.

I love love the guy but that was a cheap shot.. I would have smacked him too.

I'm by no means a shipper or a jater or skater or whatever the heck they are called. the only relationship i care for is on Jericho (Stanley and Mimi FTW!).

That being said, I disagree about it being a cheap shot. It's about time Sawyer starts speaking up. He knows the score and he's done being used by Kate.

I'm really starting to think that Kate really is a bad person. The way she's Scoobey-Dooing everyone--she's clearly got some sort of agenda that doesn't involve her "picking a side" yet. And the fact that off the island she's got Aaron and she's claiming him as her son? Something is seriously up.

Wait, okay, the question of her period ties in with another thread about whether Sawyer "got" sex or not. I inferred from the scene that they had sex at night, just not in the morning. Obvi, if they had sex at night... well, he'd know if she had her period....

So that's why I thought tubes tied.

I know she's wearing her undies the next morning, but tv shows frequently have the woman put her undies back on for the morning-after shot, so it's like risque for the censors.

If you listen to the actual dialoge, Saywer said that they didn't go all of the way the night before. She is holding off of the sex for what ever reason. Heck she could be a person that does not like having sex when she is on her period. If she was a fugitive for all of those years I seriously doubt she would have had the money to have elective surgery of having her tubes tied. If Kate says she is sure she is not pregnant then she is sure she is not pregnant. She was worried at the end of Season 3 that she might be pregnant. That does not sound like a women who has had her tubes tied does it

I was thinking that she wanted to see his reaction when she said that she definitely wasn't pregnant. When he was so happy that she wasn't, it seemed to make her mad. I was thinking that she, in a way, wanted to be pregnant.

But then again, knowing what Kate knows about conceiving on the island, and how women don't survive their pregnancies, maybe that's what she was thinking about. Why wouldn't Sawyer want to make sure that didn't happen to her? Protect her?
I agree that she was mad at Sawyer cause he was happy she wasn't pregnant. Personally it makes more sense that she is , and that is why she wants off the island so bad,( esp since she knows she will face trial if she does get off) , She told him no, cause she doesn't want commitments or esp him worrrying about her being pregnant on the island . She is pushing him away and keeping secrets but also mad cause he was so fast to be glad she wasn't.

Well, there's always the possibility that she could fake being pregnant to get off the island. I don't think that they (the writers) would have her stoop to that level. And if they did she wouldn't have told Sawyer she wasn't pregnant.

Ugh so may if's.....

I wouldn't put any behaviors past Kate. Every time they try to redeem her, she does something else that makes her look despicable.

Kate cares for both Jack and Sawyer, but at that moment she had much bigger concerns than a love life....like how to get a handle on leaving the island with the legal charges hanging over her head. That was a *huge* stressful issue, and she had come to Otherville and just done a kick-butt job to get information, then Sawyer made that chauvinistic crack implying that all she was doing was running between the two.
I love love the guy but that was a cheap shot.. I would have smacked him too.

I don't see it that way at all. And he had NO idea why she wanted to talk to Miles! I'm sorry, but the old story of her and how she wants to get off the island, but how will she do it with the charges hanging over hear head.... ugh, it's old. And Sawyer can't read her mind. She was being cryptic! AND she all joins him in bed? What does she think he's going to want from her? Jeez!

I'm by no means a shipper or a jater or skater or whatever the heck they are called. the only relationship i care for is on Jericho (Stanley and Mimi FTW!).

That being said, I disagree about it being a cheap shot. It's about time Sawyer starts speaking up. He knows the score and he's done being used by Kate.

I agree DS. Seriously, it's good that he spoke up. And he did NOT deserve that smack. Ugh.

I'm really starting to think that Kate really is a bad person. The way she's Scoobey-Dooing everyone--she's clearly got some sort of agenda that doesn't involve her "picking a side" yet. And the fact that off the island she's got Aaron and she's claiming him as her son? Something is seriously up.

I don't want to think that... but I keep thinking it..... I am really, really hoping that Kate wouldn't do something so horrible. I hope that the reason she is so emphatic about Aaron being her son is because of the Big Lie of O6. She has to say so, you know?

If you listen to the actual dialoge, Saywer said that they didn't go all of the way the night before. She is holding off of the sex for what ever reason. Heck she could be a person that does not like having sex when she is on her period. If she was a fugitive for all of those years I seriously doubt she would have had the money to have elective surgery of having her tubes tied. If Kate says she is sure she is not pregnant then she is sure she is not pregnant. She was worried at the end of Season 3 that she might be pregnant. That does not sound like a women who has had her tubes tied does it

Yeah, I was corrected. I realize now that they didn't have sex. Maybe tube tie isn't realistic. But I'm still keeping the option open in my mind.

She could have gotten a hysterectomy after her mom got cancer. Some women do that to decrease their risk.

But last season finale Kate was very scared about being pregnant and brought it up with Sawyer. Unless she got her tubes tied in the Staff Station sometime recently, she had her period. All I got from that scene was "ah, so periods do exist on the island," I think that was the first time they were "mentioned"

Assuming from your name OP is a female, so shouldn't Kate having her Period have been her first guess.

I have to ask (and I don't want to start a new thread) what was Kate's dialog in this scene, right when Sawyer grabs her wrists and she mumbles something which puts a stop to the cuddling? The close-captioning didn't work on that one line, of course. (I'm just trying to make sense of her in this scene...)

I actually just assumed that Kate had her period. That's what her expressions said.


I'm so glad you said that. LOL!! I was thinking the same thing but didn't want to say it. I ALSO think thats why she didn't sleep w/ Sawyer.... because it was that time of the month.

Ahem. There might be another scenario. Perhaps she lied about having her period. Girls do that you know, to get out of having sex. Maybe she just wanted to cuddle. :angel: Or maybe she didn't want him to worry.

We know she's not pregnant in the future, but if at that time she thought she might be pregnant, she would HAVE to get off the island, then face a big trial. Sawyer is not somebody you want tagging along -- not the best character witness. I'm just saying. And you don't exactly want rumors on the island of "who'd the daddy" etc. So you lie. "Nope, I'm not pregnant." She thinks they're being rescued soon, she doesn't have to be honest to a guy that didn't want to be rescued with her (especially if he that he was going to have a baby). But, we know the future, so I guess it doesn't matter. All I'm saying is, she might have lied about her time of the month.

BTW, an entire thread about Kate's period? Hmmm.

Ahem. There might be another scenario. Perhaps she lied about having her period. Girls do that you know, to get out of having sex. Maybe she just wanted to cuddle. :angel: Or maybe she didn't want him to worry.

We know she's not pregnant in the future, but if at that time she thought she might be pregnant, she would HAVE to get off the island, then face a big trial. Sawyer is not somebody you want tagging along -- not the best character witness. I'm just saying. And you don't exactly want rumors on the island of "who'd the daddy" etc. So you lie. "Nope, I'm not pregnant." She thinks they're being rescued soon, she doesn't have to be honest to a guy that didn't want to be rescued with her (especially if he that he was going to have a baby). But, we know the future, so I guess it doesn't matter. All I'm saying is, she might have lied about her time of the month.

BTW, an entire thread about Kate's period? Hmmm.

Key Point Missed: The Others had insider information about virtually anyone they wanted. (They even knew that Sawyer had killed a man right before he left Australia.) The fact that they wanted Juliet to test Kate for pregnancy PLUS the fact that she is passing Aaron off as hers, show that she has no medically known reason for not being pregnant.

Most likely guess: she had her period.

Kate's bed partner - James - once had an STD.

If one of her previous partners was similarly afflicted - Kate's tubes could be blocked.

She's infertile - the flaw Mikhail referred to.

But on a healing island.... all bets are still on I think.

I don't think Kate was having her period. Because Sawyer said that they didn't go all the way last night because she was sad, but that in the morning she should give in because he was so charming. The expression she had when she said she was not pregnant was the expression she has when she's lying through her teeth. The events that followed indicated that she was there with Sawyer for one reason and one reason alone: to find out what his attitude was about being a father. Once she found out, there was nothing left to do but get back to the beach without him, so she could get off the island and have her baby. Earlier when he said "this is about the pregnancy stuff", she didn't deny it. If she knew she wasn't pregnant she would have told him then. The events that preceded that, with Miles, also make a lot more sense if she knows she's pregnant, and she knows she has to get off the island. In the previous episode when Sawyer asks why she would want to get off the island, just to face prison, she has no answer. In this episode, especially once she is certain that Sawyer has no interest in being a father, she has a sadness and seriousness that we haven't seen before. IMO, it all fits together perfectly. All we don't know is what happened to it. Since Juliette says "it happens at conception" maybe they end up having to kill it to save her.

Kate's bed partner - James - once had an STD.

If one of her previous partners was similarly afflicted - Kate's tubes could be blocked.

She's infertile - the flaw Mikhail referred to.

But on a healing island.... all bets are still on I think.

Ya, I'm going for tubes tied or an IUD (basically 100% protection + you still get your period)

Anyway.... how scared she was thinking she might be a mom, then thenforce drugging and leaving her husband. I'm sure a quick trip to the Planned Parenthood would do just the trick.

If she doesn't see it as a flaw, then I don't see why the island would expend engergy trying to untie them!!!!

O, yes.... surely Sawyer had the Darma supply of condoms.

I don't think Kate was having her period. Because Sawyer said that they didn't go all the way last night because she was sad, but that in the morning she should give in because he was so charming. The expression she had when she said she was not pregnant was the expression she has when she's lying through her teeth. The events that followed indicated that she was there with Sawyer for one reason and one reason alone: to find out what his attitude was about being a father. Once she found out, there was nothing left to do but get back to the beach without him, so she could get off the island and have her baby. Earlier when he said "this is about the pregnancy stuff", she didn't deny it. If she knew she wasn't pregnant she would have told him then. The events that preceded that, with Miles, also make a lot more sense if she knows she's pregnant, and she knows she has to get off the island. In the previous episode when Sawyer asks why she would want to get off the island, just to face prison, she has no answer. In this episode, especially once she is certain that Sawyer has no interest in being a father, she has a sadness and seriousness that we haven't seen before. IMO, it all fits together perfectly. All we don't know is what happened to it. Since Juliette says "it happens at conception" maybe they end up having to kill it to save her.

I'm not sure why so many people are dismissing this theory. It would clear up what so many considered OOC behavior from Kate in Eggtown, which is being chalked up to "bad writing." Kate may have Claire's Aaron in the not so distant future, but it doesn't rule out the possiblity that she was lying to Sawyer about not being pregnant.

I don't think Kate was having her period. Because Sawyer said that they didn't go all the way last night because she was sad, but that in the morning she should give in because he was so charming. The expression she had when she said she was not pregnant was the expression she has when she's lying through her teeth. The events that followed indicated that she was there with Sawyer for one reason and one reason alone: to find out what his attitude was about being a father. Once she found out, there was nothing left to do but get back to the beach without him, so she could get off the island and have her baby. Earlier when he said "this is about the pregnancy stuff", she didn't deny it. If she knew she wasn't pregnant she would have told him then. The events that preceded that, with Miles, also make a lot more sense if she knows she's pregnant, and she knows she has to get off the island. In the previous episode when Sawyer asks why she would want to get off the island, just to face prison, she has no answer. In this episode, especially once she is certain that Sawyer has no interest in being a father, she has a sadness and seriousness that we haven't seen before. IMO, it all fits together perfectly. All we don't know is what happened to it. Since Juliette says "it happens at conception" maybe they end up having to kill it to save her.
and now Juliet has to control cases Sun got pregnant before the sky turn purple and Kate got pregnant after, if that affect something on the pregnant women.

I don't think Kate was having her period. Because Sawyer said that they didn't go all the way last night because she was sad, but that in the morning she should give in because he was so charming. The expression she had when she said she was not pregnant was the expression she has when she's lying through her teeth. The events that followed indicated that she was there with Sawyer for one reason and one reason alone: to find out what his attitude was about being a father. Once she found out, there was nothing left to do but get back to the beach without him, so she could get off the island and have her baby. Earlier when he said "this is about the pregnancy stuff", she didn't deny it. If she knew she wasn't pregnant she would have told him then. The events that preceded that, with Miles, also make a lot more sense if she knows she's pregnant, and she knows she has to get off the island. In the previous episode when Sawyer asks why she would want to get off the island, just to face prison, she has no answer. In this episode, especially once she is certain that Sawyer has no interest in being a father, she has a sadness and seriousness that we haven't seen before. IMO, it all fits together perfectly. All we don't know is what happened to it. Since Juliette says "it happens at conception" maybe they end up having to kill it to save her.

Just perfect. Nothing to add, 'cause that's exactly what I think too. The expression of her face tells she's pregnant IMO.

I think that the whole thing was to set up to keep viewers in the dark before the big reveal of Aaron Littleton being her son. As tiresome as it is, I think she's still conflicted over her feelings for Jack and Sawyer. I think it is significant that Jack told her that he loves her and she's probably still processing that info which might lead to her reluctance with Sawyer -- she may not have figured that out for herself either. She wants the comfort he (Sawyer) can offer but she's really still conflicted about declaring herself clearly (for either relationship), bummer though that is.

I thought there was an interesting parallel with Jack's reaction to Sarah when they discussed her potential pregnancy. I think Sarah told Jack the truth about not being pregnant and she would have been willing to stick with him longer if he'd been saddened by her not being pregnant - even though she apparently was already involved with another guy.

I think that the same muddy issue is going on with Kate and Sawyer - she was testing the waters. She wanted to see his reaction to a child, since I think she really wants to be a mom (hence her scene with Claire at the clothesline) even though its not logical... its an emotional response/need for her to want a child. I think cognitively she knows it would be extremely foolish to have one but this is a long term life issue for Kate. She was saddened/relieved when she found out she and Kevin weren't expecting either. I think Kate is playing russian roulette and treating guys as some extent as sperm donors and being very careless because she's hoping on some level to get pregnant and have the decision taken out of her hands for her... I think Kate is all about having a child emotionally and less about a relationship with a guy. I think that a child being her priority is pretty clear in the ff as well. IMO the whole scene with Sawyer is pointless if she can't get pregnant and you'd lose all the subtext and parallels about the duality in the characters Sawyer and Jack.

I think Kate gets nervous when a man actually loves her and wants to be with her long term. All her running and waffling seems to indicate this. She was looking for a reason to bail on Sawyer's dream of playing house, so she can use his desire not to have a child to blow him off, just as she, oppositely, used the possibility of having a child with Kevin to leave him.

Now she has Aaron and he's a convenient barrier to having Jack in her life, now that Sawyer is unavailable. So she's insisting after Jack's declaration of love that she can't even have an innocent coffee with him unless he comes to her house on her terms--because she knows he won't.

There's a parallel in her rejecting both men because they won't embrace the idea of her as mother as well as lover, but both stem from the fact that Kate is still emotionally born to run.

Cardie

I think Kate gets nervous when a man actually loves her and wants to be with her long term. All her running and waffling seems to indicate this. She was looking for a reason to bail on Sawyer's dream of playing house, so she can use his desire not to have a child to blow him off, just as she, oppositely, used the possibility of having a child with Kevin to leave him.

Now she has Aaron and he's a convenient barrier to having Jack in her life, now that Sawyer is unavailable. So she's insisting after Jack's declaration of love that she can't even have an innocent coffee with him unless he comes to her house on her terms--because she knows he won't.

There's a parallel in her rejecting both men because they won't embrace the idea of her as mother as well as lover, but both stem from the fact that Kate is still emotionally born to run.

Cardie

so do you think Kate can't get pregnant as per the title thread? Or do you think she potentially can and that just that if/when the possibility pops up she she uses it to keep running?

I think Kate gets nervous when a man actually loves her and wants to be with her long term. All her running and waffling seems to indicate this. She was looking for a reason to bail on Sawyer's dream of playing house, so she can use his desire not to have a child to blow him off, just as she, oppositely, used the possibility of having a child with Kevin to leave him.

Now she has Aaron and he's a convenient barrier to having Jack in her life, now that Sawyer is unavailable. So she's insisting after Jack's declaration of love that she can't even have an innocent coffee with him unless he comes to her house on her terms--because she knows he won't.

There's a parallel in her rejecting both men because they won't embrace the idea of her as mother as well as lover, but both stem from the fact that Kate is still emotionally born to run.

Cardie
Excellent analysis, Cardie. Sawyer saw it - that she was looking for an excuse and now she's got it. I similarly saw her using Aaron as a barrier between her and Jack, as well as between her and her mother. And it kind of clarifies her chagrin at the pregnancy test in her flashback with Kevin.

My feeling is that Kate can't get pregnant. I'm just not sure whether she knows it or did something to make sure she couldn't.

Cardie

I think Kate can get pregnant. We've seen her reaction after she took a pregnancy test while she was married to Kevin and we've seen her concern when she brings the subject up to Sawyer when they're all heading to the radio tower. There's no reason to imply she can if she can't. It just doesn't follow logically with the story line.

I think Kate's conflicted and was looking for a possible reason to stay on the island. She now knows for certain that the freighties know who she is and what she did so she is left with the choice of finding out how to escape when she gets home or stay put as Miles suggests. So she tests the waters with Sawyer and is disappointed that he wouldn't have been happy if she were pregnant. That's not the answer Kate wanted to hear from someone she was thinking of staying with on a mysterious island. It's all or nothing, or Kate runs.

I think she got her tubes tied after her pregnancy scare pre-island. Anyone else think that? She seemed positive. Her life was always about running running running, and I think she took matters into her own hands to make sure that she could never be tied down.

I think the reason she is so pissed at Sawyer is because she knows that they CAN'T ever have a child together.

Thoughts?


erm dude, the whole reason she was mad was because she wanted an excuse to go to Jack. Sawyer even said it and when he did he got a shlap!! lol