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woland
02-21-2008, 11:49 PM
The scene in the boathouse between Miles and Locke ranks with the best Locke moments. It captured all the lunacy and misplaced care of John Locke. Locke had questioned his abilities after Ben's mind games, and Ben did have a point, Locke does need someone to tell him what to do, he went to Sawyer for reasssurance. He took his frustration out on Kate and then Miles, who he went to extremes, because he needed to feel powerful and because Miles is the enemy. People wrote since last weeks episode that they hoped Miles would get beaten up, somehow this was better. He treated the losties as beneath him, "don't treat me like one of them" and the grenade in the mouth was Locke's way of establishing his authority and communicating that the losties shouldn't be underestimated. I couldn't help but feel a little sorry for Miles, he seems to be a low level hustler in way, way over his head.

benmanrocky
02-21-2008, 11:59 PM
That was an awesome Locke moment. I bet thats not a live grenade though, Locke just doing it to scare Miles. He needs answers from him he wouldn't risk
killing him.

Eight
02-22-2008, 12:10 AM
That was a classic moment!!!

I also happen to love the show "The Office." Every week there is one moement that makes you just cringe -- I think they have taken that concept from Lost because that grenade in the mouth was a very CRINGE moment!!!

LOL

woland
02-22-2008, 12:20 AM
That was an awesome Locke moment. I bet thats not a live grenade though, Locke just doing it to scare Miles. He needs answers from him he wouldn't risk
killing him.
I thought it was active(is that the right word for a grenade?) but I thought Locke would pull it out or put the pin back in, but knowing Locke it's probably loaded.

Distress Signal
02-22-2008, 12:22 AM
I thought it was active(is that the right word for a grenade?) but I thought Locke would pull it out or put the pin back in, but knowing Locke it's probably loaded.

Knowing Locke, the gun he had that Jack shot him in the face with wasn't loaded. He probably didn't load the grenade either.

Jynes
02-22-2008, 12:24 AM
Yes that was a great scene

StrangeDay
02-22-2008, 12:25 AM
Terry O'Quinn proved he deserved the emmy with that scene, I had chills.

best TV moment ever

AyEyE
02-22-2008, 12:26 AM
That was awesome! In the next scene with Kate and Sawyer I kept expecting to hear an explosing any second. :D

woland
02-22-2008, 12:32 AM
Knowing Locke, the gun he had that Jack shot him in the face with wasn't loaded. He probably didn't load the grenade either.
Actually the gun was fully loaded, in TTLG Locke opened the chamber and every chamber was loaded, Locke only fired 1-2 bullets at Jack at the radio tower so the gun should've been loaded. Locke even said, "it's not loaded" after Jack pulled the trigger. So there we get into one of the mystical aspects of the island questions.

LostinMT
02-22-2008, 12:45 AM
To weigh in on the loaded/unloaded grenade debate, I'd have to vote for not loaded. Their is no way Miles would be able to hold that in his mouth forever, and Locke is going to make him sweat it out. He wants Miles at the last moment to think he's going to die. Just like Ben, Locke's learning to manipulate people better.

DonWidmore
02-22-2008, 12:50 AM
I liked seeing nerdy Locke back again. that sense of, "I'm invincible" followed by "I feel like I work at the box factory again."

Irishcoda
02-22-2008, 01:05 AM
LOL I sure hope it's not loaded, how long can a person keep a grenade in his or her mouth? The jaws get tired, muscles jump--I actually felt a little sorry for Miles. Locke is scary!

Brian825
02-22-2008, 01:10 AM
That was an awesome Locke moment. I bet thats not a live grenade though, Locke just doing it to scare Miles. He needs answers from him he wouldn't risk
killing him.

I don't know, this is the same guy that sliced and diced Naomi. John Locke is such a bad *** that I don't think he'd hesitate in the least at blowing Miles' dome clean off.

At any rate, "enjoy your breakfast." :D

Earendil
02-22-2008, 01:11 AM
Actually the gun was fully loaded, in TTLG Locke opened the chamber and every chamber was loaded, Locke only fired 1-2 bullets at Jack at the radio tower so the gun should've been loaded. Locke even said, "it's not loaded" after Jack pulled the trigger. So there we get into one of the mystical aspects of the island questions.

But we don't know if he unloaded the gun before confronting Jack. He probably knew that Jack was pissed and at his breaking point so took the bullets out. Or it was loaded and it was just a misfire and Locke lied about it not being loaded.

swtheart545
02-22-2008, 01:16 AM
It was a great moment, absolutely sick and officially put Locke over the line, but it was very intense and i'm curious to see how this turns out. Miles doesnt seem the type to spill the beans, but with crazy Locke after him he might have to (not that I object I want some answers too).

woland
02-22-2008, 01:35 AM
I lean toward the grenade being loaded because as Brian825 said Locke did knife Naomi in the back. Plus he views Miles as the enemy and he would view shoving a loaded grenade in someone's mouth as teaching them a lesson. I thought he was cruel to Kate when he banished her, turns out she got off easy. Miles said as soon as they got the call saying they were survivors of Oceanic 815 they compiled files on the entire passenger list. So it is all Jack's fault. Just kidding only trying to anger the Jack fans.

Confidence-Man
02-22-2008, 03:47 AM
This was the best scene of the night, I liked seeing Locke establishing himself as a true leader, and I also like seeing Miles wet himself:)

NathanielStarr
02-22-2008, 03:53 AM
If we get one answer from Miles because of this grenade trick I will praise the bald one for the rest of the season. But do you think the writers will actually give us something?

Imagine if someone gave us something, straight up, non-cryptic for once? It doesn't have to be anything big, but what if Miles just said something like "I'm here because I can talk to the dead and Widmore wants me to talk to Jacob" or something like that.

sier
02-22-2008, 03:56 AM
You can't "unload" a grenade without a drilling a big glaring hole in the bottom of it and emptying out the powder (just look at grenades in Army/Navy stores). Unless Dharma has prop grenades...

dtisme
02-22-2008, 04:01 AM
Unless Dharma has prop grenades...

But then they'd be white with black lettering and a Dharma logo.

lostcompletely
02-25-2008, 06:12 PM
This was the best scene of the night, I liked seeing Locke establishing himself as a true leader, and I also like seeing Miles wet himself:)

I don't think harming/scaring people is the mark of a good leader...It was a good scene, but it was a very disturbing scene, and though I still feel kinda sorry for Locke in some ways, I sure haven't been liking him very much lately - to me, he's been way too much bumbling, blind faith idiot combined with scary dictator - a bad combo (though Terry sure does a fantastic job of portraying the character)

Fintrainer
02-25-2008, 06:19 PM
I don't think harming/scaring people is the mark of a good leader...

But its worked in the US for the past 6.5 years... LOL!

woland
02-25-2008, 07:57 PM
There could be a method to Jim Jones madness, so far the freighties have condescended to the losties, Miles, "don't treat me like I'm one of them." Charlotte's enthusiastic "There are about a million questions I want to ask you." And they seem to be underestimating the losties, unaware that they just defeated the most powerful people on the island. When word gets back to the freighties about the grenade in the mouth they may think twice about threatening the losties.

i_wana_get_lost_with_starla
02-25-2008, 08:10 PM
It was a great scene woland, and im betting 2 fish biscuits that the grenade is "live".
Locke is PO, and right now.. you dont want to FW him ; ). He's a bad mamajama.