Her cold attitude is turning me off and really making me feel hostile towards her!

Why the Hell did she knock out Kate?! She had no right!:mad:

Speaking of the word "hostile" ... did you notice how many times it was used this episode? Claire used it when talking to Locke and I think Kate used it when talking to Charlotte and Daniel...

She's always pissed me off.

Something about her doesn't seem right, you know?

Well, I don't like her either, because I don't trust a thing she says. But you seem to be judging her as horrible just because she injured your favorite character. :ohwell:

People have been knocking each other out on the island since the show started. That's not what makes her a threat. What makes her a threat is that it seems she doesn't care if they rescue a single person, and still tries to insist she's in the right.

She's always pissed me off.

Something about her doesn't seem right, you know?

Charlotte is a cold hearted scum bag and the future mean girl!

I hate her now!

The only thing I was perplexed about was why it was necessary to clonk Kate rather than just explain that they were trying to help. (Oh yea, cause that would give away the "surprise" at the end.)

Adam, no need to get so riled up! Kate can't always have things going perfectly for her, that would be silly.

The only thing I was perplexed about was why it was necessary to clonk Kate rather than just explain that they were trying to help. (Oh yea, cause that would give away the "surprise" at the end.)

Adam, no need to get so riled up! Kate can't always have things going perfectly for her, that would be silly.

Hey! You know me, I'm overprotective and I can't help it.

No one messes with Kate verbally or physically!:chair::hammer:

I think that's the point since she's a "bad girl."

I think that's the point since she's a "bad girl."

Well, that "bad girl" better straighten up or Kate is going to do this to her!:chair:

What do you all think about the ending? Is Charlotte really just going to go explain what they did to Kate alone? I found it odd that Kate would just walk into the Tempest with the woman who knocked her out clod just hours before. Personally, I think that Charlotte may have another card up her sleeve when it comes to Kate.

I knew you would post this, Adam. :biggrin: Kate will be fine though. I know I wasn't too happy when they beat my favorite character, Ben, to a bloody pulp. At least Kate didn't have to go through that. Who knows, maybe she will get her revenge.

Hey! You know me, I'm overprotective and I can't help it.

No one messes with Kate verbally or physically!:chair::hammer:

At least you know Kate makes it off the island, right? Try latching onto one character just to watch her die miserably in the same season. :sob:

You've got it good being a Kate fan, I tell you! *shakes fist*

Well, at least Kate is the one that has the loaded gun pointed toward Charlotte.

(Looks around vigilantly)

What do you all think about the ending? Is Charlotte really just going to go explain what they did to Kate alone? I found it odd that Kate would just walk into the Tempest with the woman who knocked her out clod just hours before. Personally, I think that Charlotte may have another card up her sleeve when it comes to Kate.

I found it strange also that should would go into the station alone with Charlote the same person that just knocked her out a short time before.

Hey! You know me, I'm overprotective and I can't help it.

No one messes with Kate verbally or physically!

LOL, okay, she is lucky to have a champion like you then!

I think Charlotte is a very domineering personality and wouldn't get along with other dominant personality types (like Kate). She probably gets along so well with Farraday cause hes more of a submissive type.

Not every character is supposed to be cute and cuddly. If that was the case and all the freighters had the same personality as Dan and Frank it would be pretty boring.

The only thing I was perplexed about was why it was necessary to clonk Kate rather than just explain that they were trying to help. (Oh yea, cause that would give away the "surprise" at the end.)She had no way of knowing whether Kate (or any of the Losties is a mole for Ben or not). They know a lot about Ben, they also know about his manipulative nature. All it would have taken is someone to tell Ben that they were planning to disable the gas and he would have moved up his plan and tried to short-circuit their mission by releasing the gas and killing everyone. Think of it this way, if 3 years later the oceanic 6 came back to the island and found that the rest of the survivors have been kiled by a gas released by Ben and they found people who claim to be survivors of a ship-wreak, would they tell these people that they were here to disable the gas before actually doing it? I think not. Everyone knows that ben is 2 steps ahead and chances are that he would have planted in his mole in the camp.

LOL I <3 Charlotte. She's almost as tough as Juliette, and she gave Kate what she's long been needing, a knock to the head that confused her for a while. I doubt it will knock much sense into Kate though :( She'll still be indecisive ole selfish Kate. Aside from smacking her down, the "What?" to Daniel was good stuff too :D

You have to consider the fact that the Freighties are pretty uncertain about what's what, too. Charlotte and Dan were worried about the gas and didn't want to waste time explaining things to a person that may or may not have gotten in the way of their objective.

think kate kinda deserved it after slapping sawyer honestly. sides people knock eachother out here all the time. plus, time was limited, and they kinda wanted to, oh i dunno....save everyone on the island?

LOL I <3 Charlotte. She's almost as tough as Juliette, and she gave Kate what she's long been needing, a knock to the head that confused her for a while. I doubt it will knock much sense into Kate though :( She'll still be indecisive ole selfish Kate. Aside from smacking her down, the "What?" to Daniel was good stuff too :D

I don't like Charlotte, but yes, Kate deserved a good knock to the head. Pity it won't make her act in a more decisive manner, though...

I don't like Charlotte, but yes, Kate deserved a good knock to the head. Pity it won't make her act in a more decisive manner, though...

Hey, Rosemary, I live not far from you in Revere. Looooove Gloucester.

Anyway, I think it was about time Kate got knocked out. It's always the guys getting it.

Charlotte impressed the hell out of me tonight. Not only did she size up Kate as a liability, but took care of business. She's obviously bright, and is skilled in firearms and hand-to--hand combat! Awesome!

I don't like Charlotte either. Maybe there will be a FB that makes me understand her bitch-a-tude, but for now I hope Kate clocks her good!!

I think it was awesome to see Kate get knocked down... the reason is not that good, but seeing her getting hurt just makes me happy. I hate her

think kate kinda deserved it after slapping sawyer honestly. sides people knock eachother out here all the time. plus, time was limited, and they kinda wanted to, oh i dunno....save everyone on the island?


I shout "bullcrap" on that!

Sawyer had it coming for being a jerk!

Anyway, Kate deserves the up most respect from everyone in the community!:irked:

I shout "bullcrap" on that!

Sawyer had it coming for being a jerk!

Anyway, Kate deserves the up most respect from everyone in the community!:irked:

I'm a Jack fan, but even I can admit when he's being an a.s.s., just as Sawyer fans can admit the same about him, Ben fans, etc. So you can admit that Kate isn't always perfect. :rolleyes:

So you can admit that Kate isn't always perfect. :rolleyes:

I know she is not perfect but who is?! Kate deserves redemption and a second life!

(Certainly not Juliet!:mad: She is NOT PERFECT!)

I shout "bullcrap" on that!

Sawyer had it coming for being a jerk!

Anyway, Kate deserves the up most respect from everyone in the community!:irked:

Respect for?

Blowing up her step dad?
Almost getting Australian farmer John killed?
Waffling back and forth more times than republicans and democrats?
Lying from the moment she set foot on the island?
Getting other people to do her dirty work?
Executing a bank robbery to get a toy plane?
Getting her childhood sweetheart killed (you know..the family man)?


If missed what she deserves respect for, please fill me in (and hotness doesn't count).

I know she is not perfect but who is?! Kate deserves redemption and a second life!

(Certainly not Juliet!:mad: She is NOT PERFECT!)

Now, I'm not a huge Juliet fan, but I do think she deserves redemption. And if Kate deserves it even though she's not perfect, Juliet deserves it on the same grounds, wouldn't you say? Try to keep a level head about it.

And I'll start giving Kate my "utmost respect" when she starts earning it. :rolleyes: The post above by enigma420 perfectly conveys my thoughts as well, although I don't fault her for killing her abusive stepfather.

:irked: = Charlotte (she-devil)

:irked: = Charlotte (she-devil)

...somehow, that's not convincing me that Kate deserves my respect. :undecide:

I know she is not perfect but who is?! Kate deserves redemption and a second life!

(Certainly not Juliet!:mad: She is NOT PERFECT!)

NO ONE is perfect. I love Juliet, though. She was thrust into this situation basically against her will, and she's done what she's done to survive -- although nothing she's done has been that horrible.

loved the way she whacked Kate on the head,glanced at Dan and said"what?".

loved the way she whacked Kate on the head,glanced at Dan and said"what?".

Yeah, between that (someone said it best when they said Charlotte recognized Kate as a liability :D) and her putting up a good fight with Juliet, who everyone KNOWS is the last person with whom you would want to throw down in a mano-a-mano confrontation, I'd say Charlotte is climbing the ladder from "Yay a redhead" to interesting character status. Curious to see where she goes from here. I've thus far liked all our freighties.

I like Charlotte (the character and the beautiful woman), but I think she has a debt that Kate is going to collect.

If only Charlotte would have pulled that trigger and shot Kate in the head...

That would have made the episode "awesome" instead of just "great".

Charlotte is a horrible person? Kate is a murderer. She got her childhood friend killed. She has no regard for anyone else but herself and doesn't care who gets hurt because of her escapades. Spare me the "kate deserves redemption." She should rot in prison.

If only Charlotte would have pulled that trigger and shot Kate in the head...

That would have made the episode "awesome" instead of just "great".

Charlotte is a horrible person? Kate is a murderer. She got her childhood friend killed. She has no regard for anyone else but herself and doesn't care who gets hurt because of her escapades. Spare me the "kate deserves redemption." She should rot in prison.

Eggtown -- a blight on an otherwise perfect season.

I'm just not liking Charlotte so far. I'm still going to give her a chance though, since she's trying to help Daniel.

Hey! You know me, I'm overprotective and I can't help it.

No one messes with Kate verbally or physically!:chair::hammer:

haha... well, actually it seems like everyone verbally, physically AND emotionally messes with Kate... that's kind of her thing


and I like Charlotte more than I immediately loathed Ana Lucia, but that's not saying a whole lot!

I shout "bullcrap" on that!

Sawyer had it coming for being a jerk!

Anyway, Kate deserves the up most respect from everyone in the community!:irked:

sawyer was the jerk? i think anyone here on the forum can attest that while sawyer can be a real jerk, kate is the one being an *** to him, using him, backstabbing him, going bk and forth not making up her freaking mind.

and i fail to see ANYTHING, i repeat, ANYTHING that kate deserves respect for. and it seems like you are incapable of giving even one good reason why she deserves respect too. so, what exactly are you fighting for?

I'm just not liking Charlotte so far. I'm still going to give her a chance though, since she's trying to help Daniel.

It seems to me that she's using and manipulating him more than she's helping him. :undecide:

That's not why I dislike her, though. And once we get more information about her, I'll probably end up being converted to one of her fans if she's not unbearable. Out of the whole cast, I only really hate Michael. :mad:

She earned some points with me already, by clocking Kate upside the head. I'm hoping it only gets better from there.

Also, I agree with Princeex36. The OP hasn't come up with a single pro for Kate to stand against her long list of cons. And Sawyer may be a jerk and a half, but she's leading him on horribly, and Jack too. All Sawyer did was call her out on being a user, and she got mad because she knew he was right and she didn't expect him to hit her with the truth like that.

It seems to me that she's using and manipulating him more than she's helping him. :undecide:

That's not why I dislike her, though. And once we get more information about her, I'll probably end up being converted to one of her fans if she's not unbearable. Out of the whole cast, I only really hate Michael. :mad:

She earned some points with me already, by clocking Kate upside the head. I'm hoping it only gets better from there.

I dunno I kind of got the vibe that they were on the same level of knowledge. Their primary mission seems to be to neutralize the island's defenses and locate Ben. I have to agree with you on Michael.

Eggtown -- a blight on an otherwise perfect season.

QFT.

Also, I think Charlotte comes off rather protective of Daniel, but that's just how I see it. I hope their relationship is delved into further soon.

I dunno I kind of got the vibe that they were on the same level of knowledge. Their primary mission seems to be to neutralize the island's defenses and locate Ben. I have to agree with you on Michael.

I think she cares about Faraday, but that she's taking advantage of him. It could really go either way, though, and I'm guessing that you'll end up being right about her in the end. I just tend to assume the worst in most people until I know more about them. Bad habit, I know.

I did like one small part of Eggtown, the very end, and that's because I'm happy that TPTB aren't going to conveniently forget about the whole "raised by another" scenario. I'm interested to see how it'll play out concerning Aaron, but it's too bad Sun couldn't have gotten him instead. She, unlike Kate, is responsible and self-sacrificing enough to mother a child.

And Michael...oh, how I hate him! He annoyed me from the start, but killing Libby has ensured that he will never be redeemed in my eyes. :mad:

Also, I agree with Princeex36. The OP hasn't come up with a single pro for Kate to stand against her long list of cons. And Sawyer may be a jerk and a half, but she's leading him on horribly, and Jack too. All Sawyer did was call her out on being a user, and she got mad because she knew he was right and she didn't expect him to hit her with the truth like that.

She feels sorry for the crimes she committed.

She delivered Aaron.

Helped find Charlie in All The Cowboys Have Daddy Issues.

Helped rescue Jack in The Man From Tallahase

She feels sorry for the crimes she committed.

She delivered Aaron.

Helped find Charlie in All The Cowboys Have Daddy Issues.

Helped rescue Jack in The Man From Tallahase

She's never felt sorry about killing her stepfather, even though it crushed her mother. Who cares if she delivered Aaron. What was she gonna do, say no and end up alienated? A lot of people 'helped find charlie'. She went along the same reason she always went along, just in case there was an opportunity for her to capitalize on something or someone, and just so she would be in the loop. Jack/Kate is the classic broken/broken relationship. Jack is Kate's new Tom Brennan. So of course she'll rescue him, but she'll still keep ping ponging back and forth between sawyer and him until Juliet starts heating things up with Jack. That's why I hated that kiss...now we have to deal with Kate in whiny mode. Yay.

Thought is was weird that Kate went inside with Charlotte and Daniel so fast. I was actually looking forward to seeing her reaction to Jack kissing Juliet. Oh well, she got knocked out but she's OK. No harm, no foul.

She's never felt sorry about killing her stepfather, even though it crushed her mother. Who cares if she delivered Aaron. What was she gonna do, say no and end up alienated? A lot of people 'helped find charlie'. She went along the same reason she always went along, just in case there was an opportunity for her to capitalize on something or someone, and just so she would be in the loop. Jack/Kate is the classic broken/broken relationship. Jack is Kate's new Tom Brennan. So of course she'll rescue him, but she'll still keep ping ponging back and forth between sawyer and him until Juliet starts heating things up with Jack. That's why I hated that kiss...now we have to deal with Kate in whiny mode. Yay.

-She killed her scum bag of a birth father(he had it coming), not her step dad (who was actually nice).

-She cares for Claire

-How can you expect her to react? She is confused, alienated, lonely, and grief stricken. Give her a break.

She feels sorry for the crimes she committed.

She delivered Aaron.

Helped find Charlie in All The Cowboys Have Daddy Issues.

Helped rescue Jack in The Man From Tallahase

I already said that I don't fault her for killing her abusive stepdad, but you must have skipped over that.

Nearly every single main character so far has helped locate or save another character, but Kate still hasn't changed her behavior one bit. If she's sorry, she should show it by adjusting the way she acts. Words are just lipservice, and it doesn't seem like she cares enough to change, especially where love is concerned. Look at the way she's jerking Sawyer and Jack around. Sawyer didn't deserve the slap he got, because he was right. She wants Jack, but when she gets jealous of the attention he pays Juliet, she runs off to sleep with Sawyer. It's disgusting, and unfair to both men. I don't like Jack either, but Kate's more in the wrong about this than he is.

She only acts in someone else's interests if it won't get in the way of her own being fulfilled.

I think she cares about Faraday, but that she's taking advantage of him. It could really go either way, though, and I'm guessing that you'll end up being right about her in the end. I just tend to assume the worst in most people until I know more about them. Bad habit, I know.

I did like one small part of Eggtown, the very end, and that's because I'm happy that TPTB aren't going to conveniently forget about the whole "raised by another" scenario. I'm interested to see how it'll play out concerning Aaron, but it's too bad Sun couldn't have gotten him instead. She, unlike Kate, is responsible and self-sacrificing enough to mother a child.

And Michael...oh, how I hate him! He annoyed me from the start, but killing Libby has ensured that he will never be redeemed in my eyes. :mad:

As far as Raised by Another, it wouldn't matter if Sun got him or not, according to Malkin. I'm really curious to see where Aaron fits into all this. They did really make a big deal about him only to see his importance diminish significantly in the last two seasons.

She's never felt sorry about killing her stepfather, even though it crushed her mother. Who cares if she delivered Aaron. What was she gonna do, say no and end up alienated? A lot of people 'helped find charlie'. She went along the same reason she always went along, just in case there was an opportunity for her to capitalize on something or someone, and just so she would be in the loop. Jack/Kate is the classic broken/broken relationship. Jack is Kate's new Tom Brennan. So of course she'll rescue him, but she'll still keep ping ponging back and forth between sawyer and him until Juliet starts heating things up with Jack. That's why I hated that kiss...now we have to deal with Kate in whiny mode. Yay.

If I remember correctly, as you said Kate doesn't feel bad about her crimes at all...in fact, she was mad at her mother for giving her up! What a piece of work!!! "I committed cold-blooded murder, but it's my mom's fault for giving me up after I killed the man she loved!"

Give me a break. Charlotte should have shot Kate in the head and gotten it over with. That would have made the ep one of the best in LOST history, oh what could have been....

I already said that I don't fault her for killing her abusive stepdad, but you must have skipped over that.


She killed her birth father, not her step father.

She has changed. At a slow but steady rate.:)

You need to re watch her moments more.

As far as Raised by Another, it wouldn't matter if Sun got him or not, according to Malkin. I'm really curious to see where Aaron fits into all this. They did really make a big deal about him only to see his importance diminish significantly in the last two seasons.

I'd still rather see him with Sun, merely because with Kate responsible for his welfare, I feel sorry for the poor kid. :frown: Even if it won't make a difference, he'd at least be more stable before all hell broke loose (I'm assuming something like that will happen, anyway).

Kate is the kind of person who will fawn over their child only when it doesnt get in the way of other things she wants to do. The fact that she told Jack no unless he accepted Aaron seemed very out of character for her. One of her rare moments of good behavior.

-She killed her scum bag of a birth father(he had it coming), not her step dad (who was actually nice).

-She cares for Claire

-How can you expect her to react? She is confused, alienated, lonely, and grief stricken. Give her a break.

i guess everyone kate has ever wronged, has it coming to them huh?

so i guess that's about half the people on the island. since she's done some sort of usery, or trickery, or selfishness to almost everyone.

-She killed her scum bag of a birth father(he had it coming), not her step dad (who was actually nice).

-She cares for Claire

-How can you expect her to react? She is confused, alienated, lonely, and grief stricken. Give her a break.

It doesn't matter if he had it coming, it was still murder. It doesn't matter if he was a scum bag, it was still murder. She had no right to kill him, and shows no remorse for her crimes.

i guess everyone kate has ever wronged, has it coming to them huh?

so i guess that's about half the people on the island. since she's done some sort of usery, or trickery, or selfishness to almost everyone.

Yeah. It kills me that people got so mad at Hurley for using his friends once, and only once. Kate has done it countless times, on and off the island, and she still gets a Get Out of Jail Free card from most fans, whereas Hurley is a generally sweet guy who doesn't harm people.

Stop arguing about Kate. This thread is about Charlotte.

That being said, I thought she was AWESOME. Really kicked butt in this episode. Not only was she smart, decisive, beautiful and just capable, she was really tough and put up a really good fight with Juliet! She's though and she's beautiful and my favorite female character on the whole show.

Who cares if she has ulterior motives? Here we actually have a STRONG female character. The way she knocked out Kate... amazing. They didn't have time to start trying to explain to her that they were trying to do the right thing and blah blah, especially as it's not like the Losties are overt on trusting them. She just did what would save them a lot of needless trouble. Go, Charlotte!! She knows what she's doing. Brilliant character.

I really like Charlotte! She pulled the old switcheroo on Kate.
More please.
100%


Who cares if she has ulterior motives? Here we actually have a STRONG female character.
Yeah, totally. Hopefully they won't kill her off in a similar fashion to Ana Lucia.

Charlotte is so damn cold and needs to have a rock thrown at her head to straighten up her attitude.

Charlotte is so damn cold and needs to have a rock thrown at her head to straighten up her attitude.
No, you must be thinking of Kate. :)

Charlotte is so damn cold and needs to have a rock thrown at her head to straighten up her attitude.

I'm thinking you need to straighten up your attitude, Adam, and realize that not everyone can treat Kate like an angel. Kate was being a problem to Charlotte and Daniel, so they took care of it. It was smart, it was right. Don't make it all about Kate all the time. Because it's not.

And she shows genuine warmth to Daniel too. Great character.

Also: Infatuation with a character does not necessarily translate to that character having depth or being well written. On the flip side of that, just because a character is not "likable" does not mean they are not compelling and deep. Naturally.

Charlotte is so damn cold and needs to have a rock thrown at her head to straighten up her attitude.

Maybe she should have put a bullet in Kate's head instead...oh man that would be hot!!!

But no one has bluer eyes than Charlotte.

I sort of like the fact that an Oxford educated Anthropologist can kick serious ***. seriously.

Besides, they were on a mission, and clunking Kate over the head was the easiest way. If you were a lostie, would you believe her? --Clunking solves the problem, by removing you as a variable.

But no one has bluer eyes than Charlotte.

And man are they hot.

I <3 Charlotte.

Kate's always sticking her nose where it doesn't belong. She got bopped. Good.

Maybe I'm being pedantic, but I really hate the TV and movie plot device of whacking someone over the head. It always conveniently knocks the person out cold and never leaves permanent damage (very ocasionally you see the victim nursing a headache later). It's been done multiple times on LOST. In reality, that sort of blow can be fatal, even if it seems at first that nothing serious has happened.

Charlotte seems decently likable to me. And I think we've probably seen the worst of her attitude because shes just been a prisoner, and just been in a hostile situation where they all could have been killed.

I love that shes like a female indiana jones, with the brains and the badassery, (IMO Juliet can kick kate's *** and Charolotte would have had Juliette if not for the gun being there.) and I love we see her softer side when dealing with Faraday. At least she is kind to men.

Unlike others we've been discusing in this thread.
Seriously, there is more to like about charlotte in the few eps we've seen her than there is to like about kate in the entirety of the show thus far. The question to me isn't what one doesnt like about kate, its what the hell do they actually LIKE about her?

Sorry if this was already noted, but did anyone else notice the look Kate and Charlotte gave each other when they ran into one another in the jungle? To me, it was reminiscent of when Jack first saw Desmond in the Swan Hatch. Jack immediately remembered Desmond from the stadium and said with conviction, "You!"

To me, when Kate and Charlotte looked at each other it was as if they remembered the other from back in the 'real world'. Did anyone else notice their odd moment?

:mad: off with her head!!!

Maybe I'm being pedantic, but I really hate the TV and movie plot device of whacking someone over the head. It always conveniently knocks the person out cold and never leaves permanent damage (very ocasionally you see the victim nursing a headache later). It's been done multiple times on LOST. In reality, that sort of blow can be fatal, even if it seems at first that nothing serious has happened.

I dunno...when Jack found her she was pretty out of it. Seemed like she got at least a concussion from it. I understand where you are coming from, but it was nice in this case to see Kate get a beat down again.

Well, I don't like her either, because I don't trust a thing she says. But you seem to be judging her as horrible just because she injured your favorite character. :ohwell:

People have been knocking each other out on the island since the show started. That's not what makes her a threat. What makes her a threat is that it seems she doesn't care if they rescue a single person, and still tries to insist she's in the right.


I 100% agree with you. I get the feeling she is one of the most cold-hearted people ever to set foot on the island.

Charlotte is tough as nails. Not many other people would declare "you have to shoot us" to make them stop typing on a computer.

I fancy her.

:mad: off with her head!!!


lol, somehow i have a sneaky suspicion that this happens to be adam's other account to back herself up when no one else likes kate in the threads. ^.^ but i could be wrong.

hehe.

unless locke777 would like to give a reason why charlotte should lose her head?

I'd like just once for a male character in the show to receive this kind of criticism for being "cold hearted" or irritating. Not every character is meant to be likable in the sense that you'd like to have dinner with them!

Charlotte is the only thing keeping Daniel from deviating from the mission, so I like her a lot.

Stop arguing about Kate. This thread is about Charlotte.

Quite right.

That being said, I thought she was AWESOME. Really kicked butt in this episode. Not only was she smart, decisive, beautiful and just capable, she was really tough and put up a really good fight with Juliet! She's though and she's beautiful and my favorite female character on the whole show.

Who cares if she has ulterior motives? Here we actually have a STRONG female character. The way she knocked out Kate... amazing. They didn't have time to start trying to explain to her that they were trying to do the right thing and blah blah, especially as it's not like the Losties are overt on trusting them. She just did what would save them a lot of needless trouble. Go, Charlotte!! She knows what she's doing. Brilliant character.

Exactly. A highly inteligent (so-called) 'bad girl' who can kick some posterior. A great addition to the cast of characters, along with Daniel.

"What?" - Best line of the episode.

Her cold attitude is turning me off and really making me feel hostile towards her!

Why the Hell did she knock out Kate?! She had no right!:mad:

Someone has a crush on kate! Someone has a crush! ;)

Maybe I'm being pedantic, but I really hate the TV and movie plot device of whacking someone over the head. It always conveniently knocks the person out cold and never leaves permanent damage (very ocasionally you see the victim nursing a headache later). It's been done multiple times on LOST. In reality, that sort of blow can be fatal, even if it seems at first that nothing serious has happened.
Yeah, it's sort of canonical TV medical science. Like a lot of science, you just have to let it go in TV-land.

Yeah, it's sort of canonical TV medical science. Like a lot of science, you just have to let it go in TV-land.

Ahhhh, this brings to mind Mr Spock's use of the single chop with the side of the hand. ;)

To me, when Kate and Charlotte looked at each other it was as if they remembered the other from back in the 'real world'. Did anyone else notice their odd moment?
Um, I think they remembered each other from back at the helicopter. I think the look that Kate gave Charlotte was as if to say, "why are you giving me that hostile look with your gun pointed at me?"

Charlotte has to warm up to people before she trusts them. But then they can see her tender and caring side. Daniel digs her, for sure.

I have to say I also dislike Charlotte. I think she is stuck up and extremly irritating. Definatley the worst addition to the cast so far and she's getting far too much screen-time for my liking.

Stop bad-mouthing Charlotte!
SHE'S MINE!:twisted:

I'm officially requesting an I :heart: Charlotte sign.

Stop bad-mouthing Charlotte!
SHE'S MINE!:twisted:

I'm officially requesting an I :heart: Charlotte sign.


Good man! :)

Her cold attitude is turning me off and really making me feel hostile towards her!

Why the Hell did she knock out Kate?! She had no right!:mad:

I agree that Charlotte is acting very cold towards everybody on the island, but I think there is a very rational reason why she knocked Kate out. Remember, Miles said they know who Kate is and what she did. All that Charlotte knows when she hears Daniel say, "This is Kate," is that the murderer-fugitive is pointing a gun at her, so Charlotte takes advantage of the first opportunity to prevent her from interfering with their mission. Everybody except Jack seems to know that Kate is not to be trusted! That's why Charlotte turns to Daniel and says, "What!" It's simply common sense to knock out the most dangerous person on the island (next to Ben)!

That's not necessarily how I feel about them, but it's how I read the scene when I watched it.

Charlotte is definitely the most bad-*** archaeologist I've ever seen ... She reminded me of Naomi more than the Charlotte she seemed to be in her flashback.

Stop bad-mouthing Charlotte!
SHE'S MINE!:twisted:




You want to stare at her hair when she's looking through the microscope and make her ham with baby potatoes, don't you?

Hell yes, Charlotte is my freckly homegirl! I know a few people who would love to pull the same move on Kate.

How is she supposed to know Kate had to leave Otherville and she just broke up with her bf? As far as she's concerned, Kate is a wanted fugitive who willingly chose to stay in the camp of one crazy dude who killed Naomi and another creepy dude who shot her just two days ago. What reason does she have to believe Kate is not sent on a mission from Locke for instance? If Kate's dumb enough to bend down when the lying liar with a gun is standing behind her, tough luck.

I loved the "Wh0t?". Daniel did too, you know it. :biggrin:

Glad to see other people enjoying Charlotte too! :biggrin: Can't wait to see more of our girl.

Stop bad-mouthing Charlotte!
SHE'S MINE!:twisted:

I'm officially requesting an I :heart: Charlotte sign.


I second this! I love Charlotte; she has major potential to become my favorite Lost female. I dont understand why she's getting so much crap, it's like people are ok with mean/bad male characters (Swayer, Ben, Miles), but as soon as a female is strong and demanding everyone can't stand them. It's refreshing to see a girl kicking butt with her own agenda, all while being kind and caring towards Dan. Charlotte rocks!

I second this! I love Charlotte; she has major potential to become my favorite Lost female. I dont understand why she's getting so much crap, it's like people are ok with mean/bad male characters (Swayer, Ben, Miles), but as soon as a female is strong and demanding everyone can't stand them. It's refreshing to see a girl kicking butt with her own agenda, all while being kind and caring towards Dan. Charlotte rocks!

I wonder if the actors have just as much fun as we do here! We have an advantage, they can't see us! Do you suppose they make fun of us?:undecide: :biggrin:

I second this! I love Charlotte; she has major potential to become my favorite Lost female. I dont understand why she's getting so much crap, it's like people are ok with mean/bad male characters (Swayer, Ben, Miles), but as soon as a female is strong and demanding everyone can't stand them. It's refreshing to see a girl kicking butt with her own agenda, all while being kind and caring towards Dan. Charlotte rocks!

I know! I really don't understand where all the negativity towards Charlotte stems from. It was there right from the beginning when she was introduced. And that's a good point about people being OK with mean male characters.

I hate Charlotte too. She's a selfish lowlife of a character that can't control her barbaric attitude. I'd love to see her get dragged and ripped apart by the polar bear, please. :biggrin:

I hate Charlotte too. She's a selfish lowlife of a character that can't control her barbaric attitude. I'd love to see her get dragged and ripped apart by the polar bear, please. :biggrin:

Don't forget it is the WRITERS of the show that told Charlotte to hit Kate on the head. I would have had Charlotte tell Kate that they have a clue as to what Ben might to next and they need to work together to stop him. If Kate didn't agree to go with them, then.... um, gee knock her out? :biggrin: Maybe the writers had writer's block and couldn't come up with anything different?

Hey, Rosemary, I live not far from you in Revere. Looooove Gloucester.

Anyway, I think it was about time Kate got knocked out. It's always the guys getting it.

Awesome. I've seen a lot of people on this board who live nearby. We should have a MA Lost convention. ;)

And to the people saying male characters never get bashed for being annoying or mean: where shall I start? I could write an epic entitled Things Jack and Locke Have Done to Piss Me Off. It would be several volumes long, all of them hardcover with gold leaf on the page edges, I swear. :biggrin:

I would have had Charlotte tell Kate that they have a clue as to what Ben might to next and they need to work together to stop him. If Kate didn't agree to go with them, then.... um, gee knock her out? :biggrin:

Would you trust a wanted fugitive who willingly switched teams and stayed with the man who shot you, the guy you're trying to stop, to not just go along with you until you turned your back and she lunged at you? I'm not sure I would have.

Her cold attitude is turning me off and really making me feel hostile towards her!

Why the Hell did she knock out Kate?! She had no right!:mad:

Charlotte and the freighties have motives unknown to the viewer at this point, and their determination seems to vary (frank helping des/sayid, daniel appears "weak"..) But char bopping kate on the back of the noggin??? kate was asking for it, stooping down when she KNEW the phone batt. wasn't dead. char has every right...kate was potentially blocking the freighties agenda. (This scene produced my fav line btw....Daniel gives char a wtf look after the kate KO and char deadpans with a shrug: "What...?" brilliant!)

She is just a horrible actress.

I must say, the casting has been really bad with the last 2 English actors, Charlotte and Naomi. Both are terrible and sound like they are in a school play.

I know it's better having real English people than pretending, but christ there are thousands of good English actors in LA, just do a bigger casting!!

You got Sayid and Charlie, so it can't be that bad!

You want to stare at her hair when she's looking through the microscope and make her ham with baby potatoes, don't you?
yes. yes I do.

You got Sayid and Charlie, so it can't be that bad!

Don't forget Eko. Adewale's English too, even if the character wasn't (as with Sayid).

I think she is an interesting character

Her external appearance suits her character well

Would you trust a wanted fugitive who willingly switched teams and stayed with the man who shot you, the guy you're trying to stop, to not just go along with you until you turned your back and she lunged at you? I'm not sure I would have.

When did Charoltte and Daniel ever get the impression that Kate was on Ben's side? Charlotte knew that Ben was being held hostage.
To the outside world all of the O815 passangers are dead. She is no longer wanted or a fugitive, however, sharing information with Kate, if I had nothing to hide, would not be trusting her, but asking for her assistance. Not trusting a person with a criminal history makes sense and Charlotte knew her history. I still think violence is not always the answer on this show. The writers could do better, too much hitting and shooting going on. :)

When did Charoltte and Daniel ever get the impression that Kate was on Ben's side? Charlotte knew that Ben was being held hostage.
To the outside world all of the O815 passangers are dead. She is no longer wanted or a fugitive, however, sharing information with Kate, if I had nothing to hide, would not be trusting her, but asking for her assistance. Not trusting a person with a criminal history makes sense and Charlotte knew her history. I still think violence is not always the answer on this show. The writers could do better, too much hitting and shooting going on. :)

I think Miles would disagree with your assessment....

I think Miles would disagree with your assessment....

DON'T YOU MEAN BEN you know, the one who likes to kill hundreds at a time? I just think the writers are taking out their frustrations about the writers strick in their scripts.;)

I think that because she is english and is far more intelligent and better educated than the others on the island and she considers herself above the americans! Which could really be the case!

Don't forget Eko. Adewale's English too, even if the character wasn't (as with Sayid).


..and Desmond!

..and Desmond!

I thought Desmond was from Scotland... do you mean the actor is English?

Stakker was probably thinking 'British' rather than 'English'. Henry Ian Cusick is Scottish.

What do you all think about the ending? Is Charlotte really just going to go explain what they did to Kate alone? I found it odd that Kate would just walk into the Tempest with the woman who knocked her out clod just hours before. Personally, I think that Charlotte may have another card up her sleeve when it comes to Kate.

Exactly what I thought about Charlotte in this ep!

I like attitude and Charlotte certainly has that "-- :shrug: What?!" She was introduced with an agenda, not believing the papers' accounts of 815 and paying off the guy at the archeological site. So she is going to be an interesting character, when they start giving us more information about her. She's such an enigma right now.

But - after conking Kate and cat-fighting Juliette, why did Charlotte offer to take Kate inside the station and explain everything. Kate went with her - alone - then what happened?? Wasn't Kate being gullible again? Or did Juliette's bloody face and claim that Charlotte was helping them enough to make Kate trust her (given Kate's opinion of Juliette)? It just didn't make sense.

Don't get me wrong because I love Rebecca Mader but I always have the feeling that she's badly overacting. That's one of the reasons why I can't stand Charlotte.

Don't get me wrong because I love Rebecca Mader but I always have the feeling that she's badly overacting. That's one of the reasons why I can't stand Charlotte.

Tell the director! Rebecca is acting the way she is being instructed. I think she is doing great, so far. She can only get better as she begins to allow herself to chisel out her character and stop relying on the director.

Kate and Charlotte fighting.. Gee hard one to call, but I think Kate would win, since Charlotte basically lost to Juliet... Charlotte could have been restraining herself not wanting to hurt Juliet... Kate would win.

Well, Charlotte will never fall into my good graces.

Clubbing my favorite character is a bad idea.

Well, Charlotte will never fall into my good graces.

Clubbing my favorite character is a bad idea.

Which is probably why I loathe Ben. He manipulated Sayid somehow to make him kill people. Ben has kidnapped children and killed the man Juliet loved. Ben is just so bad, which means the actor is SO GOOD! :)

I hope Charlotte is punished in some way or form!

she took a cheap shot at Kate! What is next?! A cheap shot at Claire or Sun too for kicks?!:mad:

I hope Charlotte is punished in some way or form!

she took a cheap shot at Kate! What is next?! A cheap shot at Claire or Sun too for kicks?!:mad:

Well, probebly not. But she might fight with Julilet.. Oh, she did that. Next, maybe she'll be exposed to electromagnetic radiation and get dressed in chains? :biggrin: I can so see the writers do this! They are a bit STRANGE!;)

Well, probebly not. But she might fight with Julilet.. Oh, she did that. Next, maybe she'll be exposed to electromagnetic radiation and get dressed in chains? :biggrin: I can so see the writers do this! They are a bit STRANGE!;)

Actually, I see her more getting her punched in the nose for her mis-deed.

I'm still mad as Hell (that includes Mr. Friendly, Pickett, Juliet, Wayne).

Yeah, I need to get over it but I can't.

Actually, I see her more getting her punched in the nose for her mis-deed.

I'm still mad as Hell (that includes Mr. Friendly, Pickett, Juliet, Wayne).

Yeah, I need to get over it but I can't.

You're obviously a Romantic type! What about Jack! He claims to love Kate, but doesn't even ask her out, share rations with her, go for a walk on the beach, etc. Jack is too busy with Juliet, now. I don't think Kate should slap Sawyer, but tell Jack to take a hike! IMO. ;)

^^^Well......until Kate punches Charlotte right in her face, I'll always be angry.