Ben gave certain co ordinates for Mike to follow, i believe he knew Walts power and that the co-ords would brainwash Michael......somehow Michael gets this 'cleaner' job on the freighter while Walt uses this ability he has to do the work Ben shocked Locke with.....


thoughts, elaboration?
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p.s i found it very strange a black man appeared to 'confirm' regina's fall in a hoody peering over the ships edge

Thats pretty good. I was wondering if the blood splatter on the wall was possibly Walt's? Would they do that??

I was thinking the blood spatter on the wall was from someone shooting themselves in the head. Just like Regina jumped over the side of the boat, this person shot themself. I think people are committing suicide.

I was thinking the blood spatter on the wall was from someone shooting themselves in the head. Just like Regina jumped over the side of the boat, this person shot themself. I think people are committing suicide.

I agree. And the captain doesn't seem too concerned about it.

Yeah I agree that there are some suicides as clearly shown when Regina jumped into the ocean. I am thinking that ben gave those coordinates to michael to go back in time to get on the freighter

I agree. And the captain doesn't seem too concerned about it.

I don't think the captain can do much about it. What can he do? I don't think that everyone who's killed themself got into that little dingy for a closer look at the island. Other than move the freighter further away from the island, what can he do? But would that even help?

I also wonder just how many people are on this so-called freighter? It's really nothing more than a very large commercial fishing boat, not really a ship in my opinion. how many people can it sustain? It seems like it won't be long before no one is left.

Remember how Walt, when locked in room 23 (see the mini vids on the LOST website), caused the birds to fly into the windows and commit suicide? Perhaps, if he's kept locked up on the boat, he's somehow causing these people to commit suicide, too.

If the ship is large enough for a chopper to land on it, I'm thinking it's pretty big. Ships that size need a pretty big crew.

I'm not sure that Ben is interested in killing off the freighter people. When Locke said something last week about "our friends on the Freighter" and wanting to find out more about them, Ben replied with "not the Freighter people, it's who they work for (Widmore)" that he's after. So, I don't think he is instructing Walt to telepathically kill them off.

To me, the blood splatter was a self inflicted shot in the head as a result of the "cabin fever".

I used to think that Walt could be on the boat with Michael and actually being Ben's spy, but now I am not so sure.
I think that Ben still has Walt somewhere on or off the island, and he is using him to get Michael to do whatever Ben wants him to do on the Freighter. That's the reason why Michael is working for Ben.
Now, from S2 ending we didn't get the impression that Ben and Michael had any kind of deal. After all, father and son left together...
So what happened exactly?

They were probably picked up by another boat with Ben's people. They separated Walt from Michael (again!) and took the father back to civilization. After a while, Michael was contacted by Ben off the island and he proposed him a deal...

Infiltrate on Widmore's boat and find out what they are planning to do. If he does that, he will have Walt back.

I'm not sure that Ben is interested in killing off the freighter people. When Locke said something last week about "our friends on the Freighter" and wanting to find out more about them, Ben replied with "not the Freighter people, it's who they work for (Widmore)" that he's after. So, I don't think he is instructing Walt to telepathically kill them off.

To me, the blood splatter was a self inflicted shot in the head as a result of the "cabin fever".

Cabin fever or Island fever? Now that is the question. With Michael slipping that note in telling Sayid and Des not to trust the captain, I certainly don't accept that explanation.

I think there are essentially two camps on the freighter, the really bad ones like the captain and then the others that were more specific like Miles, Daniel, Charlotte, Frank. I am guessing that Regina was part of that group because she was working with Daniel on the experiments. So basically I think that those that are part of let's say the Good Freighters are having difficulties and suicide is the viable alternative.

I'm not sure that Ben is interested in killing off the freighter people. When Locke said something last week about "our friends on the Freighter" and wanting to find out more about them, Ben replied with "not the Freighter people, it's who they work for (Widmore)" that he's after. So, I don't think he is instructing Walt to telepathically kill them off.

To me, the blood splatter was a self inflicted shot in the head as a result of the "cabin fever".

Well, he doesn't seem to have any problem having people killed to reach his goal, and if stopping Widmore means killing the freighter crew, I don't think he'd hesitate. He already tried to kill Charlotte himself, 2 straight shots to the chest, not much hesitation with that one.

essentially i believe Ben sent Michael just off course, so that he would lose his mind so that he become another man, maybe through suggestion i don't know. Ben did this knowing that Walt would protect the Losties from these people (he could mind read them(don't go down the hatch) and is now forcing them to commit suicide (ala the birds room 23 etc etc)

I think Cabin Fever is far to simple and isn't 'lost' enough.

He's definately not above killing off Freighties, but I don't think he would go to the trouble of sending telepathic messages to Walt. I could be wrong. You're right about Charlotte.

I also thought the stain on the wall looked like/was meant to look like someone shooting themselves in the head, but also though it was VERY high up on the wall for that. I'm sure TPTB would never do anything so awful as to have that be Walt, as one poster in this thread suggested, but it sure would give new meaning to Tall Ghost Walt...

it will be just another suicide forced by Walt in my opinion.

Did Walt get RE-kidnapped back in the states, then Mike got an undercover job as a janitor on a freighter to find Walt and GET BEN?

I used to think that Walt could be on the boat with Michael and actually being Ben's spy, but now I am not so sure.
I think that Ben still has Walt somewhere on or off the island, and he is using him to get Michael to do whatever Ben wants him to do on the Freighter. That's the reason why Michael is working for Ben.
Now, from S2 ending we didn't get the impression that Ben and Michael had any kind of deal. After all, father and son left together...
So what happened exactly?

They were probably picked up by another boat with Ben's people. They separated Walt from Michael (again!) and took the father back to civilization. After a while, Michael was contacted by Ben off the island and he proposed him a deal...

Infiltrate on Widmore's boat and find out what they are planning to do. If he does that, he will have Walt back.

I first agreed with the idea brought up by another poster than the man on the boat was Walt because he had the ability to make "things happen" and people would not suspect him so easily. Now, I am tempted to think consider this too... we need to know what's going on with Walt, who may be more valuable to Ben than Michael.

If Ben or his people somehow intercepted Michael's boat and then kidnapped Walt again and made Michael further help Ben, at what point would Michael stop trusting Ben? I mean he may think that they will never give him Walt back and it could backfire on them.

It will be very interesting to see if Michael is pretending to be Kevin Johnson, or if some effect of leaving the island has made him think that he is Kevin Johnson.