I'm sorry, but Kate's mom has to be the worst character ever. I mean come on, she turns in her own freaking daughter, and doesn't feel guilty about it at all for how many years, and then she tries to come bk to kate's life just to see her grandson? why not just be like "sorry kate for trying to get you jail for life, but can i see my grandson anyway?"

anyone else think "you gave up ur right to all parental/grandparental instincts when you decided to give up your daughter!" i mean seriously, what kate did was bad, horrible, and all that, but theres some people who are sitll supposed to love you unconditionally. your mother is one of those people.

Yea it's pretty crappy to turn in your daughter for killing your abusive husband. Then to only come back when your dying and try to get to see your grandson.

I think Kate's mom is very believeable. To think that a woman gave up their family for some POS man is very beleiveable. Im a psych nurse, I see this level of disfuction and whacked priorities everyday...

I've always hated her character. But I'm glad you mentioned the grandson thing, because I was thinking we were meant to be believe that part of the O6 cover story is that Aaron's birth mom died giving birth on the island and that Kate has been raising him (she's a hero, blah blah blah). But would Diane be THAT interested in seeing an adopted son? I could be wrong, just a question. I would think it would be more of a flesh-and-blood grand-parental feeling.

I have ALWAYS hated Kate's mom she reminded me too much of my sister's BFF's mom.

She too chose a man over her kids. Not the whole murder thing but she let "stepdaddy"
abuse (beat) and molest her children. Her reasoning " Well he brings in a GOOD CHECK."

Kate's mom reminds me alot of ( I'll call her) Abby. Abby chose her hubby over her kids one (a boy), hubby beat and would lock outside to sleep in the cold. The other he beat and molested (a girl). When BFF turned stepdaddy into the LAW he got a slap on the wrist and the law took the kids to grandma's. Abby decided to wait the short time hubby got in jail then picked him over her kids. So she also chose to have NEW babies because hubby would do better with his OWN kids. Wouldn't he? :undecide: UGHH No hubby did the same to his OWN babies and still she stayed. People are sick. The writers got that dynamic down to a T.

i too knew a woman who had a kid with an abusive *** who beat her and the kid, then when she finalyl divorced him, she married another guy, who wa sjust as abusive, the only difference is he owuld only beat her son. so when the son turned 18 the step dad kicked the son out of the house and she went along with it, she chose her "happy marriage" over her son. if she could read the instructions on a pack of condoms she wouldnt even have a son.

I've always hated her mom and still do.

I don't understand why Kate's lawyer didn't focus more on Kate's broken home life as part of her defense. I know they probably didn't want to make that the focus of the episode, but just a mention of it during the trial would have reminded us of the context and added more realism to the trial. It would have added poignancy to Kate's happiness at being a mother.

I'm sorry, but Kate's mom has to be the worst character ever. .

No, I don't hate Kate's mom, but I dislike Kate immensely. She's such a user! Every time I see her I get a creepy feeling up my spine...just like when I see...no wait, I shouldn't say anything political here, right? :rolleyes:

No, I don't agree, cuz I know where Kate's mom is coming from. IMO, bugirll spoke true. Abusive men know just how to manipulate feelings so that a woman thinks everything is her fault. They (the men) are always the "innocent" ones. Makes me sick.

No, I don't hate Kate's mom, but I dislike Kate immensely. She's such a user! Every time I see her I get a creepy feeling up my spine...just like when I see...no wait, I shouldn't say anything political here, right? :rolleyes:

No, I don't agree, cuz I know where Kate's mom is coming from. IMO, bugirll spoke true. Abusive men know just how to manipulate feelings so that a woman thinks everything is her fault. They (the men) are always the "innocent" ones. Makes me sick.

lol, i cant deny that kate is horrible. but kate's mom has no leg to stand on, she gets with an abusive man, and then gives up her daughter. she's done nothing good or redeamable.

and for every man who manipulates a woman, there is at least one woman out there who manipulates a man. sometimes that woman manipulates many men, as kate has shown time and time again. it has nothing to do with men or women, it has to do with good or bad person.

I was thinking we were meant to be believe that part of the O6 cover story is that Aaron's birth mom died giving birth on the island and that Kate has been raising him (she's a hero, blah blah blah). But would Diane be THAT interested in seeing an adopted son? I could be wrong, just a question. I would think it would be more of a flesh-and-blood grand-parental feeling.

I agree; I don't think she'd be as interested in seeing an adopted son before her death. What she wants to know is that their bloodline will be carried on after she's gone. [Almost] everyone wants to see their grandchildren. I wonder if Diane thinks the baby is really Kate's? Weren't they on the Island for only about 3 months? So how could Kate possibly bring back a toddler when she wasn't even preggers in Australia?

Some interesting questions, to be sure.

Well not COMPLETELY...
but I do HATE asparagus.

I find it really amazing the lengths people will go through to rationalize Kate murdering her stepfather. Barring future flashbacks, he didn't to anything worthy of being burned alive. Kate is a bad person and TPTB show her to be a bad person at every turn, but some fans just want to pretend she never killed anyone. Go figure.

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and for every man who manipulates a woman, there is at least one woman out there who manipulates a man. sometimes that woman manipulates many men, as kate has shown time and time again. it has nothing to do with men or women, it has to do with good or bad person.
Yes, Kate has certainly shown that to us over & over.
But I guess I wasn't clear--what I'm trying to say is that an abusive man will manipulate "his" woman so that she always thinks everything is her fault, that she can never survive on her own, etc.

I think that when Diane was in the hospital and she screamed, she really was afraid of what Kate might be capable of doing next.

Yep..

Oh yeah I think she's a terrible mom. I thanked my mom after this episode for not being anything like evil Diane (my mom gets to be the good Diane). Even if my mom disagreed with my action I am confident she would never turn me over to the law. I suddenly realize this makes us sound like some shady crime loving family. lol. It just seems really crappy for the evil Diane to come back after what she has done and want to be grandma now. She made the choice to abandon Kate but now expects Kate to want to be a happy family.

I think Kate's mom is very believeable. To think that a woman gave up their family for some POS man is very beleiveable. Im a psych nurse, I see this level of disfuction and whacked priorities everyday...

I absolutely agree. And unlike others in this thread, I wouldn't say I hate her for turning Kate in. That's to be expected of someone like this. If anything, I hate her for the whole mindset in which a mother favors some man over her own daughter. True, this was Kate's sperm donor, but Kate was never told that, so as far as she was concerned, this was her mother's husband who abused her mother and her, vnot her own father (which wouldn't be better, either).

As for Kate's father (I'd never call the person she killed her "father"), why wasn't he at the trial? Kate went to see him while she was on the run. They seemed close. I'm surprised the prosecution didn't want him as a witness.