Might sound like a dumb question, but I haven't seen anyone else mention it.... that means only one more person to be revealed?

I can't remember.. did they say in the previews last week that we would find out another member of the Oceanic 6? We already knew Kate was one..

or are the O6 only people that were in the flight manifest? Which could mean that if it is for sure Claire's Aaron then he wouldn't count since he came along later.

Right, that's my question, Karri!

But lostgurl, I THINK the preview said that, but we know TPTB don't create the promos, and they often have mistakes, so we can't treat it as canon, I don't think.

I'm going to guess no.

If the world knew that many more than 8 people survived, it wouldn't be a surprise that someone might have had a child. But if only a few are being said to have lived, maybe they are protecting the fact that there were others by saying Aaron is Kates.

I think that Kate adopts Aaron when they get off the island, meaning that everyone knows that this boy is not her son but is Claire's and that Claire apparently died on the Island after the crash (during labor?).
The other thought that I originally had was that she was just pretending that she got pregnant on the island and that Aaron is her son (since she says "I have a son...My son..." a bunch of times). But that is wrong because Aaron is about how old there? 4? 5? No way she can pull it off that she got pregnant on the island and gave birth there.

A couple of questions that come out of this are:
1. When do they actually get off the island? Aaron is 4 or 5 but the trial has just started, which means they get off the island 3-4 years after the crash?

2. Since Aaron was on the flight, island, and now off the island, is he the 5th member of the Oceanic 6?

I don't know Laura, I'm thinking yes. I mean, how else could they explain Kate having a baby with her? He's too old to have been born after the crash. So he would have to be counted, right? :confused: In fact, I can't see WHY or HOW he wouldn't be counted. The press would be all over a baby being born on the island after a plane crash. Why would they be like "Oh, well, he's just a baby, so we won't include him in our count"???
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BTW, no way Aaron is 4 or 5 there. More like 2 1/2....

Ok, good point, Jenny. I see that.

Brainwave: I think Claire is meant to be one of the 2 that died. Jack says 8 originally lived. I think that Claire is said to have died in child birth, and that is how Kate comes to raise him. Especially since she is being played as the hero in Jack's story, she's the hero who raises the island baby, so to speak. And that's how they get away with him being SO blond.

Ok, good point, Jenny. I see that.

Brainwave: I think Claire is meant to be one of the 2 that died. Jack says 8 originally lived. I think that Claire is said to have died in child birth, and that is how Kate comes to raise him. Especially since she is being played as the hero in Jack's story, she's the hero who raises the island baby, so to speak. And that's how they get away with him being SO blond.

Wow that's good, it makes sense that way. On him being number 5 i think they are just counting the people that survived the crash.

I don't think they will make Aaron one of the Oceanic 6. It will be a waste of a spot.

My guess is that they are hiding the fact of how long they were on the island. Since we seem to know that they were on the island for less time than what the outside world believes it to be. At least that is my take of the 30ish minutes difference.

The baby could not be passed off as Claire's Aaron. If Island time and outside time were the same, then yes, I'd say they could say it was Claire's Aaron and she died.

Aaron seems to be 2 yrs or edging to 3 yrs to me.


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[quote=oclor;1775332]I think that Kate adopts Aaron when they get off the island, meaning that everyone knows that this boy is not her son but is Claire's and that Claire apparently died on the Island after the crash (during labor?).
The other thought that I originally had was that she was just pretending that she got pregnant on the island and that Aaron is her son (since she says "I have a son...My son..." a bunch of times). But that is wrong because Aaron is about how old there? 4? 5? No way she can pull it off that she got pregnant on the island and gave birth there.

A couple of questions that come out of this are:
1. When do they actually get off the island? Aaron is 4 or 5 but the trial has just started, which means they get off the island 3-4 years after the crash?

Great point iowalost, i forgot about the time difference. By the way, I'm in Iowa City :)

Nope... He doesn't count as one of the O6, b/c he wasn't on the plane.

I think Aaron is one of the Oceanic 6. That's what I gathered anyway. He might not have been on the manifest but he was certainly a survivor of Oceanic Plane crash.

That's what I gathered anyway.

I think Aaron would count either if it was Claire's or Kate's baby.

Although Desmond wasn't on the 815 flight and technically doesn't count as a Oceanic 6 I noticed that Desmond's hair looked very short when he was pushing Miles. So, either Desmond got a quick hair cut before this scene or this was a flash forward and Desmond get's off the island. I need to re-watch it again to make sure.
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Nope... He doesn't count as one of the O6, b/c he wasn't on the plane.

**Updated~ I went back and rewatched the promo for next week. Desmonds hair is very short, his beard is gone and his clothes are different. He is pushing Daniel (not miles like I thought in my earlier post...So to me this means Desmond gets off the island!!!! Woot!

So if Aaron wasn't on the plane then where was he sitting on the beach sucking his thumb? He was on the plane. LOL:biggrin:

I don't think Aaron would count as an O6 because he wasn't on the flight manifest. He was in utero, but not an official, boarding pass carrying, seat holding passenger.

The promo last week did say another member of O6 would be revealed, but it wouldn't be the first time that ABC messed up with a promo, promising something that isn't delivered.

BTW, no way Aaron is 4 or 5 there. More like 2 1/2....


Yeah, I agree, 2.5-3.5 max on the upper end.

I am not sure that the authorities would let a known felon adopt a baby.

I think that Kate is passing Aaron off as her own for some reason and that Jack was named as the father.

OK…the big “lie” of the Oceanic 6 is “obviously” (I say with tongue firmly in cheek) that only eight survived the crash and only six survived to be rescued. So who is SUPPOSED to be the father of “Kate’s” baby? I think they told everyone that Jack is the father…who else could it be? Hurley, Sayid or the unknown #6? This is assuming that Aaron is #5. That is why the DA asked if he was in love with her or still in love with her (can’t remember the exact dialogue). Love must have existed at some point for him to have “fathered” her child and would therefore make his testimony suspect. Kate put a quick stop to any questioning that would lead to revelations about their relationship on the island and the “product” of that relationship, namely Aaron. She was petrified to have his name brought into the procedings.

The previews from last week did say we would find out another person from O6. Since we already knew about Kate, it HAS to be Aaron.

no... i dont think Aaron is part of the oceanic 6
i think that the other 2 are Sun and Jin. Because the next flashfoward is about them

Seahawk chick, you cannot discuss previews without spoiler font unless you are in the preview section. Please don't spoil things for those of us who don't want to know!

Anyway, aside from speculating on whether Aaron is one of the O6, I'll just say that I hope he isn't, as that would be one less Lostie to have flashforwards and such.

Hmm, Aaron's biological father is still alive, isn't he? Wouldn't they rather give the baby to him, if it's claimed to be Claire's after the rescue? So my guess is that Kate will claim it as her's. On the other hand, the rest of the O6 have to go along with that too.

Aaron is absolutely one of the oceanic 6. while he wasn't on the manifest, he was on the plane and they said in the previews last week that another O6 would be revealed so i had been waiting throughout the episode to see who it was, and I couldn't believe it was Aaron!

It would be wild if Claire was one of the O6, and she somehow regressed from her maternal epiphany after the rescue, and decided to give up the baby after all. Hm, that might stretch credulity a bit.

Might sound like a dumb question, but I haven't seen anyone else mention it.... that means only one more person to be revealed?

I’m thinking he’s not counted. During his great lie on the witness stand, Jack stated that 8 people survived the crash but then two died. That would mean 6 were left who I would assume to be the O6. So I think Aaron is extra since he didn’t survive the crash, per say, and was born after.

I think that Kate adopts Aaron when they get off the island, meaning that everyone knows that this boy is not her son but is Claire's and that Claire apparently died on the Island after the crash (during labor?).
The other thought that I originally had was that she was just pretending that she got pregnant on the island and that Aaron is her son (since she says "I have a son...My son..." a bunch of times). But that is wrong because Aaron is about how old there? 4? 5? No way she can pull it off that she got pregnant on the island and gave birth there.

A couple of questions that come out of this are:
1. When do they actually get off the island? Aaron is 4 or 5 but the trial has just started, which means they get off the island 3-4 years after the crash?

2. Since Aaron was on the flight, island, and now off the island, is he the 5th member of the Oceanic 6?
Aaron isn't 4 or 5. First off it's in the middle of the day and he's in bed for a nap. 4 or 5 is too old for naps. Also, to me, he looks like he's 2. They've only been on the island for about what? 3 or 4 months, so Aaron's that old on the island. It will probably take longer than we think for them to "get off" the island and actually be home and settled. Then, she would have a trial set down the road. I was surprised at how long it's going to take to get off the island, but we have two more 16 episode seasons, plus the rest of this season, so they've got to have some stories going!
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Hmm, Aaron's biological father is still alive, isn't he? Wouldn't they rather give the baby to him, if it's claimed to be Claire's after the rescue? So my guess is that Kate will claim it as her's. On the other hand, the rest of the O6 have to go along with that too.
I think that when Kate was rescued however she came into taking care of Aaron, that the rescuers devised the plan that Aaron was her child. Between the Oceanic 6 and their rescuers, they know that Aaron is not hers and is adopted. She calls him "my son". I think that's what the episode was all about with Sawyer asking her if she's pregnant and she seemed a little sad that she wasn't even though she was afraid to pick up Aaron. Ultimately she ends up with a baby!
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Hmm, Aaron's biological father is still alive, isn't he? Wouldn't they rather give the baby to him, if it's claimed to be Claire's after the rescue? So my guess is that Kate will claim it as her's. On the other hand, the rest of the O6 have to go along with that too.
I think that when Kate was rescued however she came into taking care of Aaron, that the rescuers devised the plan that Aaron was her child. Between the Oceanic 6 and their rescuers, they know that Aaron is not hers and is adopted. She calls him "my son". I think that's what the episode was all about with Sawyer asking her if she's pregnant and she seemed a little sad that she wasn't even though she was afraid to pick up Aaron. Ultimately she ends up with a baby!

i still think that Sun and Jin completes the rest of the Oceanic 6. the new revealed is Kate...but we already knew it

He's a survivor, he was on the island... Is he one of the 6?

Whether or not he was born yet, I think he is still one of the oceanic 6, because they would not "rescue" 6 adults and a child and call them the oceanic 6, they would regardless if Aaron was born preflight or not, still be considered a survivor and therefore is one of the Oceanic 6.

News Flash- 6 adult passengers of the crashed Oceanic 815 were found alive today and a child was born while they were stranded on an island, 7 people have been rescued, lets refer to them as the Oceanic 6.

Don't make sense to me, Aaron is imo definitely one of the Oceanic 6.

I think that Kate is passing Aaron off as her own for some reason and that Jack was named as the father.
I don't see how it is possible timeline-wise for anyone to think Jack is the father, or for Kate to have conceived the baby on the island. It was said in the ep that they survived on the island for several months. While we know the public doesn't know the truth, they would have known if Kate was visibly pregnant when she was rescued. Since she wasn't pregnant, she'd had to have given birth on the island - before she met Jack. BUT, she wasn't visibly pregnant either when the marshall caught her. Hence, how can the world even think this is her child? When do they think she gave birth?

Ok, I guess that was OT. I guess the debate as to whether or not Aaron is labelled as O6 somewhat has to do with who creates that name in the first place. To me it sounds like a media thing, and I can't see the media not including the baby, even if he was in utero at the time. If anything, he should be the MOST talked about survivor.

But who are the two of the eight who Jack said didn't survive? I'm guessing, in this little phoney scenario of Jack's, that Sawyer is one of the two who dies on the Island so he can therefore be the "father" of Kate's baby in this mythology posed to the rest of the world. Yes, they would also have to lie about the baby's actual age so conception could have been on the Island. But lies and messing around with time is a staple of the Lost chaarcters so that is no big deal.

I know that might have been a little off-topic. Is there a thread for speculating who are the two that "didn't survive"?

Hmm, Aaron's biological father is still alive, isn't he? Wouldn't they rather give the baby to him, if it's claimed to be Claire's after the rescue? So my guess is that Kate will claim it as her's. On the other hand, the rest of the O6 have to go along with that too.

Thomas didn't want the baby and abandons Claire. Stupid Thomas.

It would be wild if Claire was one of the O6, and she somehow regressed from her maternal epiphany after the rescue, and decided to give up the baby after all. Hm, that might stretch credulity a bit.

I sure as hell hope that doesn't happen.

I don't see how it is possible timeline-wise for anyone to think Jack is the father, or for Kate to have conceived the baby on the island. It was said in the ep that they survived on the island for several months. While we know the public doesn't know the truth, they would have known if Kate was visibly pregnant when she was rescued. Since she wasn't pregnant, she'd had to have given birth on the island - before she met Jack. BUT, she wasn't visibly pregnant either when the marshall caught her. Hence, how can the world even think this is her child? When do they think she gave birth?

Ok, I guess that was OT. I guess the debate as to whether or not Aaron is labelled as O6 somewhat has to do with who creates that name in the first place. To me it sounds like a media thing, and I can't see the media not including the baby, even if he was in utero at the time. If anything, he should be the MOST talked about survivor.
My guess is that they are hiding the fact of how long they were on the island. Since we seem to know that they were on the island for less time than what the outside world believes it to be. At least that is my take of the 30ish minutes difference.

The baby could not be passed off as Claire's Aaron. If Island time and outside time were the same, then yes, I'd say they could say it was Claire's Aaron and she died.

Aaron seems to be 2 yrs or edging to 3 yrs to me.



I am not sure that the authorities would let a known felon adopt a baby.

I think that Kate is passing Aaron off as her own for some reason and that Jack was named as the father.

OK…the big “lie” of the Oceanic 6 is “obviously” (I say with tongue firmly in cheek) that only eight survived the crash and only six survived to be rescued. So who is SUPPOSED to be the father of “Kate’s” baby? I think they told everyone that Jack is the father…who else could it be? Hurley, Sayid or the unknown #6? This is assuming that Aaron is #5. That is why the DA asked if he was in love with her or still in love with her (can’t remember the exact dialogue). Love must have existed at some point for him to have “fathered” her child and would therefore make his testimony suspect. Kate put a quick stop to any questioning that would lead to revelations about their relationship on the island and the “product” of that relationship, namely Aaron. She was petrified to have his name brought into the procedings.

I am still unsure of Aaron being in the O6 or not but I'm leaning toward yes.

I just quoted 3 at once and am responding to all 3... I do think the time difference comes into play here. I think they are in 2008 or as late as 2010 in the FFs. Hence I think the world thinks that either
a) Jack is the father from having conceived Aaron on the island with Kate, or
b) Claire is reported as the mother, but is one of the 2 that supposedly died on the island, probably in child birth.

Sometimes I lean toward B, because Aaron is SO blond. Who would ever believe that Kate and Jack had that baby together?
Sometimes I lean toward A, because of the "Do you love her?" on the witness stand, and because of how adamently and often Kate calls him "my son." It sure SOUNDS like she considers Aaron her son at this point, and that Aaron thinks she is his mom, and that the world thinks that Aaron is her son.

It's all very creeepy, honestly.

I read an interview by Doc Jensen with Damon and Carlton where they said the episode would reveal one of the O6, so that makes Aaron the fifth.

I don't think they'd count him, he was just an infant when they left.

I know the previews said they would reveal one more of the 6. Yes that is not canon, but with the above post that Damon and Carlton also said that, well then it is either Aaron, or it is Kate as the reveal. We all say we knew Kate was one of the 6 from last season, but technically we do not know that. We knew she was off the island, but as we have seen you can be off the island like Ben was. I think we will see more people off the island that are not part of the Oceanic 6. So yes, either Aaron is the 5th or Kate is the 4th.

1. First off, children are people folks. Just because they are small doesn't mean they don't count.

2. As for how long since they have been rescued, Aaron calls Kate "mommy". Now along the same lines, children are not stupid. It would take awhile to teach a 2-3 year-old who his "mommy" is. Kate has been Aaron's "mommy" for awhile.

This adds up to Aaron is unquestionably one of the O6, and they were rescued awhile ago (or Kate assumed custody well before they left the island - which seems unlikely).

Sometimes I lean toward A, because of the "Do you love her?" on the witness stand, and because of how adamently and often Kate calls him "my son." It sure SOUNDS like she considers Aaron her son at this point, and that Aaron thinks she is his mom, and that the world thinks that Aaron is her son.
I think she's considers Aaron her son like a woman who adopts a child does - just because she knew Aaron's biological mom during his infancy wouldn't change that. Sometimes a woman dies IRL and the child gets raised by an aunt, who essentially becomes a second mother to him. That being said, I don't think Kate is in denial over the truth. To me, that is demonstrated by how she switches the way she talks about him to Jack (others have pointed this out elsewhere), that she calls him "my son" to her lawyer but not to Jack. Because Jack and she both know that he is not "her" biological son.
2. As for how long since they have been rescued, Aaron calls Kate "mommy". Now along the same lines, children are not stupid. It would take awhile to teach a 2-3 year-old who his "mommy" is. Kate has been Aaron's "mommy" for awhile.
I think when kids that young lose a parent they forget them relatively quickly. I think 6 months would be enough for a baby.

I'm still on the side of Aaron counting.

Let's do a quick count again...

1) Hurley
2) Jack
3) Kate

Who are we counting as #4? Sayid? Sayid and Desmond flew off together in the helicoptor. I do not believe either of them are counted as part of the O6. We now know that Sayid secretly works as a hit-man for Ben. I would think being easily identified and famous might get in the way of that profession. Desmond was never on Oceanic 815 so I do not think he is one of the O6. Also, from the end of 404, Jack is led to believe that the helicoptor never made it back to the freighter. So, I am dis-counting Sayid or Desmond as O6.

I do agree that Aaron is a survivor of the plane crash...even though he wasn't born yet or on the roster, he most certainly did survive the plane crash. In my list, I am going to count Aaron...

4) Aaron

But now I want to go back to Season 1 and see exactly what the fortune teller said about her baby again.

I think she's considers Aaron her son like a woman who adopts a child does - just because she knew Aaron's biological mom during his infancy wouldn't change that. Sometimes a woman dies IRL and the child gets raised by an aunt, who essentially becomes a second mother to him. That being said, I don't think Kate is in denial over the truth. To me, that is demonstrated by how she switches the way she talks about him to Jack (others have pointed this out elsewhere), that she calls him "my son" to her lawyer but not to Jack. Because Jack and she both know that he is not "her" biological son.

I think when kids that young lose a parent they forget them relatively quickly. I think 6 months would be enough for a baby.

I'm still on the side of Aaron counting.

Your posts keep swining me to your side. lol. Yes, you're right, she definitely speaks about Aaron differently when she's talking to Jack.

Let's do a quick count again...

1) Hurley
2) Jack
3) Kate

Who are we counting as #4? Sayid? Sayid and Desmond flew off together in the helicoptor. I do not believe either of them are counted as part of the O6. We now know that Sayid secretly works as a hit-man for Ben. I would think being easily identified and famous might get in the way of that profession. Desmond was never on Oceanic 815 so I do not think he is one of the O6. Also, from the end of 404, Jack is led to believe that the helicoptor never made it back to the freighter. So, I am dis-counting Sayid or Desmond as O6.

I do agree that Aaron is a survivor of the plane crash...even though he wasn't born yet or on the roster, he most certainly did survive the plane crash. In my list, I am going to count Aaron...

4) Aaron

But now I want to go back to Season 1 and see exactly what the fortune teller said about her baby again.

Uh, no, Sayid is DEFINITELY one of the O6. When he meets Elsa in the cafe "you don't know who I am?". He's famous. As someone said somewhere (I have no idea where), Sayid is sort of a James Bond character, in that he walks around quite visibly... talking to people, giving people his name, being all good looking and such... but his job is to kill people and he manages to get away with it.

Let's do a quick count again...

1) Hurley
2) Jack
3) Kate

Who are we counting as #4? Sayid? Sayid and Desmond flew off together in the helicoptor. I do not believe either of them are counted as part of the O6. We now know that Sayid secretly works as a hit-man for Ben. I would think being easily identified and famous might get in the way of that profession. Desmond was never on Oceanic 815 so I do not think he is one of the O6. Also, from the end of 404, Jack is led to believe that the helicoptor never made it back to the freighter. So, I am dis-counting Sayid or Desmond as O6.

I do agree that Aaron is a survivor of the plane crash...even though he wasn't born yet or on the roster, he most certainly did survive the plane crash. In my list, I am going to count Aaron...

4) Aaron

But now I want to go back to Season 1 and see exactly what the fortune teller said about her baby again.
In the Economist when Sayid meets that man on the golf course, the man asks him what he does for a living and Sayid responds, nothing. He then says that he is an Oceanic 6 survivor. That is when the man flips out. Kate, Jack, Hurley, Sayid and maybe Aaron......

I know there has been lots of speculation that Aaron is one of the six but I don't believe that he is. Why? Like Ben, his name wasn't on the manifest. He hadn't been born yet when the plane crashed. As to what happened to Claire or how Aaron ended up with Kate, I have no clue; but I'm not ready to count him as one of the six just yet. :cool:

I know there has been lots of speculation that Aaron is one of the six but I don't believe that he is. Why? Like Ben, his name wasn't on the manifest. He hadn't been born yet when the plane crashed. As to what happened to Claire or how Aaron ended up with Kate, I have no clue; but I'm not ready to count him as one of the six just yet. :cool:

Yeah, this is definitely a messy situation.

The manifest probably identified Claire as being pregnant. However, Claire doesn't seem to "make it back" for some reason.

However, Kate emerges with child -- even mom believes him to be Kate's. So this leads one to believe they had to be stranded on the island for some time -- we know about 93 days but possibly years -- in order for Kate to get pregnant and then give birth.

The "official story" said that 8 people intially survived the crash. My bet is that Sawyer is one of the 8 and that he is supposedly the father of Kate's Aaron. But anyway you slice it I don't think Aaron can be considered one of the Oceanic 6.

(Just to be clear I posted something contrary, in a thread I don't remember, last night which I now reject after further thought.)

ASi I stated in a different thread, I think Aaron is one of the oceanic 6, even if 6 adults on the manifest were rescued and a baby not on it too, they would not neglect the baby when penning the phrase Oceanic 6. Thats just my opinion, but I think Aaron is one of the 6. Oceanic 6 does not necessarily mean only oceanic survivors its just people that were rescued and the majority of which were on a crashed oceanic flight where everyone was presumed dead. Otherwise it would be called the Oceanic 6 and a baby.
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I think Aaron is one of the O6, I dont think they would neglect counting the child as a survivor just because he was not bron when they crashed, he was still on the flight.

Aaron is ... I'll tell you if he is one of the O6 or not .. And i'm absolutely sure! PM me if you wanna know !

Might sound like a dumb question, but I haven't seen anyone else mention it.... that means only one more person to be revealed?

I was just going to start a thread on this but got lucky and was able to find this one first. I don't think that it's a dumb question at all. My opinion was that he would not be one of the six - that the six referenced would only refer to six that walked onto the plane and walked off of the island. I was interested in what everyone else thought, but I guess I'll find out when I read the rest of the thread. =) Nice thread.
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BTW, no way Aaron is 4 or 5 there. More like 2 1/2....

Hmm... I've really been thinking, after seeing all kinds of different ages postulated on the various threads, that Aaron is really only about 1 1/2 actually... at 2 1/2 he'd be doing a lot more than saying "mama". At 4 or 5, he'd be about in KINDERGARTEN and not taking naps in a crib... LOL :rolleyes: Nor being picked up like that by KATE. LOL =)
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Whether or not he was born yet, I think he is still one of the oceanic 6, because they would not "rescue" 6 adults and a child and call them the oceanic 6, they would regardless if Aaron was born preflight or not, still be considered a survivor and therefore is one of the Oceanic 6.

News Flash- 6 adult passengers of the crashed Oceanic 815 were found alive today and a child was born while they were stranded on an island, 7 people have been rescued, lets refer to them as the Oceanic 6.

Don't make sense to me, Aaron is imo definitely one of the Oceanic 6.

But it does make sense if more than just the O6 make it off. If Desmond, perhaps Juliet make it off, they would only refer to the 6 adults that survived the crash as the O6. Aaron, Desmond, Juliet, whomever else would just be others that made it off that island. To the rest of the world, the plane crash, and the ultimate reveal that there were survivors when thought otherwise, is the big news - not that people were living on an uncharted island in the Pacific.

Maybe Aaron is #6

Halfway down the page screencap of Aaron's room clearly there's a 6 of clubs in the picture on the wall & the clue (I guess) was the 6 of clubs in the middle of the cards Dan was trying to guess.

http://losteastereggs.blogspot.com/

Here's my take, Claire was one of the 8 that survived the crash, died during child birth or shortly after, asked Kate to take care of Aaron, before she died because Kate was a hero, this is the story everyone was told, I do think Aaron is considered one of the survivors even though he was not born until after the crash whether or not he is considered one of the O6, is anyones guess, I don't think he is.

Maybe Aaron is #6

Halfway down the page screencap of Aaron's room clearly there's a 6 of clubs in the picture on the wall & the clue (I guess) was the 6 of clubs in the middle of the cards Dan was trying to guess.

http://losteastereggs.blogspot.com/

This looks like a 7 of spades to me on the wall.

Here's my take, Claire was one of the 8 that survived the crash, died during child birth or shortly after, asked Kate to take care of Aaron, before she died because Kate was a hero, this is the story everyone was told, I do think Aaron is considered one of the survivors even though he was not born until after the crash whether or not he is considered one of the O6, is anyones guess, I don't think he is.


I'm willing to bet that the whole "8 survivors" thing is just part of the lie that Jack and the others have had to tell.

Definately looks like a 7 to me too. Maybe the 7 implies that there are more off the island than people know about? I think I would be disappointed if Aaron was one of the 6. Surely there is more story to be told having someone else survive.

Maybe, upon being rescued, Kate tells the authorities she was already three months pregnant when the plane crashed, and Kate claims to have given birth to Aaron prematurely (2-3 months premature)?

So Kate passes Aaron off as her own, and simply claims she doesn't know who the father is for certain.

In this week's podcast, Darlton make it clear that, yes, there is a question of whether Aaron is one of the 6 or not, but by the end of this pod of episode's, there will be no confusion of who the O6 is. And just in case, at the end of the pod of episodes, they will name who the 6 are.

Haha, that "just in case" part made me laugh. Can it really not be clear enough, so that they have to explain it to us? Argh! And you know how I love Darlton!