It is so obvious that Micheal would be the mole on the boat so what if they are leading us that way on purpose? i mean you don't think they would bring back someone we thought was dead do you? Is there anyone that has died on the island that they might be able to bring back?

Yeah. That pretty much comfirms it, so obvious. But I think it would be great if it wasn't what every1 expects.

My Hubby thinks it's Sayid,somehow, because of their Future involement. I don't, I think it has to be Michael or Walt.

I haven't read spoliers, but everone says it is you know who so I assume that it has been leaked that it will be you know who. It would be a big suprise if it wasn't already pretty much known.

I think Sayid would be a great twist!

That is definitely it. Theyshould have never announced that Michael was coming back. That ruined all the fun of the mystery that really isn't a mystery.

That is definitely it. Theyshould have never announced that Michael was coming back. That ruined all the fun of the mystery that really isn't a mystery.

I still dont think it's Michael on the boat, it's WAY too obvious,

It would be fun if it was Libby. She is supposed to be back soon. Fun but pretty impossible.

Well what if they make us believe that it was Michael through out the whole episode? They could make it seem like he's Ben man on the inside. But maybe Michael ended up on the boat some other way. What if....

Libby is Ben's "man on the boat." I don't know how but maybe they could pull something off. She is coming back this episode too.

I haven't read spoliers, but everone says it is Micheal so I assume that it has been leaked that it will be Micheal. It would be a big suprise if it wasn't already pretty much known.
It's not been leaked. Even people like me who read all the spoilers are still speculating..

Well what if they make us believe that it was Michael through out the whole episode? They could make it seem like he's Ben man on the inside. But maybe Michael ended up on the boat some other way. What if....

Libby is Ben's "man on the boat." I don't know how but maybe they could pull something off. She is coming back this episode too.


As long as they don't end up ruining that character, then I also hope that...
...it turns out to be Libby. I'd be beyond heartbroken to discover something along the lines of her just using Hurley, and not really falling for him. I really want to believe that no matter who she worked for, she was a truly good person.

I'm torn between wanting her back so badly, as she's my favorite, and worrying that they'll ruin her by making her a bad person. This is so distressing...

It's not been leaked. Even people like me who read all the spoilers are still speculating..

You obviously missed some spoilers.

Like the one where episode 8, the one after next week is a Michael episode. And that Harold Pereneau was seen filming on the Freighter in a port that was mocked up to look like Fiji. Hence Michael boarded the Freighter in Fiji, their last port of call.
.....

Im kinda hoping it isnt Mike cuz how obvious it seems. itd still be cool to see where they go with it. but it will lose some of its coolness in the reveal.
Maybe its Patchy, he swam away after killing Charlie,

I think Sayid would be a great twist!

great theory, that would be a cool twist, but the first time ben mentioned his spy on the boat, wasnt sayid still on the island???? I dont think its really possible due to the timeline, unfortunately.
I'd bet its Michel as well, but it does seem almost too obvious...

I mean, I don't think the fact that Harold Perineau is coming back is a spoiler. And the fact that he hasn't yet...I mean, I've been pretty confident ever sense Ben said he had a man on the boat that it was Michael. What better way to bring him back. It can't be Libby. Libby is dead. If she is on the show again it will be in flashbacks, and I'm pretty sure that TPTB have stated that.

I think for sure that, Michael of no, its beyond a shadow of a doubt that its someone we already are familier with. Otherwise, why would Ben have told Locke "you might want to sit down..."

I'm still betting it's Michael, but it would be so disappointingly obvious. It would just show that TPTB are starting to lack when it comes to the twists. :ohwell:

Oprah, just to prove that she really is everywhere. And she gives everyone on the island cars. But they still have to pay taxes on them.

My Hubby thinks it's Sayid,somehow, because of their Future involement. I don't, I think it has to be Michael or Walt.


Sayid was in the sick bay when the door was opened. He hasn't time traveled. Unless he's working with someone. But, then I'm thinking it's Des, he was on the island, had opportunities to interact with Widmore, via communications, for 3 years, and then there's Penny trying to find him for those three years. Michael seems to be the only other one. Frank is a longshot. Because in the preview for next week they said

Someone you think you'd never see again.

Also, that might explain why Widmore didn't 'hate' Des in the bathroom scene.

I'm still betting it's Michael, but it would be so disappointingly obvious. It would just show that TPTB are starting to lack when it comes to the twists. :ohwell:

Oh come on! Just because you saw ONE coming, I don't think its fair to say that TPTB are losing their touch. ;)

I think that there are a lot of people out there that are avid TV watchers that don't also read Entertainment News. Not everyone knows that Harold is back on the show. It will be shocking to more people that you realize.

With all of the time stuff and what happened at the end of the epi I think that it is
Locke

I think.....Michael will definitely be on the boat but won't be Ben's mole. I think a grown up Walt is.....TPTB have said coming and leaving island can affect 'growth'....... kids are still growing....adults just growing older!:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

Ben said that Locke would have to be sitting down for this one. Plus the trailer for next weeks ep said that we would see that we thought we would never see again. I personally thought we would see Michael again... but I knew for sure that we wouldn't see Libby again. That would be awsome if it was her. It just seems like they are hyping it too much for it to be Michael.

I personally thought we would see Michael again... but I knew for sure that we wouldn't see Libby again. That would be awsome if it was her. It just seems like they are hyping it too much for it to be Michael.

I don't think the general viewing public thought they'd see Michale again. And I know even a lot of people on these boards didn't think so until they announced that Harold was coming back.

if you look on imdb and look at next weeks episode cast list michael is on the cast list

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0994367/fullcredits#cast

if you look on imdb and look at next weeks episode cast list michael is on the cast list

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0994367/fullcredits#cast

Michael has been on the cast list all season.

Yeah. That pretty much comfirms it, so obvious. But I think it would be great if it wasn't what every1 expects.:ditto:

its beyond a shadow of a doubt that its someone we already are familier with.If they hadn't said "someone you thought you'd never see again" I was going to suggest that it might be Ben himself after finding out he is still in contact with Harper.

Michael has been on the cast list all season.

maybe he has been on the overall cast list.
but if you look at each individual episode
they each have a different cast list
so you can see what characters are going to be in each episode

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0411008/episodes#season-4

maybe he has been on the overall cast list.
but if you look at each individual episode
they each have a different cast list
so you can see what characters are going to be in each episode

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0411008/episodes#season-4

Harold Perrineau has been on the opening credits for every episode this season.

maybe he has been on the overall cast list.
but if you look at each individual episode
they each have a different cast list
so you can see what characters are going to be in each episode

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0411008/episodes#season-4

No, that's the overall cast list. Then after the episode airs, they go in and put a
"(credit only)" next to the people who weren't actually in the episode.

I think its funny how the entire thread revolves around spoilers. There's no way, even with the hiding, that someone wouldn't get spoiled by reading this thread...funny in a sad way.:hypocrit:

Maybe it is Kelvin, not that I really believe that, but he is one that I never thought I would see again

I think for sure that, Michael of no, its beyond a shadow of a doubt that its someone we already are familier with. Otherwise, why would Ben have told Locke "you might want to sit down..."

I agree. It had to have been pretty shocking if Ben had to tell Locke to sit down. The only person i can think of that would shock Locke that much is if Ben told him that his dad, Cooper was alive and on the boat. Just a thought.

It's probably Michael, but if it's not is it totally out of the realm of possibility that it's Sayid and Michael is on the boat after meeting Widmore. Sayid works for Ben in the future and we don't know when that unholy union could have started...so...just a thought

Even though Perrineau's on the cast list, and even if he's scheduled to appear in an upcoming episode, and even if Michael's on or has been or will be on the freighter, none of that conclusively says he's the mole.

I think he is, but not because there's been a spoiler saying he's the mole. There hasn't. I think it's him because he's left the island and is not dead..

Sayid was in the sick bay when the door was opened. He hasn't time traveled. Unless he's working with someone. But, then I'm thinking it's Des, he was on the island, had opportunities to interact with Widmore, via communications, for 3 years, and then there's Penny trying to find him for those three years. Michael seems to be the only other one. Frank is a longshot. Because in the preview for next week they said

Someone you think you'd never see again.

Also, that might explain why Widmore didn't 'hate' Des in the bathroom scene.

I explained those pionts and some others to my Huspand as to why it Can't be Sayid, But he still went to bed saying "it's Sayid"!:biggrin: Maybe I can get him to bet the dinner dishes on it and I can take the night off this Thursday!:biggrin: :biggrin:

I think its funny how the entire thread revolves around spoilers. There's no way, even with the hiding, that someone wouldn't get spoiled by reading this thread...funny in a sad way.:hypocrit:Yes but if someone is going to post something they KNOW is a spoiler, they really need to spoiler font it. People may make educated guesses about who it is but others shouldn't confirm those guesses with open unfonted spoilers.

Oprah, just to prove that she really is everywhere. And she gives everyone on the island cars. But they still have to pay taxes on them.
Haha. I like your humor.

I'm with the camp that would be dissapointed if it turns out to be *eh eh*. After Ben telling Locke, "you may need to sit down," and then leaving the audience in the dark, I'm really hoping that the mole is either Ben or Locke, somehow. My second choice would be Mikhial or Ethan, followed by the Marshall, Marvin Candle, Fox Mulder, OJ Simpson, or Snufulufagus.

Haha. I like your humor.

I'm with the camp that would be dissapointed if it turns out to be *eh eh*. After Ben telling Locke, "you may need to sit down," and then leaving the audience in the dark, I'm really hoping that the mole is either Ben or Locke, somehow. My second choice would be Mikhial or Ethan, followed by the Marshall, Marvin Candle, Fox Mulder, OJ Simpson, or Snufulufagus.

Too bad the "man on the boat" phrase points towards a male. If it were more gender-neutral, I'd rather have Dana Scully over Mulder any day. Yep, one of those 'crazy Scully fans', right here. :cool:

Still hoping it's not Michael but thinking it is, in any case.

Too bad the "man on the boat" phrase points towards a male. If it were more gender-neutral, I'd rather have Dana Scully over Mulder any day. Yep, one of those 'crazy Scully fans', right here. :cool:

Still hoping it's not Michael but thinking it is, in any case.
Actually, I was wondering if "man" on the boat wasn't meant to throw us off a little... *cough libby cough*

Actually, I was wondering if "man" on the boat wasn't meant to throw us off a little... *cough libby cough*

Oh dude, that is not fair, getting my ridiculous fannish hopes up like that...! :undecide:

I try to keep what I logically think and what I want to happen seperate. I must resist the urge to mix the two.

For those who keep saying its this person or that person, remember physical bodies, so far, have not travelled in time.

Wouldn't it be a shocker and an answer to a question if it was Annie (Ben's little girlfriend) on the boat as the mole? Of course that wouldn't be a reason to make Locke sit down. If it was Dr. Marvin Crandle, that would flip Locke out and really throw everyone for a loop. An even bigger shocker would be Mr. Ecko. I'll go out on a limb and throw in a Ben Clone. Just throwing some shocker ideas out there keeping the game interesting.

Could the man on the boat be Agent Dale Cooper, FBI? Let's see how many get that reference. :)

I thought this thread was to list people other than Walt's dad that the mole could logically be, not argue if it's Walt's dad or not. I think that at the top of the list, you would have to list Kelvin Inman, Desmond's button pushing buddy from the hatch. I don't know why Locke would need to sit down to hear that, but we're not sure if he died and I don't know how Des could have possibly buried him.

if libby is dead, then how could she possibly be the man on the boat?

if that IS possible, then why couldn't charlie somehow hold his breath long enough to float to the surface & perhaps be picked up by the freighter. Minkowski did say that they got really close to the island. And furthermore, his being "unstuck" had only been happening for a few days so it is possible that the freighter was close enough to the land to pick up charlie floating around on debris.

isnt it?

or maybe michael & walt picked him up.

i just dont see how it could be libby. especially after we saw her buried in the sand weeks ago (island time).

if it were charie then i'd think that be all the reason for locke to have to be seated. Because that would be near impossible.........but possible.


/end 2 cents :)

The person who would please me most would be Locke. But I an resigned to the idea that it is most likely Michael. Still, I can NOT discount the notion that we have been duped in a major way... I just hope so... But listen, TPTB, I totally understand if its Michael. Thats way cool.

And everyone, never forget...When Ben sent Michael and Walt off in the boat, he didn't send them to a particular PLACE. He sent them to a particular TIME (via the bearing). I think thats probably pretty important.

Could the man on the boat be Agent Dale Cooper, FBI? Let's see how many get that reference. :)

Funny enough, the last time we saw Agent Cooper he was repeating "How's Annie?" over and over again. Annie was Ben's little girlfriend. Cooper traveled through the Black Lodge to the Island! David Lynch, you're a genius!!:biggrin:

if libby is dead, then how could she possibly be the man on the boat?

if that IS possible, then why couldn't charlie somehow hold his breath long enough to float to the surface & perhaps be picked up by the freighter. Minkowski did say that they got really close to the island. And furthermore, his being "unstuck" had only been happening for a few days so it is possible that the freighter was close enough to the land to pick up charlie floating around on debris.

isnt it?

or maybe michael & walt picked him up.

i just dont see how it could be libby. especially after we saw her buried in the sand weeks ago (island time).

if it were charie then i'd think that be all the reason for locke to have to be seated. Because that would be near impossible.........but possible.


/end 2 cents :)

I don't think it's Libby at all. I only wish it were. :rolleyes: I'm being a dumb fan, I know.

I think it's going to be Paulo. Vincent dug him up, Ben got him off the island, and he's the cook on the freighter.

Could the man on the boat be Agent Dale Cooper, FBI? Let's see how many get that reference. :)
It's a pretty mainstream reference.

I think it's going to be Paulo. Vincent dug him up, Ben got him off the island, and he's the cook on the freighter.

Oh, for the love of all that is sacred, I hope that Nikki and Paulo are never mentioned on this show again. :scared:

Could the man on the boat be Agent Dale Cooper, FBI? Let's see how many get that reference. :)
I was thinking Laura Palmer pre, wrapped in plastic so Dale Cooper good call too!
"Dianne, Great Pie on this Island"

Actually, I was wondering if "man" on the boat wasn't meant to throw us off a little... *cough libby cough*

Well, we still haven't seen Regina. Where is that girl! She could be Ben's "man" on the boat. It's possible Michael could be on the boat and not be Ben's "man." But maybe that's just wishful thinking on my part because I just don't see the logic in it. I've read all the arguments for it but it still doesn't seem like he's (Ben) had time to pull it off.

No, that's the overall cast list. Then after the episode airs, they go in and put a
"(credit only)" next to the people who weren't actually in the episode.

Not so. I happened to be browsing Harold's IMDB entry Wednesday evening, and it showed "(credit only)" for "The Other Woman" but not for next week's episode.

-steve

It is not Libby. She is dead. She is buried on the island. Once a character dies they are dead.

She will be in a flashback.

His name has appeared at the beginning of every episode so far...it's gotta be him! :biggrin:


Could be Michael or maybe its only because TPTB want to keep us chatting & speculating our heads off. :biggrin:

I think it would be way to easy for it to be Michael. Everyone already knows he is coming back. I like the idea of us thinking that it is him and the writers pull the rug out from under us and we find out it is someone else. The producers have also said that the end is a cliffhanger that may have something to do with Libby and it will be the start of something new.

Karri has posted in this thread before, but i want to remind you all that casting information is considered a spoiler on this site and must be spoiler fonted. just because someone's name has shown up on IMDB or in the opening credits does not make it okay to talk about it openly. until we see this person or persons on screen in an episode it has to be spoiler fonted. thank you.

I think IF Libby is coming back they are going to have to do something more than her being a ghost that haunts Michael or appearing in a flashback. She's not a Boone, a Shannon, or a Charlie. She's a character we want to learn more about. I don't just want to see her visiting one of our Losties from beyond the grave for past crimes. Therefore they should do more with her character story wise.

What if the 'man' on the boat is actually a woman? That would certainly point to Libby. The writers like to make you believe one thing and then give you the exact opposite. So maybe it could be Libby or this Regina person that we have heard of but not seen yet.

I think someone was right when they said Libby was dead. When you are dead, you are dead. Something tells me this Regina person is Ben's person on the boat. Heck, Regina might not even be her real name, just one that she uses amongst the Freighters.

Why does everyone keep saying it's Libby, what is the obsession with her? She is dead and buried, and TPTB have stated that once you are dead, you are dead.

Also, saying crazy things like the mole is Sayid or Locke is insane. Only someone's consciousness can travel thru time, and we know for sure that both of these guy's physical bodies are accounted for when someone mysteriously opens the door the medical area on the freighter.

Give it up people, it's Michael. As a stretch, I could almost see Charlie, but the rest of these theories just don't add up. I suppose Walt is another possibility - a kid would be a perfect cover, who would believe he was a spy?

What if Regina is really Cindy, the flight attendant. We have not seen her in a long time and we thought we may never see her again...

another possibility is Inman, but Locke does not know of this man, unless Desmond told him about Inman.

Most likely it is Michael, but Walt would be a reason for Locke to have to seat it...remember, Locke did say that taller Walt was 'real'

Whoever it is, Ben thinks revealing it to John will be pretty shocking. That's why he told him to take a seat.
Michael would be shocking.
But WALT would be EVEN more shocking!!!!!! Most of all, because of the way he might be using to communicate his info to Ben.....

I'm sure it's...

Michael or Walt. You knew somehow they'd figure into the story again the moment they left. When Ben said he had a man on the boat, Michael was the first person I thought of, as I'm sure most of you did.

However, I think it would be really interesting if it turned out to be...

Christian Shephard. If you watched the LOST: Missing Pieces - Episode 13, it made it seem like he could still be alive. I don't think it would be him, but it would be cool.

Well, after reading all seven pages I thought I'd like to add my two cents. First off though, Kudos to the person that voted for Oprah......you may be on to something! :)

My first theory all along has been Walt. Walt was kept away from Michael while they were on the island. Who knows if Ben and Walt didn't team up. Another thing that leads me to believe that it's Walt is the fact that he has a "special" ability of sorts and it could be how he is communicating with Ben. Just a thought! Overall I think we will see Michael and Walt again next episode and I know it will be one of those 2, but I'm leaning more towards Walt than Michael.

However, let me take a minute to play the "What If" game, based on some of your theories.

Lets start with Charlie. I don't believe this is possible, because in Hurley's Flash Forward we clearly see that Charlie is a ghost haunting him, both at the police station and the funny farm. Charile is dead!

I've heard several others, Patchy, Annie, etc. My only problem with that is Locke would not be floored by any of their names or existance. Ben having Locke sit down says that it is someone that Locke knows and can relate to as being shocked! The others just don't work in this case.

Past versions of Desmond / Saiyd. I actually REALLY love this idea. Let me preface this by saying I do not believe this idea to be true by any stretch. But, just for fun, we know that no one has physically jumped time, only with their mind. Desmond jumped back, what 10 years? What is Sayid has the same effect that Desmond has, but we don't know. What if Saiyd is taking everything in on the boat right now as we watch, but he keeps flashing back to Season 2 where he is locked in the room with Ben? Again, I don't believe this will happen as it's TOO outside the box, but it's really interested to think about. Same thing goes for Desmond and I really don't think he knows Ben enough to even care about helping him.

Lastly, my favorite of the theories: Libby. I have to say first that she's has made a great impression on everyone to still be desired 2 years removed from death. However, she is dead and once your dead, your dead. If they start bringing people back from the dead the show is LOST (no pun intended ;) ) HOWEVER, chew on this! What if Libby has been involved with Dharma for a long time now. She seems to have connections with several of the people on the island. What if it is Libby and at the end of the episode we notice a small tatoo on her shoulder.......a number "15". Now, like I said to start, I'm on board with the Walt theory and really believe that to be true, but it kind of makes me think a little. What if Libby was tested by the same machine that the rabbit was tested. Maybe there are a few "Libby"s around. What if Libby is actually Annie, Ben's love? What if the Libby on the plane was just a copy of the true Libby. Talk about Drama, how is Hurley going to deal with the Original Libby running back into the arms of Ben Linus? Like I said, just something to chew on :D.

neo

I don't think it's Libby at all. I only wish it were. :rolleyes: I'm being a dumb fan, I know.

It would be fascinating for Libby to be "the man on the boat". She has proven herself to be extremely involved with powerful forces/people who know about the island ( the whole giving Desmond her boat was a little too coincidental :) ).

But unless she was able to act her way dead in front of Jack, she really is gone. (Not to mention she would be the most amazing actress EVER).

Casting news aside, I would be completely floored if someone like Danielle, the original Sawyer, Helen, or Boone was the man on the boat.

Also, it is worthy remmebering that Ben sent Michael to the 325 beraring telling him that he would find 'rescue'. So I am pretty sure that he KNEW that the freighter was already close to the island. That also seems to suggest that the freighter didn't come to the island because they detected the EM anomaly. Unless, of course, some time distortion is involved and Ben knew that, by the time Michael and Walt get out of the snowglobe, the freighter would have approach to the island as a consequence of the Purple Sky Event. Or something like that.
Also, from that final scene of S2 finale, nothing seemed to suggest that Michael and Ben had a deal for him to be Ben's personal spy on the boat.
But, on the other hand, Walt had been with the Others for a pretty long time.
So....;)

Too bad the "man on the boat" phrase points towards a male. If it were more gender-neutral, I'd rather have Dana Scully over Mulder any day. Yep, one of those 'crazy Scully fans', right here. :cool:

Still hoping it's not Michael but thinking it is, in any case.

I totally agree with you!!!! I am hoping for someone else myself.

your all wrong. its lisa kudrow.

in all honesty i was really hoping that michael wouldnt come back, i hate his character and i would be perfectly ok with sailing off into the sunset never to be seen again. but when i saw episode one i knew that was where he was comming back. he has to be the man on the boat. ya know, him or lisa.

Ben having Locke sit down says that it is someone that Locke knows and can relate to as being shocked! The others just don't work in this case.

This is not entirely true. It's more than possible that Locke could have interacted with practically anyone, off island, and we just haven't seen that particular "flashback" yet.

I don't know if this needs spoiler tags as it's just speculation but...

I personally think it's Regina, and Regina may in fact be Annie.

She has proven herself to be extremely involved with powerful forces/people who know about the island ( the whole giving Desmond her boat was a little too coincidental :) ).


Maybe my memory is failing, but I don't recall any references or even hints that Libby is "involved with powerful forces/people." We know she was in an insane asylum, and that in a moment of weakness, she gave Desmond her dead husbands boat. Beyond that though?

Again, this obsession with Libby, I just don't get it. Does this relate to the theory that celebrities become more famous after they die?

Maybe it is Kelvin, not that I really believe that, but he is one that I never thought I would see again

now i bet that would flip desmonds wig, but its doubtful because locke has noknowledge of kelvin inman

I don't know if this needs spoiler tags as it's just speculation but...

I personally think it's Regina, and Regina may in fact be Annie.Why would Annie need to change her name to Regina? :shrug:

I don't know. Why did Ben change his name to Henry Gale?

I mean, I don't think the fact that Harold Perineau is coming back is a spoiler. And the fact that he hasn't yet...I mean, I've been pretty confident ever sense Ben said he had a man on the boat that it was Michael. What better way to bring him back. It can't be Libby. Libby is dead. If she is on the show again it will be in flashbacks, and I'm pretty sure that TPTB have stated that.

I think for sure that, Michael of no, its beyond a shadow of a doubt that its someone we already are familier with. Otherwise, why would Ben have told Locke "you might want to sit down..."

it wouldnt be that hard to believe michael could get picked up by a freighter after floating for god knows how long, and then talked into spying. but learning that sayid from the future was a spy on the freighter,.... now thats an explanation i would have to sit for.

before i came in here, i was conviced it was michael, now.... im on the sayiid spy train

I don't know. Why did Ben change his name to Henry Gale?Good point, but I still don't buy it. Ben has people looking for him for various reasons.

learning that sayid from the future was a spy on the freighter,.... now thats an explanation i would have to sit for.It wouldn't have to be future Sayid (I don't think :confused: ...confusing myself now...) since he had his talk with Ben prior to leaving the island, BUT the new sneak peek shows a note being shoved through a door into a room where Sayid and Desmond are hanging out.

ETA Elly, every time I see one of your posts I get stuck on your avatar for a few minutes! :drool:

it wouldnt be that hard to believe michael could get picked up by a freighter after floating for god knows how long, and then talked into spying. but learning that sayid from the future was a spy on the freighter,.... now thats an explanation i would have to sit for.

before i came in here, i was conviced it was michael, now.... im on the sayiid spy train

I hope it's not Michael, just because that's what everyone is expecting, but I think it probably is. However, remember that Walt is now "taller ghost walt." What I draw from that is that wherever Ben sent them, at 325 degrees, he sent them several years into the past. So Ben's thugs had several years to co-opt Michael, and get him ensconced in the boat crew before it was ever assembled.

it wouldnt be that hard to believe michael could get picked up by a freighter after floating for god knows how long, and then talked into spying. but learning that sayid from the future was a spy on the freighter,.... now thats an explanation i would have to sit for.

before i came in here, i was conviced it was michael, now.... im on the sayiid spy train

How could Sayid have opened the door when he was still inside the room they were locked in? (Or cut up all the wires in the radio room before he went in there?) A 'future Sayid'?

It's got to be someone that Locke knows, and would 'blow his mind' in some way to be told to sit down first.

I'll go out on a limb, and guess it is Walt, (who has a strong bond with Locke) and his Dad is there on board as well, but not the 'mole'. Sound good?

Everyone, come on!
Michael gets a flashback episode in two episodes, and i can only assume its going to be about the current lostie situations blended with flashbacks of Michael before the crash (like we're prone to seeing).
My theory, however, is that the episode is going to close with the camera zooming in on the ship sayid/des are on and we see Michael is behind the wheel.
Ben's coordinates didn't take Michael/Walk to civilization, it simply took them to the freighter ;)

Call me crazy, or call me normal for agreeing with everyone else..
But considering that in two episodes, LOST takes a break, thats how I see this "cliffhanger" coming about.

If it's not Michael then it's Kelvin. He'd be recognized by both Sayid and Desmond.

I'll go out on a limb, and guess it is Walt, (who has a strong bond with Locke) and his Dad is there on board as well, but not the 'mole'. Sound good?

This seems reasonable to me.

If it's not Michael then it's Kelvin. He'd be recognized by both Sayid and Desmond.


I kinda like that theory, considering we thought Kelvin was dead a few times and then he was back again.
I'd love to see the british rocker come back, as everyone else would, but thats a TRUE long shot.

i'm leaning towards Walt cause he has "the shining" and would be able to communicate information to ben telepathically... it seems like ben telepathically sent a message to Harper to deliver the message to Juliet, and we know walt is also special. it's the taller ghost part that confuses me.

i'm leaning towards Walt cause he has "the shining" and would be able to communicate information to ben telepathically... it seems like ben telepathically sent a message to Harper to deliver the message to Juliet, and we know walt is also special. it's the taller ghost part that confuses me.

Excellent points re. Walt. they had to explain his real life growing pains somehow. They could say it's because time on Lostia is slower than real off-island time? The helicopter gained 18 +/- hours on it's way thru the wormhole to the boat.

Funny enough, the last time we saw Agent Cooper he was repeating "How's Annie?" over and over again. Annie was Ben's little girlfriend. Cooper traveled through the Black Lodge to the Island! David Lynch, you're a genius!!:biggrin:

I have to say I think this is the funniest, but best thought out theory!
100%
I kinda like that theory, considering we thought Kelvin was dead a few times and then he was back again.
I'd love to see the british rocker come back, as everyone else would, but thats a TRUE long shot.


yeah of all the people that would blow my mind he would the most, and would be a nice tie in to Sayid and Desmond, not so much Locke though. Here's hoping.

i'm leaning towards Walt cause he has "the shining" and would be able to communicate information to ben telepathically... it seems like ben telepathically sent a message to Harper to deliver the message to Juliet, and we know walt is also special. it's the taller ghost part that confuses me.

Heck, who are we to argue with Taller Ghost Walt?:rolleyes:

In reading here, and initially thinking myself that “you know who” could be the mole, I realize:

We are first assuming that Ben asked Locke to sit down due to the fact that the information would be shocking to him. On that note, I have to say, it doesn’t seem to me that in the short time that “you know who” has been gone, that he could be a person who not only is on the boat, but is so trusted during this mission of theirs that he can obtain information easily (very detailed information I might add) and also get that information to Ben so easily. This person would need (in my opinion) much more knowledge and ability to follow through with such an important and possibly complex mission along with the freighter gang, who are there for a specific and general and important purpose, picked and chosen by someone most likely due to their backgrounds/skills, etc.

Although I do think it was for the shock of what was about to be said, what if Ben simply asked Locke to sit down due to the length of time it would take to tell him the information? Even though Locke gave in a bit, I think it would take more convincing and more information from Ben than just a name of the mole on the boat in order for Locke to have let him go so easily. Can’t wait for next week!

It is NOT LIBBY. She is DEAD.

I don't think it is Walt either. However,

I wonder if Walt is on the boat making it easier for him to project himself to Locke since he would be closer to the island. If Michael is on the boat it would stand to reason that Walt is not far behind.

WE KNOW IT IS NOT LIBBY. STOP TELLING US.

I SAID THAT I WISH IT WERE HER, NOT THAT THAT IT WOULD BE. ***Mod edited***

And why am I "obsessed" with her? Maybe because she's my favorite character? Sorry I don't appreciate the overrated A-team as much as the people yelling about this must.

Ethan, from the past, that's who it is. I would be sexed up in my sexy pants if it is. Because if you don't bring her here by tomorrow, I will kill one of them

I think the only people that it could be that would require Locke to sit down are Boone, Walt and Michael.

And maybe his mother.

could someone refresh my memory about where Eko's body was buried? or was it?
i think I would even have to sit down if someone told me that Eko was the man.
all i can remember is him & yemi walking into the sunset.

now that would be some shiz if eko ended up not being dead.......completely, and perhaps recruited to do some spying for the betterment of the island.

could someone refresh my memory about where Eko's body was buried? or was it?
i think I would even have to sit down if someone told me that Eko was the man.
all i can remember is him & yemi walking into the sunset.

now that would be some shiz if eko ended up not being dead.......completely, and perhaps recruited to do some spying for the betterment of the island.

Eko is buried near where he died. Charlie, Locke, Sayid and Desmond were all there if I remember correctly.

okay, I agree that we will probably not be surprised by the reveal.

But in keeping with the speculation of this thread . . . wouldn't Locke need to sit down if Ben told him that his man on the boat is the guy currently eating Locke's grenade? :rolleyes:

The freighter could have picked up Michael and Walt, which would mean that Sayid's friend on the boat (Michael) is not Ben's man on the boat (Miles). Just a fun thought.

I think it's Ben's twin brother. I think that he has a brother who's a dentist, while he, Ben, is stuck on the Island.

I think the only people that it could be that would require Locke to sit down are Boone, Walt and Michael.

And maybe his mother.

Who could Ben bring onto the scene that would make Locke indebted to him forever?

Helen

Since so many posters seem to be unable to discuss this topic without spoiling others, this thread is closed for now. Seriously, guys, read the spoiler rules, they are there for a reason! :mad: