Juliette and Goodwin...Goodwin cheated on Harper...perhaps she needed therapy

Goodwin seemed like a good egg...why would he go for someone so miserable?

Harper is a threatening kind of person...and she does love Goodwin...she didnt want him hurt because of Ben...who is woe ing Juliette

Could be Goodwin and Harper came to the Island to make a "new start" as a couple? Maybe they were infertile and came to the Island to concieve - without truly knowing what happens to pregnant women. (they were kind of clear as to what seems to happen to women in the third trimester.)

My other guess is that these people were "matched" when they came to the Island - kinda like arranged marriages. Which may be why Goodwin and Harper didn't do so well, but Colleen and Picket did.

She probably wasn't miserable before she came to the island. She might not have wanted to go to the island in the first place. (Of course, I'm assuming that she & Goodwin came to the island the same way Juliette did- recruited).

I was just going to guess the whole planned marriages thing... perhaps to help make better babies? Or try to match the strongest (genetically) individuals together in hopes that the pregnancy will go well.

I feel even worse for Juliet than I did before. She's always "The Other Woman."

With Jack she is the other to Kate.
With Goodwin she was the other to Harper.
As far as we know she was probably even the other to Ed's mistress.

AND, in a sense, she is the other woman to Annie.

I feel even worse for Juliet than I did before. She's always "The Other Woman."

With Jack she is the other to Kate.
With Goodwin she was the other to Harper.
As far as we know she was probably even the other to Ed's mistress.

AND, in a sense, she is the other woman to Annie.
Good call Eight. And actually, in Not in Portland she said "Of course you are" when she learned Ed's new floozy was the new research assisant. I always suspected that's how things began with him and Juliet as well - she was the naive new researcher who ended up with her married boss.

Poor Juliet, she really has trouble with men. :frown:

BTW, where did the notion of arranged marriages come from? Did I miss something in the dialogue?

BTW, where did the notion of arranged marriages come from? Did I miss something in the dialogue?
I did too. Where is this concept from?

it cme from Ben saying Your Mine...as if someone picked her for him specifically...they arranged it so that she would come to the island and he would woe her enough to marry her and have his babies...ick...lol

it cme from Ben saying Your Mine...as if someone picked her for him specifically...they arranged it so that she would come to the island and he would woe her enough to marry her and have his babies...ick...lol

I took Ben's comment as his general control issues - What Ben wants, Ben gets. Even if he selected her as a recruit based on her resemblance to Annie or just with the thought that he could woo her, I don't think any of the "pairings" were planned.

i would have to disagree with you, he had to have started working on Juliettes house before she got there. He was trying to woe her based on who she was, not because of the idea that she happened on the island by the powers that pick those who come to the island...she was chosen to be his island wife and his job was to woe her...he failed

i would have to disagree with you, he had to have started working on Juliettes house before she got there. He was trying to woe her based on who she was, not because of the idea that she happened on the island by the powers that pick those who come to the island...she was chosen to be his island wife and his job was to woe her...he failed

I think we actually agree somewhat ;)
I do think he made extra attempts and potentially even hand selected her as a recruit, with a "crush". Maybe because she "looks like her". His goal probably was to have her as his own (well, duh to me, he said he thought as much). And he is the head honcho overall (minus Jacob), he seems to think everything is really his.
My only suggestion/thought was that just because Ben selected her, doesn't mean that other couples were "planned marriages" in the traditional sense. I do think they knew enough about each person to know what type may do well. But someone earlier suggested that Goodwin's and Harper's marriage was planned or arranged. I just think that's a stretch. We already know that Juliet is attracted to men that are "torn"(Jack, maybe Goodwin?) or "unavailable" (Goodwin) or are likely to cheat (ex-husband).

Just to stir the pot a bit: why are we assuming that "You look just like her" refers to Annie? When did Harper get to the Island---after the Purge? Then how did Harper know Annie? See pictures of her? Did Annie actually die in the Purge?

Did Ben choose Juliet himself or did someone else? Is Ben in love, all skipping and adolescent just the creepiest thing ever? :D

Also, I like that the title "The Other Woman" includes the fact that these women are both Others. Didn't Juliet refer to herself that way in the ep? (Or is Harper a Hostile?)

I think that they were referring to his mother.

About the arranged marriage thing, I think there was a foiler circulating about that where someone read too much into the line when Ben said "You're mine!" I think one could possibly intuit that, but it's not concrete.

I wasn't thinking arranged marriage just Ben gets what he wants.

I think that they were referring to his mother.

Of course, yeah! We've (my husband and I) talked about the plethora of similar-looking blondes on the show---Juliet, Sarah, Penny, Ben's mom...

How's this for a wacky theory: Harper is Annie. Mwahahaha!! :rotflmao2:

Goodwin seemed like a good egg...

Yeah, when he's not killing innocent people, he's really cool!

Oops, were we not supposed to remember that he snapped Nathan's neck like a twig? :confused: (Edit: This was not meant towards you, but towards the writers)

Arranged marriages would be an interesting idea. That would explain why Goodwin and Harper seemed so mismatched, yet he didn't just move out of the house and take up with Juliet or whoever he wanted.

Have we seen any Others who are identified as married, except for Pickett and Colleen? We know there were a lot of pregnant women . . . .

Yeah, when he's not killing innocent people, he's really cool!

Oops, were we not supposed to remember that he snapped Nathan's neck like a twig
Nathan was not a good person.

it cme from Ben saying Your Mine...

I'm not trying to be smart here, but how does anyone get that it was an arranged marriage from that comment? I took it to be a typical controlling male "claiming" a female - the type that become abusers or stalkers.

I hate how the writers have introduced this whole notion that Juliet was recruited based on her appearance, because Ben wanted her for himself. Is this supposed to negate her role as a researcher, her ability to impregnate male mice, which seemed like a pretty good reason for Alpert to recruit her specifically last season? Is the whole infertility issue just a sham now to get Juliet to stay on the island? The hell?

I hate how the writers have introduced this whole notion that Juliet was recruited based on her appearance, because Ben wanted her for himself.


I don't think they've done that. I think he recruited her for her abilities - and THEN developed the "crush" because of her looks.

Goodwin said he was sleeping on the couch.

dont all cheaters say they sleep on the couch?

I hate how the writers have introduced this whole notion that Juliet was recruited based on her appearance, because Ben wanted her for himself. Is this supposed to negate her role as a researcher, her ability to impregnate male mice, which seemed like a pretty good reason for Alpert to recruit her specifically last season? Is the whole infertility issue just a sham now to get Juliet to stay on the island? The hell?I don't think that was the implication. I think Ben recruited her as a researcher and grew more infatuated with her as time went on. He eventually grew to feel so possessive of her that he starting doing sinister things like sending Goodwin to die.

Goodwin said he was sleeping on the couch.

dont all cheaters say they sleep on the couch?

I totally think that the couch quote was used to imply that the affair had gone on for a year after the discussion between Harper and Juliet.

Harper has kicked him to coach over the affair but is unwilling to make the affair public to protect Goodwin from punishment by Ben.

The girls glanced at each other when Ben gave the order to Goodwin about the tailsection. They kinda knew there was more to the choice than.

Isn't Harper Baazar?