View Full Version : Jin at Ji Yeon's birth
TabbyRasa 03-13-2008, 11:38 PM Was he really there? (I hope so)
Sun seemed to see him (wearing medical mask etc.)...
I'm so confused :redface: ...I need to re-watch...it's probably that they showed scenes out of sequence (as usual, even though Darlton "promises" that the FB's are always in sequence, well, they didn't say that about FF's...hehe)...
Ah.....LOST again. :malelove:
hiltop 03-13-2008, 11:40 PM She was hallucinating that Jin was there.
lucky4me8 03-13-2008, 11:44 PM Very confusing, Tabby. I messed up my dvr taping so I only got to see the second half of the epi, but she must have been hallucinating, right? :confused:
TabbyRasa 03-13-2008, 11:44 PM hiltop...I prefer to think that Jin was there spiritually (if not physically)... :)
Cardielost 03-13-2008, 11:45 PM The guy she saw looked a bit like Jin but was clearly someone else.
Cardie
TabbyRasa 03-13-2008, 11:47 PM Very confusing, Tabby. I messed up my dvr taping so I only got to see the second half of the epi, but she must have been hallucinating, right? :confused:
OH NO! :hug:
I'm too confused to answer...I got the feeling that it was a spiritual, sci-fi. or Time thing...but then, with the way they show scenes out of sequence, I don't know...
I haven't even had a chance to look up who wrote this one...kudos to them, whomever they are... ;)
I love this epi. :kiss:
MaxTennessee 03-13-2008, 11:47 PM yreah, at the end, she said to "dead jin":"The doctor said I was asking for you"
LostLaura 03-13-2008, 11:48 PM Tabs, she was hallucinating. Sorry, babe.
Adam and Eddy wrote this one.
Cardielost 03-13-2008, 11:48 PM They didn't show scenes out of sequence. Jin's off island scenes were a flashback in chronological order and Sun's scenes were a flashforward in chronological order.
Cardie
CharliesHoodie 03-13-2008, 11:50 PM I was confused by this too. I was like "Isn't that Jin?!"
And everyone told me "No!" so I shut up.
But it really did look like him. I'm thinking it was either Sun hallucinating or Jin doing an "I am dead, but I'm also here" appearance.
TabbyRasa 03-13-2008, 11:56 PM :hug: CharliesHoodie
I love Hope...
Gosh, some of the rest of you are somewhat cold in your replies...jeesh...
:hug: (hugs my bleeding heart) :hug:
Pyrolite 03-13-2008, 11:58 PM sigh....
some people amaze me
Jin was not there...that was made clear
lucky4me8 03-13-2008, 11:58 PM Rats. I can't believe I missed the first half and have to wait until tomorrow to download it and watch the whole thing. It seems like what Cardie said is right - Sun went forwards as Jin went backwards. Very sad, to now know he dies but not yet know how it happened.
CharliesHoodie 03-14-2008, 12:00 AM :hug: CharliesHoodie
I love Hope...
Gosh, some of the rest of you are somewhat cold in your replies...jeesh...
:hug: (hugs my bleeding heart) :hug:
I can't help it. I'm an optimist. :biggrin: I get yelled at for it all the time, though.
sigh....
some people amaze me
Jin was not there...that was made clear
I totally understand that Jin had a FB and Sun had a FF. But she obviously saw him/hallucinated which is why she calmed down a bit.
erin1679 03-14-2008, 12:02 AM I was confused by this too. I was like "Isn't that Jin?!"
And everyone told me "No!" so I shut up.
But it really did look like him. I'm thinking it was either Sun hallucinating or Jin doing an "I am dead, but I'm also here" appearance.
Same thing happened to me. Then I was embarrassed thinking I was one of those people confusing all asians, but it really did look like Jin. I even shouted "YES! he made it!", and my hubby gave me a funny look. I guess she was just hallucinating :(
TheBeastIsMe 03-14-2008, 12:03 AM I took it as the pain meds making her hallucinate. He walked by in the hall and was behind the mask right after. Seriously, though, if they start mixing FFs and FBs in the same eppy on a regular basis, I'm going to end up Hurley's roommate in Santa Rosa.
TabbyRasa 03-14-2008, 12:07 AM I can't help it. I'm an optimist. :biggrin: I get yelled at for it all the time, though.
Oh, me too. In RL, I'm known as the Eternal Optimist...hehe. Norman Vincent Peale is a mentor...
I totally understand that Jin had a FB and Sun had a FF. But she obviously saw him/hallucinated which is why she calmed down a bit.
We could also interpret that Jin was an Angel who helped deliver their baby...even if Ji Yeon is not his baby...
LostLaura 03-14-2008, 12:18 AM I think the confusion you are having is that they used DDK there to make it look JUST like Jin. The camera would cut away, show Sun's face, and then cut back to show a different actor. Of course you thought it was Jin. We all did. But I do think TPTB were intending it to be clear that Jin was definitely not there.
zander106 03-14-2008, 12:23 AM Jesus, another one of these threads.
The guy wearing the medical mask was her doctor. Who incidentally they showed several minutes before in the episode.
No, he does not look like Jin. :rolleyes:
CharliesHoodie 03-14-2008, 12:25 AM I think the confusion you are having is that they used DDK there to make it look JUST like Jin. The camera would cut away, show Sun's face, and then cut back to show a different actor. Of course you thought it was Jin. We all did. But I do think TPTB were intending it to be clear that Jin was definitely not there.
Ok, so you're saying that the man just looked like Jin and they used DDK just to ensure this? And that it wasn't a hallucination? I guess that could make sense.
Cardielost 03-14-2008, 12:27 AM They had a flash of DDK from Sun's perspective and then cut to a more neutral shot of a man in the hall who was not DDK, looking puzzled that Sun had addressed him as Jin.
Cardie
LostLaura 03-14-2008, 12:27 AM I'm saying that Sun had a hallucination. But to ensure that the viewer would see what Sun was seeing, they used DDK.
ETA: GMTA Cardie. :smile:
Jack Sawyer 03-14-2008, 12:33 AM No, it was not DDK guys/gals. It was another Asian actor entirely. Trust me. The dude didn't even know why Sun called out, she just thought it was Jin when it wasn't; cuz she wanted him to be there. Call it a hallucination if you like, but on screen there was no DDK.
TabbyRasa 03-14-2008, 12:49 AM Ok, so you're saying that the man just looked like Jin and they used DDK just to ensure this? And that it wasn't a hallucination? I guess that could make sense.
I guess I need to re-watch...maybe I was just too much of a LOST softie on the first watch...:confused:
I took it as the pain meds making her hallucinate. He walked by in the hall and was behind the mask right after. Seriously, though, if they start mixing FFs and FBs in the same eppy on a regular basis, I'm going to end up Hurley's roommate in Santa Rosa.
LOL...maybe we can be roomies. :biggrin:
Elbonio 03-14-2008, 12:48 PM ***MOD EDIT***
It was not Jin in the corridor, it was not Jin behind the surgical mask.
Jin is dead and was not at the birth at any time.
***MOD EDIT***
jane_eire 03-14-2008, 12:51 PM Jin was there, Tabby. It was a gift from the Island.
Margalit 03-14-2008, 12:58 PM There was a guy in the hallway that was a young, handsome man who gestalted like Jin--but was clearly NOT Jin--whom I actually thought might have been the guy who jumped in the cab with the panda, because I had not yet caught on that Jin's was a FB. I didn't see DDK at all. (But I still insist that Jin is NOT dead! He's just on the island! And Sun misses him just the same way, because he might as WELL be dead; he can't ever be with her or the baby again.)
sawyergroupie 03-14-2008, 01:04 PM Call me crazy but I almost think the guy in the hallway was creepy...like maybe he was sent there by someone because Sun was having the very first baby conceived on the island? I almost thought he was going to try at some point to take her or the baby.
luvlst 03-14-2008, 01:21 PM I agree. It was definitely not Jin but it was pretty amazing that she was headed for a C-Section until she thought she saw Jin and then all of a sudden the baby's head was crowning and she was able to have a normal delivery.
ChumpyBobo 03-14-2008, 01:33 PM Well at least the people on this thread can now see that it was not Jin, and for that matter not DDK portraying the man in the hall. That was just for Sun to see the man walking by and think it was Jin and that he arrived for the birthing in time...but of course he had no idea who or what and continued on his merry way.
jane_eire 03-14-2008, 01:53 PM Jin was there, thanks to the Island.
DesmondMorris 03-22-2008, 01:00 PM No, it was not DDK guys/gals. It was another Asian actor entirely. Trust me. The dude didn't even know why Sun called out, she just thought it was Jin when it wasn't; cuz she wanted him to be there. Call it a hallucination if you like, but on screen there was no DDK.
You're right it's this guy & he is not Jin. The guy at the hospital was also on the island.
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