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JoZay
02-22-2008, 06:43 AM
Because Kate said it rather softly, I re-wound my tape several times with the volume up to hear the baby's name. I swear I kept hearing a "C" at the end of it. Thought to myself, who's the father & why did she name him Eric. ?

I'm confoosed. :confused:

Is it really Aaron or did Kate lie to Sawyer when she told him she wasn't preggers?

Maybe thats why Jack doesn't want to see the baby, cuz he's bothered that its Sawyer's kid?

scubagert
02-22-2008, 08:12 AM
Closed captioning says Aaron. I thought she said Eric at the beginning too but that didn't make any sense why that would be such a big surprise to end the epi on. It was definitely Aaron.

Me
02-22-2008, 08:41 AM
That is funny that you say that because I heard Eric too.
Not until I rewound it and put subtitles on did it come up Aaron

hiltop
02-22-2008, 08:56 AM
*Raises hand* I thought she said Eric too. It wasn't until I got on the Lage this morning and saw that everyone is saying it is Aaron.

Jacob_Loves_Me
02-22-2008, 09:15 AM
ditto on hearing 'Eric'... but definitely rewound several times and heard Aaron

cbear80
02-22-2008, 09:20 AM
I thought she said Eric too... and my mind was racing back to when they took Kate and Saywer and put them in the cages.

Remember, when Ben dressed her up all pretty, and Kate wouldn't tell Sawyer what they did. I think they tried to impregnate her for future experiements.

Doesn't really explain why the kid is around 4.. unless she had the baby on the island.

Kate didn't know what they did to her, so she and everyone else thinks it is Saywers.. which is why Jack doesn't want to see him.

I guess that idea got thrown out the window, when everyone said she called the baby Aaron. Which means, that is Jacks nephew!!!

Me
02-22-2008, 09:22 AM
who ever he is he is only around 2 - 2/12

lostlocke
02-22-2008, 09:24 AM
really, I heard Aaron right away and I just looked at my sister and i couldn't believe it! This is the OMG moment I've been waiting to see. How did she end up with Aaron and why do they have to lie about her being his mother. It's so creepy!

FoolCrzy
02-22-2008, 09:27 AM
I was pretty certain I heard "Eric". Even after rewinding. Also, whatever his name is, He didn't look 4 years old to me.

eengert
02-22-2008, 09:32 AM
I heard "Eric" as well. But I couldn't figure out why that would be considered a reveal. Then I thought, Oh! She must've said Aaron. But listening again I clearly hear Eric.

So how about this: The child is Aaron (HAS to be), but she renamed him Eric, which is close to his original name, but hides him a bit.

By the way, I have a boy who is now 4 1/2 and Aaron/Eric is well older than 2 1/2. I was guessing 4.

LostMyMarbles
02-22-2008, 09:39 AM
I thought I was the only one. I definitely heard Eric. I rewound it twice and heard it the same way. However, I'm hard of hearing. My family heard Aaron--they had to explain to me what the bombshell was.

Me
02-22-2008, 11:14 AM
I just watched it at the ABC site. Turned up my speakers all the way and she does say Aaron.
I'll watch it on my DVR again and see if it is different.

HeadFirstForHalos
02-22-2008, 03:28 PM
If the closed captioning says "Aaron", then rewatching/listening to it is kinda pointless right? It's Aaron. Go with it.

lchromak
02-22-2008, 04:12 PM
I heard eric as well. But why would they end the episode like that with the look in her eyes and the music. Also why would kate ask did you keep him away from the television? He seems much too young to understand what was going on. ALso why put him on the stand? What would that prove?
Maybe that Kate is such a changed person that she adopted Aaron and is now taking care of him?

Me
02-22-2008, 04:16 PM
I don't think they wanter to put the baby on the stand.
I think they just wanted to have him in court to invoke an image of a reposable loving mother figure.
He was the sympathy card

Lockefan
02-22-2008, 04:17 PM
Because Kate said it rather softly, I re-wound my tape several times with the volume up to hear the baby's name. I swear I kept hearing a "C" at the end of it. Thought to myself, who's the father & why did she name him Eric. ?

I'm confoosed. :confused:

Is it really Aaron or did Kate lie to Sawyer when she told him she wasn't preggers?

Maybe thats why Jack doesn't want to see the baby, cuz he's bothered that its Sawyer's kid?

Duuuuude, she said "Aaron". ...Then again, bear in mind that I was one of the leaders on the wrong side of the Great Either/Neither Debate of 2007, so take my word for it with a grain of salt *lol*! Actually, your post is interesting to me because I have another LOSTie bud who told me earlier today she thought Kate said "Goodnight, Eric". But I (for what it's worth *lol*) am POSITIVE she said Aaron.

That little towheaded child is so totally and utterly our little Aaron, a.k.a., Turniphead.

:smile:

chisdavis
02-22-2008, 07:03 PM
This makes two weeks in a row where I wasn't able to make out what was said in the final scene. Last week, I could barely understand what Sayid was saying to Ben, and this week I misheard Kate and thought she said "Eric" instead of "Aaron".
My mother called me right after and she didn't heard what Kate said either and we both had to get online to figure it out.

Anyone else having this problem? I listen to Lost LOUDLY through 5.1.

LostFanLaura
02-22-2008, 07:08 PM
Yes, I thought it was Eric too. Hubby had to tell me it was Aaron.

Maybe hearing aids are in order for the 2 of us???

BillToons
02-22-2008, 07:13 PM
I have it recorded but haven't re-watched the epi yet but after reading this board today it seems that something was said concerning the baby's name. I can't watch it right now but will jump to that scene as soon as I can,

Sam G
02-23-2008, 01:57 AM
Heard Eric the first time too. Had to go back and listen again. I think it's Evie's Canadian accent.

i_wana_get_lost_with_starla
02-23-2008, 02:01 AM
I heard Aaron.
I cant believe so many people heard "Eric", wow. Whats going on here?
I wonder... did different parts of the country get dub versions?? nah, that would just be crazy.. right?? lol





"Driveshaft, more like Suckshaft"

Electromagnetic Anomoly
02-23-2008, 02:03 AM
Wow!!!!!
Hearing "Eric" took the WTF moment out of that episode for some of you, huh?!

I crank the surround sound every time LOST comes on, I don't miss a syllable.

Andok
02-23-2008, 02:13 AM
I heard Eric too, I turned to my wife and said, who the hell is Eric? She said, Kate said Aaron, not Eric. (I was anticipating her to say Aaron and so listened closely and still I heard Eric)

i_wana_get_lost_with_starla
02-23-2008, 02:33 AM
I heard Eric too, I turned to my wife and said, who the hell is Eric? She said, Kate said Aaron, not Eric. (I was anticipating her to say Aaron and so listened closely and still I heard Eric)

lmao.
This is very weird.
WTF

Coca-Cola1
02-23-2008, 03:05 AM
I also heard ERIC and mentioned this on another thread yesterday. Now why are so many of us hearing the same thing? It's funny I heard ERIC but immedialey thought it was Aaron even though I heard ERIC???? I wonder if there could be some sort of programming going on that made so many of us here ERIC. To many people for this to be an accident.

joco
02-23-2008, 03:17 AM
Hello,
I knew it was Aaron from the blond hair, but I also heard Eric and had to rewind, then I thought I heard Aaron . On my second veiwing I heard Eric again, then rewound several times and kept hearing Eric each time. It is odd that scene wasn't reshot or dubbed if so many uf us heard Eric as the editors must have heard eric as well.

lockesmithe
02-23-2008, 03:26 AM
I knew it was Aaron, but I was curious to hear what you Eric people were talking about. I've re-watched the end of the episode, and I can see how people heard the word, "Eric." Odd that it wasn't re-dubbed, especially given its significance. Perhaps working on the audio and knowing what was said allowed those involved to hear Aaron clearly.

i_wana_get_lost_with_starla
02-23-2008, 03:36 AM
I heard Aaron the first time I watched it, but I had to rewatch it again to see what's with the Eric thing.
I still heard Aaron again, but.. its also sounds very close to ERIN imo.
my order would be 1. Aaron 2. Erin and then 3. Eric

JBauer24
02-23-2008, 06:13 AM
You guys are nuts, she clearly says 'Aaron'. I mean there's not even any ambiguity about it. It doesn't sound anything like 'Eric'. 'Erin', maybe, but there is no 'C' sound whatsoever.

JoZay
02-23-2008, 06:35 AM
You guys are nuts, she clearly says 'Aaron'. I mean there's not even any ambiguity about it. It doesn't sound anything like 'Eric'. 'Erin', maybe, but there is no 'C' sound whatsoever.

Excuse me but we who heard Eric are not nuts.

Even though Kate was speaking to the child softy I re-wound & heard Eric repeatedly.

And what is the difference (sound) about Aaron & Erin anyway? Both spellings are pronounced the same way.

-DJ-
02-23-2008, 08:30 AM
haha! I heard "Eric" too! and my mom was like "what a lovely name to name your child, little eric" and we had to replay is 10 times to hear what it was and eventually "Aaron" struck us....

Coca-Cola1
02-23-2008, 08:31 AM
I thought she said Eric too... and my mind was racing back to when they took Kate and Saywer and put them in the cages.

Remember, when Ben dressed her up all pretty, and Kate wouldn't tell Sawyer what they did. I think they tried to impregnate her for future experiements.

Doesn't really explain why the kid is around 4.. unless she had the baby on the island.

Kate didn't know what they did to her, so she and everyone else thinks it is Saywers.. which is why Jack doesn't want to see him.

I guess that idea got thrown out the window, when everyone said she called the baby Aaron. Which means, that is Jacks nephew!!!


You know you just made me think of somethng. What if he is a Aaron only a duplicate Aaron like the two rabitts in the orchid film. They did some experiement on KATE and they also had Clair at one point. hmmmmmmmmmmmmm Kate did want to leave the island and she did seem upset that Sawyer did'nt want a child.

childrenofsteel
02-23-2008, 09:04 AM
You know you just made me think of somethng. What if he is a Aaron only a duplicate Aaron like the two rabitts in the orchid film. They did some experiement on KATE and they also had Clair at one point. hmmmmmmmmmmmmm Kate did want to leave the island and she did seem upset that Sawyer did'nt want a child.

WOW!!! That's the most compelling theory I've heard on the baby Aaron question...and would explain Jack's aversion to being with the baby...He may, as a doctor, have ethical problems with "not real Aaron". Maybe Locke's comment to Ben in the beginning of Eggtown about the "last two eggs" was a reference to the two matching babies???
It's definately way out there, but fascinating theory!!!

Chrysander
02-23-2008, 09:18 AM
The non-british characters on lost all seem to pronounce
it "Eron". So when she pronounced it in the way that she did, I was used to it. But here in the UK, we don't pronounce it that way at all. The a is like in cat or trap or snap. It's the same kind of difference with the character Tara in Buffy. They pronounce it like Tera, whilst in the UK it is tah-rah. You get used to hearing it a certain way though, in a series.

Zelda
02-23-2008, 11:12 AM
My sister, her friends, and my mom-mom all heard 'Eric' too. My mom heard Aaron. And I just heard a jumble of sounds that could have been either.

I assumed blond hair = Sawyer's kid. Or maybe something had happened to Claire's Aaron, and Kate named her kid after him.

I want to know how Aaron could have testified too. Or, would they have just brought him, and been like "This is the kid Kate raised on the island..."

Chrysander
02-23-2008, 11:14 AM
Why would they play creepy music if all she said was "eric"? Eric has no meaning whatsoever - the reason the music was creepy is because we find out the name of the kid, which is Aaron

Sam G
02-23-2008, 11:19 AM
In General: If you heard Aaron that's great. (No need to comment)

It seems more than a few people heard Eric and I believe that's what the thread is discussing.

Chrysander
02-23-2008, 11:22 AM
I believe I am discussing it; it does sound like Eric, given the way the characters pronounce it, but my point - as part of the discussion - is that the music accompanying her line was creepy. If she said "Eric", then the use of that music is completely bizarre, which is why it seems more likely to be Aaron. If you think the music choice makes sense to accompany "Eric", that's great.

Mr. Find
02-23-2008, 11:25 AM
.... Maybe Locke's comment to Ben in the beginning of Eggtown about the "last two eggs" was a reference to the two matching babies???


Oh, like that one! I'm going to have to watch this episode again. As Locke said, in that same scene, "You might catch something you missed the second time around." :)

Sam G
02-23-2008, 11:27 AM
Chrysander,

Sorry, I didn't mean it to seem I was addressing you. I've edited my comment to make it cleared.

toddintexas
02-23-2008, 11:39 AM
I heard "Aaron", but I can see how some people might have heard "Eric". In CD when Dan's caretaker first said "Dan" there were alot of people, including me, who thought she had said Sam (find 815 pollution!) and I had to rewatch it many times to be able to tell the difference, and Aaron-Eric sounds alot more similar than Sam-Dan.

BLUEFROGBOOGIE
02-23-2008, 11:50 AM
Next week's pop-ups should take care of any question as to the name. I was also thinking that maybe "Eric/Aaron" is a clone of Aaron
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Aaron-Mountain of Strength, Moses brother
Eric-Complete Ruler

Chew on this

Mr. Find
02-23-2008, 12:08 PM
You know you just made me think of somethng. What if he is a Aaron only a duplicate Aaron like the two rabitts in the orchid film. They did some experiement on KATE and they also had Clair at one point. hmmmmmmmmmmmmm Kate did want to leave the island and she did seem upset that Sawyer did'nt want a child.

That angle is interesting enough that I felt compelled to rewatch the scene again. I was hoping Aaron's shirt would have had the number 15 on it (like with the rabbit from the Orchard video) but instead it was a number 19 on his shirt.

This is clear, imperical evidence that he is not a clone... unless... the producers are trying to trick us by using a non-Lost-number number!!! :eek:

toddintexas
02-23-2008, 12:22 PM
That angle is interesting enough that I felt compelled to rewatch the scene again. I was hoping Aaron's shirt would have had the number 15 on it (like with the rabbit from the Orchard video) but instead it was a number 19 on his shirt.

This is clear, imperical evidence that he is not a clone... unless... the producers are trying to trick us by using a non-Lost-number number!!! :eek:

Well, if you subtract 1 from 9, 9 - 1 = 8! Or you flip 9 upside down, you get 16! Only a joke, just playing with the numbers!;)

Coca-Cola1
02-23-2008, 12:30 PM
That angle is interesting enough that I felt compelled to rewatch the scene again. I was hoping Aaron's shirt would have had the number 15 on it (like with the rabbit from the Orchard video) but instead it was a number 19 on his shirt.

This is clear, imperical evidence that he is not a clone... unless... the producers are trying to trick us by using a non-Lost-number number!!! :eek:

They could have used different numbers for the children. Or perhaps the numbers don't mean anythng. What was the number on SAMS shirt he was wearing on the boat while looking for Black Rock? Does anyone know?

toddintexas
02-23-2008, 12:32 PM
They could have used different numbers for the children. Or perhaps the numbers don't mean anythng. What was the number on SAMS shirt he was wearing on the boat while looking for Black Rock? Does anyone know?

If I remember correctly it was "79-" but the little "-" was hotly debated on whether it was a trick of the light or not.

Mr. Find
02-23-2008, 12:50 PM
Well, if you subtract 1 from 9, 9 - 1 = 8! Or you flip 9 upside down, you get 16! Only a joke, just playing with the numbers!;)

Just playing with numbers????? That is pretty reckless behavior, if you ask me. Why don't we play with dynamite while we are at it?

toddintexas, I say this to you because nobody wants to see any numerical harm happen to you. Do not play games with the numbers! Ignore this warning and before you know it you could be konked in the head by a 42 and knocked unconcious. Then you might miss next week's episode. This is not a good thing!

If you must continue with your playing with numbers, please, please, PLEASE be very careful. And make sure wear your officially licensed Lost protective gear.

Namaste....and be careful out there.

BoogaFrito
02-23-2008, 12:57 PM
What sealed it for me was the "DS" ring on the kid's right hand...

Mr. Find
02-23-2008, 01:00 PM
What sealed it for me was the "DS" ring on the kid's right hand...


I thought the DS ring was on his left hand.

Screencaps, please....

Coca-Cola1
02-23-2008, 01:02 PM
I thought the DS ring was on his left hand.

Screencaps, please....


DS RING???? Please show and explain, I'm Lost. (LOL)

i_wana_get_lost_with_starla
02-23-2008, 01:21 PM
DS RING???? Please show and explain, I'm Lost. (LOL)

Im assuming that they are talking about the "driveshaft's ring" (Dexter Stratton, Charlie's great granddad), the ring that Charlie left in the crib before he went on his "mission".








"Driveshaft, more like Suckshaft"

Chrysander
02-23-2008, 01:26 PM
You can get a Nintendo Dual Screen which fits nicely onto a tasteful decorative ring, so you can play the DS whenever you like, even at funerals, and nobody would know you had it

Shardyk
02-23-2008, 01:35 PM
Clones?? Seriously?? This show is a little smarter than that...

JoZay
02-23-2008, 01:37 PM
Why would they play creepy music if all she said was "eric"? Eric has no meaning whatsoever - the reason the music was creepy is because we find out the name of the kid, which is Aaron

They play creepy music a lot on Lost. And it was the ending of the show so they had to add big creep music.

I originally heard Eric & watching my tape again this morning, I still heard Eric. But when I listened several times again, it did sound more like Aaron to me.

The power of suggestion plays its part well eh?

Mr. Find
02-23-2008, 01:46 PM
Clones?? Seriously?? This show is a little smarter than that...

Okay, howabout human duplicates then? The show isn't smarter than human duplicates,right?

Itsalldark
02-23-2008, 01:50 PM
After seeing all the posts from people who heard Eric I can only conclude that Lost makes people hear different things. It's that screwy island I tell you. It even reaches out into the real world and affects peoples minds!

Chrysander
02-23-2008, 01:59 PM
They play creepy music a lot on Lost. And it was the ending of the show so they had to add big creep music.

I originally heard Eric & watching my tape again this morning, I still heard Eric. But when I listened several times again, it did sound more like Aaron to me.

The power of suggestion plays its part well eh?

Heh, yeah they do play creepy music a lot; because a lot of creepy stuff happens. They don't just play creepy music to accompany anything. The end of the episode is often intended to be creepy or dramatic. If the kid is called Eric, that fact is neither creepy nor dramatic, it's just a random name which means nothing, and therefore the use of the music would be insane.

toddintexas
02-23-2008, 01:59 PM
Clones?? Seriously?? This show is a little smarter than that...

Well, we have seen 2 #15 Bunnies in the same room together, so as to whether they are clones or just a time shift, there were 2 together.

Coca-Cola1
02-23-2008, 02:04 PM
Clones?? Seriously?? This show is a little smarter than that...

Oh I don't know, I think one has to be pretty smart to pull off Cloneing after all it has taken years of research and test to get it to where it is at today. It happens in the real world why not LOST?

Mr. Find
02-23-2008, 02:07 PM
Aaron or Eric? Either or neither.

Discuss.

Coca-Cola1
02-23-2008, 02:09 PM
Aaron or Eric? Either or neither.

Discuss.

(LOL) I was just thinking this. I think the writers are messing with our heads more then we think?????

JoZay
02-23-2008, 02:14 PM
Heh, yeah they do play creepy music a lot; because a lot of creepy stuff happens. They don't just play creepy music to accompany anything. The end of the episode is often intended to be creepy or dramatic. If the kid is called Eric, that fact is neither creepy nor dramatic, it's just a random name which means nothing, and therefore the use of the music would be insane.

Sorry I didn't mean to offend. I'll need to watch and listen carefully to the score at the end. To me it just was another dramatic note ending the episode like usual.

I'm still hearing Eric but pretty soon I'll stop posting in my thread because I seem to becoming obsessed by this & I'm not liking being so obsessed.

Eric or Aaron...it'll come out in the wash one of these days :)

lockesmithe
02-23-2008, 02:16 PM
There was a time when I heard something different than was apparently said, so I know how you feel. Remember that scene where the dead, vision Ana Lucia appears to Eko and says something to the effect of, "You have to help John...?" I heard, "You have to help Jack..." Even on replay, I heard Jack instead of John. Odd.

Sam G
02-23-2008, 03:01 PM
I listened to it again on the ABC site but I'm going to get the tape and listen to that again also. Things have been changed from the broadcast to when they put it up on the ABC site before.
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