Did anyone catch what they said? Juliet and Jack heard them this time.

I can't wait til someone figures this out. The whispers were quite loud this time.

I thought I heard the words "Island" "Not Real"

I can't wait til someone figures this out. The whispers were quite loud this time.

They were louder than usual.

They lasted longer, too. Did they sound as if they were in reverse, or played backward?

It almost seemed like they were helping create a diversion so Harper could slip away. They were just loud enough that I thought I could hear words, but couldn't make them out. I'd be interested to know if someone could analyse the audio.

Indeed they were much louder than usual... I thought - like another poster - that I heard "Island" somewhere in there as well... which of course is meaningless without knowing what the rest of the whispers were.

Aversion - You should check out the official "Whispers" thread. Lots of cool talk and people do analyze the audio. It's been going on for a few seasons now. :)

http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=55358

It almost seemed like they were helping create a diversion so Harper could slip away. They were just loud enough that I thought I could hear words, but couldn't make them out. I'd be interested to know if someone could analyse the audio.


I'll have to rewatch, but did anyone notice a brownish-orange blob when Harper vanished? I could have just imagined it.

I used to transcribe EVP's for kicks. So I pulled out the old software and reversing the whispers here is what I got pretty clear but there is still a couple that are really jumbled and need more time to decipher:

Female: Wheres Locke

Male: Go ask Aaron

Male: Shes already suffered enough
Male: Already suffered enough
Male: Already suffered enough

Female: Come on Ozzy

Male: Her eyes are closed

I'll have to rewatch, but did anyone notice a brownish-orange blob when Harper vanished? I could have just imagined it.

I noticed this too. 100% sure that it's just a flare from the torches that they were carrying. It didn't look suspect.

The impression I got was:

1. Harper was a manifestation of the Whispers herself

2. Juliet didn't seem confused or afraid of the Whispers

3. Juliet associated them with Ben


It didn't seem to me like Harper was a real person who just appeared and disappeared
in a flash, but more an apparition like Yemi or Wet Walt.

dvg, I thought the same, and wondered if when Ben uses telepathy (or Jacob) it allows Jacob to whisper at the same time Ben creates illusions. I'm new to this whispers thread and would be interested in whether the deciphered whispers tend to reflect Ben's wishes or whether they might counter them by providing more information than Ben would want known.

I used to transcribe EVP's for kicks. So I pulled out the old software and reversing the whispers here is what I got pretty clear but there is still a couple that are really jumbled and need more time to decipher:

Female: Wheres Locke

Male: Go ask Aaron

Male: Shes already suffered enough
Male: Already suffered enough
Male: Already suffered enough

Female: Come on Ozzy

Male: Her eyes are closed


Hmmm...interesting. Thanks!

Perhaps "Come on Ozzy" is "Kamakaze"?

I'm waiting for the day when the Whispers are explained and the boards rise up to cry shenanigans. I hope they never explain them, because we'll never be happy with the answer.

Before she goes into the Tempest, I clearly heard the name "Juliet" at least 2 times.
The whispers in the jungle with Jack sounded like they were backwards...they sounded pretty clear but backwards???

Hey Seahawkchick...the whispers that you transcribed, at what point of the episode did you hear them? (Tempest station, jungle scene, or another scene?) I would like to listen to that portion of the episode.

Thinking off the top of my head. They happened when cindy went awol and also when the therapy woman appeared in the last episode. Could they possibly be some sort of side effect of whatever the others use to get around the island so quick :confused:

Lets face it they dont half zoom about fairly rapid from place to place

Ok this is not my theory but a guy I work with thinks the Whispers may be voices heard during the opening and closing of a wormhole. Notice how they started right before Harper appeared and started again after she was gone.

Ok this is not my theory but a guy I work with thinks the Whispers may be voices heard during the opening and closing of a wormhole. Notice how they started right before Harper appeared and started again after she was gone.

Interesting....

I'd love to go back and watch other whisper incidents to see if that pattern exists.

After Harper disappears, and Jack is waving the gun around, it sounds like one of the whispers says, "Sarah....(inaudible).."

Go ask Aaron? He's a baby! lol

PS: Maddy, I looove your icon! :)

It almost seemed like they were helping create a diversion so Harper could slip away. They were just loud enough that I thought I could hear words, but couldn't make them out. I'd be interested to know if someone could analyse the audio.

Yeah, or the whispers and the illusion of Harper were one and the same. Smokey? Probably not, but either way, that chick was not real.

The Whispers thread is over 2000 posts...but isolate the ones where they cover the whispers and get caught up. Whispers are cool. Whispers occur when something is about to happen in the jungle. Whispers are cool. Something odd is certainly going to happen when the whispers begin. Whispers are cool. I'm going to the whispers board now, I just thought of something. (ouch.)

the way Harper appeared/dissapeared makes me believe there are tunnels all over the island.

the way Harper appeared/dissapeared makes me believe there are tunnels all over the island.
Really? It makes me believe she is dead and is materializing and dematerializing.

1st think I said when I heard the whispers and it starting raining was someone that is dead is going to appear. So if Juliette knows her(Harper) how did Jack see her too? I guess the same way Sawyer saw the horse?!? I am not sure.

I apologize in advance if this has been brought up, I was unable to do a search as it's disabled at this time.

Is there a time in which the whispers have occurred and one of the Losties has asked out loud if anyone else hears them too? It seems like no one ever says anything like "do you hear that? It sounds like people whispering!" I would be terrified if I heard whispers in the jungle and there wasn't anyone else around! :eek2:

I'm not sure but I believe Shannon did when Sayid was there just before she got shot by Ana Lucia.... can't be certain... been a while since I've watched that DVD set.

I believe Sayid and Rousseou discussed it when she captured Sayid in season 1. Other than that I don't think anyone has really mentioned it out right.

I think you are right that Sayid hears them when he is with Shannon just before she is shot and that is what convinces him to believe her.

I think Shannon and Sayid were talking about seeing Walt. I think it's pretty obvious the other person can hear you cause they're waving the torches around looking pretty scared.

maybe the voices have something to do with the island being behind time

From the episode "Outlaws":


SAWYER: Sayid --

SAWYER: What did you hear?

SAWYER: After you ran into the French Woman, you said you heard something in the jungle...

SAYID: I was injured and exhausted. My mind was playing tricks on me...

SAWYER: What did you hear?

SAYID: I thought I heard... whispering.

SAWYER: What was it saying?

SAYID: Why? Did you hear something?

Yeah, Sayid and Shannon both saw walt. And around the same time, Ana Lucia's group all heard the same whispering... maybe a couple times.

one of our losties should just say, "HELLO, I HEAR YOU. COULD YOU PLEASE STOP WHISPERING BEHIND MY BACK. IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY, SAY IT TO MY FACE OR DON'T SAY IT AT ALL. YOU'RE BEING VERY RUDE."

I'm not sure but I believe Shannon did when Sayid was there just before she got shot by Ana Lucia.... can't be certain... been a while since I've watched that DVD set.

Yeah, a Walt apparition. I believe in one of Walt's appearances he speaks backwards and if I'm not mistaken the whisper was translated as saying. "S-h-h-h.....they're coming...they're close." Which reminds me so much of what the current whispers are saying. I believe in the recent whispers they also saying something about "someone is coming." Really strange. Didn't Danielle hear whispers telling her that "they were coming" way back in S1?

Really? It makes me believe she is dead and is materializing and dematerializing.

Couldn't agree more. A manifestation of a dead Harper.

one of our losties should just say, "HELLO, I HEAR YOU. COULD YOU PLEASE STOP WHISPERING BEHIND MY BACK. IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY, SAY IT TO MY FACE OR DON'T SAY IT AT ALL. YOU'RE BEING VERY RUDE."
Hm, sounds like something Charlotte might say! Maybe that's her special gift for why she was chosen for the mission. :biggrin:

Couldn't agree more. A manifestation of a dead Harper.The first thing Juliet says to Harper in the scene is: "What are you doing here?" Typically not the first thing you'd say to a person you know is dead...

The first thing Juliet says to Harper in the scene is: "What are you doing here?" Typically not the first thing you'd say to a person you know is dead...


Actually, that seems like exactly the kind of thing one might say but maybe I'm just
that way.

I'm waiting for the day when the Whispers are explained and the boards rise up to cry shenanigans. I hope they never explain them, because we'll never be happy with the answer.
If they never explain the whispers, then I'll cry, because that is terrible writing, to include something like that with absolutely no idea why or how it works

If they never explain the whispers, then I'll cry, because that is terrible writing, to include something like that with absolutely no idea why or how it works

I couldn't agree more. There are so many unexplained things and not much time to explain them.

The first thing Juliet says to Harper in the scene is: "What are you doing here?" Typically not the first thing you'd say to a person you know is dead...

Perhaps, but who's to say that Juliet's aware of the fact that she's dead? We've seen dead people manifest themselves on the island (Christian). It would be far too convenient, and quite frankly outlandish, for Jack and Juliet to have happened to have stopped right by one of the tunnels that many people speculate about. She's either manifesting in the same way that Walt manifested to Shannon, or she's a spirit. That effect in itself is linked directly to the whispers. Just my theory. It'll probably be proven wrong.
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If they never explain the whispers, then I'll cry, because that is terrible writing, to include something like that with absolutely no idea why or how it works

Certain mysteries can, for me, remain unanswered. The whispers aren't one of those mysteries.

though "tunnels" may not be popular, this idea brings me too remember when Locke was being dragged down by smoke monster and it seemed as though there was hollowness underneath the island

though "tunnels" may not be popular, this idea brings me too remember when Locke was being dragged down by smoke monster and it seemed as though there was hollowness underneath the island

Just to clarify, I didnt say that I don't believe that tunnels exist on the island, and that they are used by The Others. Rather, that I would find I hard to believe that Jack and Juliet had just happened to stop right on top of one. All to convenient were that to be the way TPTB explained Harper's appearance.

Certain mysteries can, for me, remain unanswered. The whispers aren't one of those mysteries.

Yeah, well I am hoping that they don't literally go through every mystery in the show and spell out what it's about. But by the end of the series, it would be good if they had explained enough of the big stuff, and dropped enough viable hints for us to put it all together.

Yeah, well I am hoping that they don't literally go through every mystery in the show and spell out what it's about. But by the end of the series, it would be good if they had explained enough of the big stuff, and dropped enough viable hints for us to put it all together.

I agree. What I want though is a show that, when all is said and done, still allows me to come back and try to put certain things together. To keep me theorising. I've said in one of the General Theories threads that there will be no point for me to rewatch this show, when it's finished, if everything is neatly tied up. Twin Peaks is an extreme example (because it's so 'out there' and complicated), but I rewatch it all the time and see new things.

I agree. What I want though is a show that, when all is said and done, still allows us to come back and try to put certain things together. To keep us theorising. I've said in one of the General Theories threads that there will be no point for me to rewatch this show, when it's finished, if everything is neatly tied up. Twin Peaks is an extreme example (because it's so 'out there' and complicated), but I rewatch it all the time and see new things.

Yeah, that will be good if it works that way. The main thing I want is just for things to actually make sense. Whether they are 100% explained or not is not so important, just that there is a possible explanation that could be reached, that the writers have in mind. If they're just sat their thinking up creepy things for creepinesses sake, then that's not very interesting

Yeah, that will be good if it works that way. The main thing I want is just for things to actually make sense. Whether they are 100% explained or not is not so important, just that there is a possible explanation that could be reached, that the writers have in mind. If they're just sat their thinking up creepy things for creepinesses sake, then that's not very interesting

Yes. Plausibility within the structure and setup that we have been given will be key. The same with any great piece of television, literature, film, etc.

though "tunnels" may not be popular, this idea brings me too remember when Locke was being dragged down by smoke monster and it seemed as though there was hollowness underneath the island

I think these are the CV Vents referred to on the blast door map. Smokeys preferred method of transversing the island.

so what did the whispers actually say? i am not going to sift through 200+ pages of the Whispers thread because when i do i just end up wanting to throw my laptop against the wall. is the earlier post correct in what the whispers said?

Harper doesn't need to be dead for her spirit to manifest itself. It's called astral travel, when the body and spirit separate.. and is practiced by many groups involved in ESP (extra sensory perception).

Harper doesn't need to be dead for her spirit to manifest itself. It's called astral travel, when the body and spirit separate.. and is practiced by many groups involved in ESP (extra sensory perception).

That's what I had in mind when I said "She's either manifesting in the same way that Walt manifested to Shannon....". Walt has undeniable powers of ESP. The whispers seemed to be a precursor to Walt's appearance to Shannon. However, for the time being, I'm stuck with my belief that she's dead. Walt seems to be the only one with his particular powers. Ben explicitly stated that they got more than they bargained for when they had Walt. It makes me believe that they hadn't encountered his 'kind' before, and that wouldn't make sense if Harper had the same power.

i really like 'whispers are dead people on the island' theorys

The whispers were also a precursor to (taller ghost) Walt's appearance to Locke.

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I've isolated (and tweaked) the whispers (from a meager stereo file), and this is what I heard:


First set of whispers.


Man: Something's happening... (or "See what's happening"?)

Woman: (unintelligible)...is it safe enough?

Man: There's another one, (unintelligible, sounds like "General").

Man: See what's happening, yeah?

Man: See what's happening, (unintelligible, sounds like "Nada" or "Not us").

Man: Curtain (??)

Man: Who is it?

Man: Juliet.

Man: Jacob.

Woman: Going out dancing. (?? Or maybe "Going out unseen?")

Man: Hurry back...dead.

(The above "hurry back" part, when reversed, sounds just like "Daniel")

Man: It has him.

Man: We need to talk to you.

I had a lot of trouble with the second set:

Second set of whispers:

Man: Say goodnight.

Man: (unintelligible)

Man: Jacob...

Man: Should I hit him?

Woman: Hide! (or in reverse: "Help!")

Man: ...get up! (reversed)

Man: See what's... ("happening", same as in first set)

Man: (unintelligible, but could be "Daniel")

Whether or not Harper is dead, Juliet doesn't seem at all surprised that she appeared or reappeared out of nowhere... which makes me want to know if this is a type of communication well known on the island? It reminded me of the hologram messages in star wars.

Whether or not Harper is dead, Juliet doesn't seem at all surprised that she appeared or reappeared out of nowhere... which makes me want to know if this is a type of communication well known on the island? It reminded me of the hologram messages in star wars.Juliet at first seemed confused by the whispers, looking around and calling for Jack. And looking around more when they start up again.

What's interesting is Juliet asks how Ben can know where the freighties are when he's a prisoner, but not how Ben can send Harper to deliver a message. They also refer to Ben in the third person, so apparently it's not like Juliet is speaking directly to Ben himself...

The whispers were also a precursor to (taller ghost) Walt's appearance to Locke.

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I've isolated (and tweaked) the whispers (from a meager stereo file), and this is what I heard:




I had a lot of trouble with the second set:
That's incredible.. thanks for the work you did.. Reading it, it almost could be Harper speaking to someone before she astral-travels to Juliette. She is discussing it with some man who tells her to hurry back. Then someone of more authority is coming, and they have to choose whether to hide or 'hit him'.
When you are quoting 'Man'.. is it one man's voice or different men? That might help to decipher the meaning.
But regardless, it sounds like (if the whisper woman is Harper) that she is making the visit to Juliette in secret.. and not on the directive of Ben.
Very very cool. TKS again.

When you are quoting 'Man'.. is it one man's voice or different men? That might help to decipher the meaning.It's too hard to tell whether they're the same person or not...

so what did the whispers actually say? i am not going to sift through 200+ pages of the Whispers thread because when i do i just end up wanting to throw my laptop against the wall. is the earlier post correct in what the whispers said?
From my analysis they are mostly in another language. It sounds like it could be Arabic, or some other semitic or related language. The first set were mostly identical to what Hurley heard earlier.

There was one part, that may have been English (the left channel in the second set). But it is very buried. All I could make out was "Jacob said".

Not sure if this has been posted, sorry! Anyhow just something I've noticed this season. Might be something, might not be that big of a deal...

Maybe as each week becomes more & more intense, you turn the TV
up a little bit, one week at a time?!
or
Maybe, yes.... They do seem a little less distant so far, but then again
I got my surround sound hooked up just before the season started.

You can listen to the audio here
http://getlostpodcast.com/2008/03/07/lost-episode-406--the-other-woman-easter-eggs-whispers-audio.aspx
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someone probably already said this but
the Whispers say "sarah" and "Sarah's having a...." and it supposedly sounds like Christians voice. jacks ex was sarah but when Christian takes Ana Lucia to Australia he doesnt know her real name, he says he will call her sarah.
This isnt the first time the whispers talked about Ana Lucia either, although the other whisperers knew her real name and that she was going to shoot Shannon.
They keep bringing up Ana Lucia's name this season, there has to be a reason for that, right?