Just checking with y'all whether that was Regina who killed herself on the freighter. I thought she'd end up being a much more major player, since she was the one answering the sat phone.

Yea that was here. Maybe she was really close with Naomi and her death drove her to that.

I don't think it was because of Naomi. Remember the captain saying that there was a case of "cabin fever" among the crew, plus it was pretty clear that someone had shot themselves in the quarters they were giving Sayid and Des.

Oh, and yep, it was Regina.

Regina appeared to be extremely nervous and weirded out in this epi....
And than she jumped ship...literally
However in contrast, she seemed pretty together when she helped Daniel with his rocket experiment and when she had to take over for Miles when he went crazy....

While she didnt seem ccrazy with the same kind of time travel stuff going on ....I wonder why she would just "end" it all when the "end" of the voyage seems tobe coming....

I also wondered if she jumped into an underwater station....

I'm surprised also, we hardly got to see anything from her. Weird how people can just kill themselves and the crew goes on like nothing happened. They must be having a rough time lately.

im pretty sure it was her, looked almost fatter though(hard to tell with chains on), really odd they would have her and then finally show her onscreen and dust her instantly...

Ummmm.....,literally!!

The upside-down book was a great device to show her despair as well. How eerie to see her walking with the heavy chains.

Hey, it is Lost. We may rewind a bit and get to know Regina yet, yes?

Regina appeared to be extremely nervous and weirded out in this epi....
And than she jumped ship...literally
However in contrast, she seemed pretty together when she helped Daniel with his rocket experiment and when she had to take over for Miles when he went crazy....

While she didnt seem ccrazy with the same kind of time travel stuff going on ....I wonder why she would just "end" it all when the "end" of the voyage seems tobe coming....

I also wondered if she jumped into an underwater station....
Really good point!

She may have used the chains to weight herself down to get somewhere (as opposed to kill herself)...I hope it's the former...

I wonder if she's got something that she's taking off the freighter? :confused:

Really good point!

She may have used the chains to weight herself down to get somewhere (as opposed to kill herself)...I hope it's the former...

I wonder if she's got something that she's taking off the freighter? :confused:

I think you have it right...no one was worried or alarmed because she's not dead. Regina was going under to something... one of those portals around the island? Maybe she was tired of being on the boat and left for somewhere else.

I thnk it was a trick. They wanted you to think she was crazy and suicidal but I think she knows there is a way to escape. The chains reminded me of Charlie's rock belt to drop faster. She's going down to a station or somewhere she can teleport out.

I think you have it right...no one was worried or alarmed because she's not dead. Regina was going under to something... one of those portals around the island? Maybe she was tired of being on the boat and left for somewhere else.
I think the "cabin fever" story was a cover...Regina is on a mission...

I love Frank, but I distrust him more than before...hmmmm. ;)

The upside-down book was a great device to show her despair as well. How eerie to see her walking with the heavy chains.


Yeah, that really struck me as well. It gave her a ghostly appearance, even prior to her death. Very sad, the despair she must've been feeling. The chains made it crystal clear how serious her intent was.

The book was upside down because she was pretending to read... How do you interpret that.

She didn't want to talk to Frank
or she wanted him to see her reading to impress him
or she quickly grabbed th ebook when she heard him coming to cover up that she had just been sleeping.

Remember the note said not to believe the Captain. The Captain was lying about cabin fever and I think everyone knew what Regina was doing and that's why they didn't react. She was trying to escape by time travelling from some point underwater. I think everyone on the ship seems to know a lot about the time space anomolies going on and they're not saying.

At the risk of repeating myself..Regina is on a mission...

I hate to say it, but the captain was kind of hot...

The Captain was hot in a very Old Spice kind of way.

What did he say besides accusing Ben of the faked crash, saying that the crew were getting cabin fever and that the boat couldn't leave the area?

I can't remember if he said anything else. Are we supposed to believe Ben's mole that the Captain is lying... Plah!

Regina is up to no good, most likely following Captain's orders. She quite obviously isn't doing what she appears to be doing, as if the book clue weren't a big red flag.

Regina is up to no good, most likely following Captain's orders. She quite obviously isn't doing what she appears to be doing, as if the book clue weren't a big red flag.
Great username and awesome LOST catchup that you've done! :thud:

Yep, upside down book = red flag. ;)

The upside-down book was a great device to show her despair as well. How eerie to see her walking with the heavy chains.

Hey, it is Lost. We may rewind a bit and get to know Regina yet, yes?
i would speculate we'll see her in Kevin Johnson's flashback

Im pretty sure shes dead, she was completely wraped up in the chains, if she was just gonna use them to weigh herself down i doubt she would be completely tied up like she was. But it did look like someone must have at least helped her out from what i saw i find it hard to believe that she could have wraped herself up like that.

Remember the note said not to believe the Captain. The Captain was lying about cabin fever and I think everyone knew what Regina was doing and that's why they didn't react. She was trying to escape by time travelling from some point underwater. I think everyone on the ship seems to know a lot about the time space anomolies going on and they're not saying.


The crew not seeming to care was very strange.....if she did have an "escape route" then I hope she aimed well cause with those chains wrapped around her she's sinking fast!

She wasn't completely wrapped up, she just had them hanging around her neck. She turns her head in a dive underwater when she's ready and they drop off.

I was so psyched to see more of her. Loved her in "Death Proof". She has to be dead, it would be lame is she isn't dead.

I'm wondering how the book thing is a clue that she is on some sort of mission?

I think she killed herself guys. There was clear evidence of another suicide in the cabin at the end (the blood splatter on the wall that looks exactly like a gunshot wound to the head...)

What was the connection with the banging sounds Sayid and Desmond were hearing before they were taken to the captain? Sayid thought someone was hitting pipes repeatedly - was that Regina as well? That part confused me.

I don't think it was because of Naomi. Remember the captain saying that there was a case of "cabin fever" among the crew, plus it was pretty clear that someone had shot themselves in the quarters they were giving Sayid and Des.

Oh, and yep, it was Regina.

im thinking that those scenes were to show us what the "sickness" is that danielle mentioned that wiped out her crew. it is also affecting some, if not all, of the freighties.

Good idea, this is another possibility for "the sickness". I still think its more likely to be the time traveling thing though. If the island somehow is causing these suicides I wonder why its just the frieghties and not our Losties? Perhaps its something to do with the freighter itself.

I was thinking the banging was just the action of another person on the boat who was being driven crazy by cabin fever.

Well, I don't see a good reason to believe that Regina is alive. Everything we were shown on screen points to her being dead, but this is Lost, so the possibility exists that she is alive.

I'm wondering how the book thing is a clue that she is on some sort of mission?

I think she killed herself guys. There was clear evidence of another suicide in the cabin at the end (the blood splatter on the wall that looks exactly like a gunshot wound to the head...)

I think the book was just a device to show that the mission they are on is taking its toll. She's completely lethargic.

I think she killed herself too, and am hoping that THIS isn't the reason we shouldn't trust the Captain.

I just don't know... But I'm perplexed that they would introduce both Regina and Minkowski to us over the sat pone, and make them both seem to be very in charge, together sort of people who held what seemed to be fairly responsible positions on the freighter, only to have both of them gone before we get to know them. I have to ask myself why their death(s) help to move the plot forward.

Maybe the deaths (or possible escape for Regina) are meant to distinguish the actual crew on the freighter from the people who were sent to do this special mission. After all, the Captain and his boys seemed OK. Maybe it's to their benefit that these other people die or get LOST? I'm just thinking there are underlying motives at work, and we don't have enough info on whose side everyone is really on.

How long has that freighter been out there?

Did you catch the book Regina wasn't reading - The Survivors of the Chancellor: Diary of J. R. Kazallon, Passenger by Jules Verne. You can get a recap on Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Survivors_of_the_Chancellor). Creepy book and recounts suicides at sea by some of the survivors of a sinking ship.

I think they gave Regina chains because Zoë Bell is a stuntwoman-turned-actor best know for her role in Grindhouse (Quentin's Deathproof). Sort of an homage to stunts/Houdini/etc.

Or maybe I'm reading too much into it. ;)

I thought Regina just killed herself, but all this talk reminded me of something...

A very drenched Walt appearing to Shannon. Maybe there is another time portal under water that Walt used to communicate at some point. He was wet because he had to go underwater to get to it.

I thought Regina just killed herself, but all this talk reminded me of something...

A very drenched Walt appearing to Shannon. Maybe there is another time portal under water that Walt used to communicate at some point. He was wet because he had to go underwater to get to it.

Walt appeared places dripping wet. Joanna was a skilled swimmer and scuba diver and simply vanished in the water. That episode was "White Rabbit". Connect that to the Looking Glass, the underwater station that was first revealed via the cable in the sand way back in Solitary, shortly after White Rabbit aired. What is it's symbol? A white rabbit with a black hole in it's neck. Joanna may have been the first white rabbit that went through the rabit hole/looking glass and time travelled off the island via the ocean. Charlie may have too, the title Through the Looking Glass is significant and is symbolized by Hurley's vision of Charlie swimming and busting through the mirror. Even if there really is a form of time psychosis on the ship, I think the crew knows about the time anomaly and knows that Regina didn't jump in to die, she jumped to escape. Remember we were told not to trust the captain, he's not telling the truth about Regina.

Walt appeared places dripping wet. Joanna was a skilled swimmer and scuba diver and simply vanished in the water. That episode was "White Rabbit". Connect that to the Looking Glass, the underwater station that was first revealed via the cable in the sand way back in Solitary, shortly after White Rabbit aired. What is it's symbol? A white rabbit with a black hole in it's neck. Joanna may have been the first white rabbit that went through the rabit hole/looking glass and time travelled off the island via the ocean. Charlie may have too, the title Through the Looking Glass is significant and is symbolized by Hurley's vision of Charlie swimming and busting through the mirror. Even if there really is a form of time psychosis on the ship, I think the crew knows about the time anomaly and knows that Regina didn't jump in to die, she jumped to escape. Remember we were told not to trust the captain, he's not telling the truth about Regina.

That is all a very good point and it will be interesting to see if it pans out. Before I got to your post though I was going to suggest that maybe someone committed suicide by wrapping themselves in chains and jumping overboard in the book she was reading. Even if that is the case, it still does not discount that she might end up in an underwater portal.

I would think that if she was jumping to escape she would have snuck off the boat, not jumped of the upper deck in front of everyone. Also, the underwater station was in fairly shallow water compared to being "out at sea" like the freighter is.

Captain Gault maybe a liar and a badguy, but I don't think he was lying about the crew going crazy. The proximity of the island is for some reason driving them insane. Regina was going insane. She was behaving weirdly when Frank came by and her reading the book upside down... she was quickly losing it. And that culminated to her killing herself.

She's deader than dead now. Sleeping with the fishes. Fish food.

i still wonder if she was jumping into another station of some sort...

Anyone else notice she was the same girl in Death Proof?

What was the connection with the banging sounds Sayid and Desmond were hearing before they were taken to the captain? Sayid thought someone was hitting pipes repeatedly
maybe that was michael attempting to communicate with sayid in morse code? but, i suppose sayid would've notice if they were...

Did you catch the book Regina wasn't reading - The Survivors of the Chancellor: Diary of J. R. Kazallon, Passenger by Jules Verne. You can get a recap on Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Survivors_of_the_Chancellor). Creepy book and recounts suicides at sea by some of the survivors of a sinking ship.

Thanks for the link!

I would think that if she was jumping to escape she would have snuck off the boat, not jumped of the upper deck in front of everyone. Also, the underwater station was in fairly shallow water compared to being "out at sea" like the freighter is.

EW's Jeff Jensen theorized that "the Island is located within a time-space anomaly that extends out into the ocean. Different points along the boundary of the anomaly lead to different places and/or different times. For example, after the chopper flew through the perimeter, Lapidus, Sayid, and Desmond landed on the freighter a full day after they left the Island, even though they had spent just 20 minutes in the air."

I like this theory. I'm not suggesting Regina tried to reach the Looking Glass or any other station, I'm saying that just as the helicopter and Daniel's rocket can pass through a time/space barrier in the air, Regina, Joanna, Charlie or anyone can pass through one in the water. I don't think the station itself is what's important.

I don't think we've seen the last of her, especially since the actress has been credited in every episode this season, like Harold Perrineau. My question is, will her story be told in flashbacks? Did she really commit suicide or is something else going on?

No.. they were confirming the fact that people were cabin crazy....someone shot themselves, someone jumps off the boat...the captain mentions people are having 'heightened cabin fever'...... Regina wasn't going to a portal or a station under the water. She's a gonner.

Yeah, that really struck me as well. It gave her a ghostly appearance, even prior to her death. Very sad, the despair she must've been feeling. The chains made it crystal clear how serious her intent was.
As did her book. Not exactly what you want to be reading when your stuck on a boat with a series of mishaps are happening, and you're trying to fight despair!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Survivors_of_the_Chancellor

I would think that if she was jumping to escape she would have snuck off the boat, not jumped of the upper deck in front of everyone. Also, the underwater station was in fairly shallow water compared to being "out at sea" like the freighter is.
Maybe that is exactly why she had to "weigh herself" down with chains? This portal/station is located at a greater depth? The fact that she jumped in front of everyone could have to do with the "cabin fever" thats infected the boat. Maybe she just wanted "out" and didn't care anymore if she was disobeying captain's orders by abandoning her post?

Just a thought...

I read a theory about Regina's suicide by a guy who writes for Entertainment Weekly. He writes that she jumped overboard because she and Naomi were lovers. He also mentions that the bracelet Naomi wore could have been given to her by Regina, since the first initial of the giver's name is "R"

Interesting thought.
100%
What was the connection with the banging sounds Sayid and Desmond were hearing before they were taken to the captain? Sayid thought someone was hitting pipes repeatedly - was that Regina as well? That part confused me.

Didn't the captain say something to the guys about engine sabotage when he was asked if the boat was moving??? I'd have to go back and look at it again. Couldn't the banging have been Michael wrecking the engines?

She wasn't completely wrapped up, she just had them hanging around her neck. She turns her head in a dive underwater when she's ready and they drop off.

This is totally OT, but PJ -- every time I see your avy I get a pang. :undecide:

I was just getting ready to post about Jeff Jensen's theory about Regina being Naomi's lover and being despondent about her death. I think it's as good a theory as any and that, coupled with the crazies that are going on on board the freighter would certainly explain her suicide. Which, in my opinion, is what it was. Nothing more or less. But hey...it's Lost, ya never know!

As did her book. Not exactly what you want to be reading when your stuck on a boat with a series of mishaps are happening, and you're trying to fight despair!




Am I the only one that thought the whole holding-the-book-upside-down thing was a cover for Regina getting unstuck like Des and Minkowski? It seemed to me like she was holding the book so that if she slipped somewhere else in time, it'd just look like she was deep into her book, and not gapping out with "the sickness".

After seeing Minkowski and then Des locked up because of it, maybe she wanted to keep it hidden from the rest of the crew. She seemed totally surprised that she was holding it wrong, like she was coming out of a fog or something.
That was my initial reaction after seening the scene.

Thoughts?

First time poster, please be kind!!

I don't think Regina's suicide has anything to with portals or stations or anything, I'm pretty sure it was just a plain old suicide. I do have to admit that I like ide of her being Naomi's lover though, it adds depth to the characters, and more emotion to Regina's suicide.

Am I the only one that thought the whole holding-the-book-upside-down thing was a cover for Regina getting unstuck like Des and Minkowski? It seemed to me like she was holding the book so that if she slipped somewhere else in time, it'd just look like she was deep into her book, and not gapping out with "the sickness".

After seeing Minkowski and then Des locked up because of it, maybe she wanted to keep it hidden from the rest of the crew. She seemed totally surprised that she was holding it wrong, like she was coming out of a fog or something.
That was my initial reaction after seening the scene.

Thoughts?

First time poster, please be kind!!

Pretty good post for a first timer! It never occured to me that she might be trying to avoid the consequences of her own time slippage, but that makes a lot of sense.

Having to deal with 'the sickness' AND your friend/lover (Naomi) dying would be a lot to deal with..... too much for her, apparently.

What I don't get is how fast this sickness affected Regina. Didn't she just run that experiment with Daniel like a day ago? She was fine then.

The Freighter Four wanted to talk with her but not Minkowski, b/c they must have known about his strange behavior. So his time jumping was going on for awhile before he died, I'm guessing. But Regina - how did she go from in charge of communications and normal to suicidal so fast? :confused:

Since she was communications officer/contact on the ship -- did she go crazy and trash the equipment? I want to know more about Regina!

Since she was communications officer/contact on the ship -- did she go crazy and trash the equipment? I want to know more about Regina!
Heck, I still want to know more about Naomi!!!

At first I was going with the "she's not dead" thing, thinking he was on a mission. But what mission could that be? She wrapped herself in chains. Unlike Charlie's rock belt, her chains aren't coming off with any type of ease...which to me means she intended to sink and not surface. So unless there is something way below that allows her an escape, which I find to be a stretch tbh, it was just plain ol' suicide as a means to show that whatever's affecting the crew is serious business. They have at least 3-4 dead (if that blood isn't Minkowski's Brandon) in a matter of days.

I do like the idea of the upside down book being a cover for her time consciousness jumping.

I figured her for a suicide - but I love the Houdini mention above... his water escape is legendary :smile: add to that his scepticism of the 'other worldly', spiritualism and the like, and that he once bore a name meaning 'white' and Harry is a wonderful idea for tribute in this scene.

I was with Dickens' Jacob Marley up until being spoilt for choice. Charlie's divers weight belt is a nice idea too... but I think she meant to kill herself just the same; her book being held upside down because she had forgotten how to read.

Heck, I still want to know more about Naomi!!!

Agreed!
I can't believe how intriguing these Freighties are. Normally I don't like new people that take time away from our Losties, but the characters introduced this season are amazing!