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MPmom
02-28-2008, 11:48 PM
Tonight near the beginning, we saw a brief glimpse of notes and diagrams Frank had in the helicopter. On one of those papers was a block style arrow drawn, pointing at an angle, supposedly a diagram of what bearing to follow to leave the island. The arrow in that diagram looked just like this one, same angle, same style:
mural (http://lostpedia.com/wiki/Image:Mural3.jpg)

I have always believed that Desmond was having his flashes before the hatch blew, and that his mural is evidence of that. Many things have turned up on that mural that we didn't know about at that time. And if Desmond was truly locked up, he wouldn't have known either. He was exposed to the electromagnetic energy for 3 years on a steady basis. It must have began effecting his consciences place in time way back then.

Maybe when we get some screen caps we can compare the diagram with the mural above.

lostgurl
02-28-2008, 11:54 PM
Wow, good catch. I always wanted to find out more about that mural. I missed the arrow on the papers in the copter, but maybe we can decipher more of the mural now? Has anyone been keeping up on it?

mrain01
02-28-2008, 11:58 PM
Tonight near the beginning, we saw a brief glimpse of notes and diagrams Frank had in the helicopter. On one of those papers was a block style arrow drawn, pointing at an angle, supposedly a diagram of what bearing to follow to leave the island. The arrow in that diagram looked just like this one, same angle, same style:
mural (http://lostpedia.com/wiki/Image:Mural3.jpg)

I have always believed that Desmond was having his flashes before the hatch blew, and that his mural is evidence of that. Many things have turned up on that mural that we didn't know about at that time. And if Desmond was truly locked up, he wouldn't have known either. He was exposed to the electromagnetic energy for 3 years on a steady basis. It must have began effecting his consciences place in time way back then.

Maybe when we get some screen caps we can compare the diagram with the mural above.

Could Radzinski have drawn the mural? Could he have eventually tried to escape the island, hit the ebola zone, come back, and eventually killed himself as a result?

imfromthepast
02-29-2008, 12:00 AM
Uhm...
Am I missing something? The arrow on Frank's diagram went up and then to the right. The only arrow on the Mural is pointing to the upper left.

What was your point again?

LostLaura
02-29-2008, 12:02 AM
This is a really good point. This is the BEST mural website out there:
http://www.cs.iastate.edu/~andorfc/iowa_mural.html

Don't think there have been updates since S3 when the mural-like painting was shown in Widmore's office during Des's FBYE episode.

When the mural was revealed to be painted by Jack Bender, people explained away how there was information in the mural that Des couldn't know by saying that Bender just painted plot points that he knew about happening that season, etc.... but now there is all new meaning!

lucky4me8
02-29-2008, 12:03 AM
Great thinking!!! I need to re-scrutinize the mural now.

shyguy
02-29-2008, 12:09 AM
Uhm...
Am I missing something? The arrow on Frank's diagram went up and then to the right. The only arrow on the Mural is pointing to the upper left.

What was your point again?

Yeah, thats what I saw. I don't see it in the mural.

SLAVEMOM
02-29-2008, 12:28 AM
I don't know about the arrow, but going to the link that Lost Laura provided the "robot" looking thing in the upper right corner looks like what was hanging over Aaron's crib. This was probably brought up last week, I searched and couldn't tell, it is disabled. I only saw it tonight on the "pop up" version

MPmom
02-29-2008, 12:32 AM
Heres the cap to the diagram on the helicopter. It looks to be pointing to 305 degrees

FranksDiagram (http://bp3.blogger.com/_Hxnvg45zlCw/R8eAW4EXrNI/AAAAAAAAAGc/1L5GHGfjAoc/s1600-h/pict+2008-02-28+09-23-319.jpg)

Here's a cap of the mural, showing the angle being 325 degrees. Scroll about 1/4 way down.
mural (http://www.cs.iastate.edu/~andorfc/iowa_mural.html)

Wasn't 325 the heading Ben told Michael to follow?

MarineOne
02-29-2008, 12:42 AM
Heres the cap to the diagram on the helicopter. It looks to be pointing to 305 degrees

FranksDiagram (http://bp3.blogger.com/_Hxnvg45zlCw/R8eAW4EXrNI/AAAAAAAAAGc/1L5GHGfjAoc/s1600-h/pict+2008-02-28+09-23-319.jpg)

Here's a cap of the mural, showing the angle being 325 degrees. Scroll about 1/4 way down.
mural (http://www.cs.iastate.edu/%7Eandorfc/iowa_mural.html)

Wasn't 325 the heading Ben told Michael to follow?

I believe that the "arrow" that you're referring to tonight is actually a crude drawing of the freighter...

ortiz34
02-29-2008, 01:41 AM
as much as id like to i dont see a correlation...

digitaldragon03
02-29-2008, 02:40 AM
Right under the arrow in the mural. Does that say "Out"?

This way out of the island possibly?

Clochard
02-29-2008, 02:44 AM
Right under the arrow in the mural. Does that say "Out"?

This way out of the island possibly?


Mmmm..not seeing it.

digitaldragon03
02-29-2008, 02:53 AM
Here is what i see.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/digitaldragon03/out.jpg

Clochard
02-29-2008, 02:58 AM
Here is what i see.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/digitaldragon03/out.jpg

I wasn't looking in the right place.
Interesting!

Claudia815
02-29-2008, 03:03 AM
I have always believed that Desmond was having his flashes before the hatch blew, and that his mural is evidence of that. Many things have turned up on that mural that we didn't know about at that time. And if Desmond was truly locked up, he wouldn't have known either. He was exposed to the electromagnetic energy for 3 years on a steady basis. It must have began effecting his consciences place in time way back then.

Such as his meeting with Jack in 2001, when he was so sure Sarah would walk again? But that's when he said goodbye to Penny, so I'm sure I'm missing something there.