I've read on a couple other boards that the "banging" that Desmond and Sayid heard no the boat was morse code. Can anyone confirm that? If you can, do you have any idea what was being said? I find it hard to believe that it was morse code, beacuse Sayid would definitely know morse. Did he possibly understand it and hide it from Desmond??

Yeah, Sayid would have known immediately. If he knew, he certainly was hiding it.

I have to admit that when I was first watching it, I thought it might be morse too. But when Sayid didn't appear to think so (at least that we could tell) I just brushed it off, because I of course, unquestionably trust Sayid since he's the man :)

I thought it was morse code too. I thought Sayid was listening intently but probably didn't reveal it to Desmond.

Desmond would likely know Morse code as well - he was also a military man.

And he should've been somewhat familiar with it because of traveling around the world in a sailboat...

Yeah, Sayid would have known immediately. If he knew, he certainly was hiding it.
Sayid had a certain look when he was walking down the steps on the ship....I think he was decoding whatever the tapping was spelling out.

Maybe it was Michael tapping out "W-A-L-T!"

Maybe it was Michael tapping out "W-A-L-T!"

Post of the day. I love it!

When Sayid said that someone was purposely banging, my first thought was that it was Morse Code.

Sayid had a certain look when he was walking down the steps on the ship....I think he was decoding whatever the tapping was spelling out.

I agree. It seemed as if Sayid was observing and deciphering. And you could tell by his facial expressions

Well, since we're on the morse code kick. Anybody who knows such stuff, please also check out the flashing lights in The Tempest as Juliette enters and leaves. I thought there was some interesting blinking going on there.

If you figure it...start a thread...Morse Code Translated. :) Thx

I thought it was morse code too. I thought Sayid was listening intently but probably didn't reveal it to Desmond.


I totally agree with you. I feel that he was listening very closely and either didn't want to tell Desmond about what was being said or the note distracted them. I think we will hear more about this later.

More importantly, is there anyone in the audience who knows morse, and can translate?

I thought about Morse code when I heard the banging, but I got the impression that it was a repetitive banging. Like bang-bang-------bang over and over again.

I have to admit that when I was first watching it, I thought it might be morse too. But when Sayid didn't appear to think so (at least that we could tell) I just brushed it off, because I of course, unquestionably trust Sayid since he's the man :)

I was thinking the exact same thing.




"Do I get one?"

My immediate thought was that it was Walt banging.

If Michael is on the boat, wouldn't that mean that Walt is, too?

There was Morse Code in Enter 77....when the computer asked Locke did he want to play he looked at the camera and it's LED blinked Y in Morse Code, and then Locke entered Y.

If I am hearing correctly it is 1 knock, slight pause then 2 consecutive knocks. It repeats the same pattern about 5 times.
is this the letter D?!

Here is a link to morse (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morse_code) code on wikipedia.

Can anyone confirm my findings or elaborate.

If I am hearing correctly it is 1 knock, slight pause then 2 consecutive knocks. It repeats the same pattern about 5 times.
is this the letter D?!

Here is a link to morse (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morse_code) code on wikipedia.

Can anyone confirm my findings or elaborate.

I can not, but I was just waiting for Sayid to do it.

Yes, I want the translation, too.

The flashing lights in The Other Woman, when Juliet and Jack kissed at the end, spelled out S-I-N in morse code.

That might have been posted on The Other Woman episode forum. If so, I missed it. It's been confirmed on several other Lost fan sites..

I thought it was probably morse code but then figured that wouldn't work because wouldn't everyone on the boat know morse code? Wouldn't the crew know what the person was telling their prisoners? Of course the crew does seem a bit loopy at the moment with all the suicides but one of them would probably be lucid enough to figure it out. It's a sign to them but I'm not sure if it's morse code.

Would most people on the boat know morse code? Is that something you need to know to work on a boat?

So what does 'DDDDDD' mean? lol

So what does 'DDDDDD' mean? lol

:24:

Perhaps there is level D or deck D on the boat?

So what does 'DDDDDD' mean? lol

:24: Maybe a stuttering version of "dddddon't trust the captain"?

So what does 'DDDDDD' mean? lol

Perhaps Ben's "man" on the boat is actually a very largely-proportioned woman...:biggrin:

Well, it depends on when you start listening, doesn't it? Cause I thought it was bong bong ..... bong. That would be two, then one.

I think that;s a "G" ???

large proportioned woman.....luv it.

Dharma, Death, Battlestar Galactica

:24: Maybe a stuttering version of "dddddon't trust the captain"?

Awesome!
Oh the possibilities are endless.

I thought it was probably morse code but then figured that wouldn't work because wouldn't everyone on the boat know morse code? Wouldn't the crew know what the person was telling their prisoners? Of course the crew does seem a bit loopy at the moment with all the suicides but one of them would probably be lucid enough to figure it out. It's a sign to them but I'm not sure if it's morse code.

I think that you've got some great points there about the crew knowing morse code and being kinda crazy, but maybe that makes it even more likely that someone is trying to communicate with the banging.

Yes, I want the translation, too.

The flashing lights in The Other Woman, when Juliet and Jack kissed at the end, spelled out S-I-N in morse code.

That might have been posted on The Other Woman episode forum. If so, I missed it. It's been confirmed on several other Lost fan sites..


Where were the flashing lights when they kissed? They were standing outside on the treeline... I don't recall seeing any lights. Just curious if you could point me in the right direction, I'd be very interested to see that :)

Yeah, I think they're trying to signal the delicious duo, but I don't think they're banging out a message.

After looking at the translator on Wikipedia, I found a Java-based site that can actually translate words/letter into Morse Code for you and let you listen. I'm not sure how I came up with this, but I think the banging might be spelling "It". It is 2 quick "bangs" followed by a slightly longer, drawn-out "bang". If you were to slow it down, it sounds almost the same as the banging on the ship. (At least to me). I have no idea what "It" could mean, or if it's even correct, but thought I would see what everyone else thought?

http://morsecode.scphillips.com/jtranslator.html

I have been gone from here for way too long, you guys crack me up!!!

"Dddddddon't get hooked on the fuselage!!!, you'll be come a large proportioned woman!"

love love love the translation... LOL!!!
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I have to add this as well... it wasn't morse code at all, it was that poor woman trying to get to the top of the ship with those blasted chains she was all wrapped up in... LOL!!!!

I think it is another example of the crew being crazy. If it was morse code, it would have been mentioned by Sayid at the time.

I don't think it was Morse Code, or else the two _military men_ (Sayid and Desmond) would know what it is saying.

I think it has more to do with the saboteur on the ship, down in the engine room going to town on the machines.

it wasn't morse code at all, it was that poor woman trying to get to the top of the ship with those blasted chains she was all wrapped up in... LOL!!!!

In that case, its a flashback, cause she jumped after they heard the noise.

But maybe she floated back to the top, what with the big ole DDDD's.

Not to mention that if it were Michael banging out the Morse Code, when did he learn it well enough to communicate?

Not to burst anyones bubble, but being in the military doesn't mean that they know Morse Code. I was in the Marine Corps, and was never instructed on Morse Code. As far as I know, it's not part of our Navy's training either. I was even in a communications unit and never studied Morse Code - maybe it's different in the Navy. However, with Sayid having an extensive background in comminications, I guess we could assume that he does know Morse Code; but it is certainly not a guarantee. I don't think we even know what Desmond did in the military yet do we?

I was able to find a java-based Morse Code translator online: http://morsecode.scphillips.com/jtranslator.html

and after looking at some translation charts for a bit, I decided that the word "It" looked on the chart how I thought the banging sounded. Turns out, if you turn both speed settings on this site down to 15, the word "It" sounds almost identical to the banging we hard. I have no idea what "It" could mean, or if it's even correct (I'm obviously not a Morse Code expert :biggrin: ) but thought I would get everyone else's feedback?

They heard the noise, then they were summonsed outside, and then she took the flying leap.... my point exactly, I don't think she could have been running with all that on... looked a bit dazed as well... honestly I don't have a clue, I am lost... or dazed or... confused... (why am I wrapping myself in chains)

Well, with either DDDDD's or GGGG's I am sure she will show up on the island in a day or two... LOL But I am sure Sawyer or someone will think it is Nessy (lochness) with those lady humps... LOL!!!! oh goodie, a new island monster!

In answer to "The Other Woman" morse code. The lights in the Tempest are flashing at odd intervals when Juliette is in the hallway and when she leaves. She and Jack kiss right outside the door and the camera is set back in the hallway and the ceiling lights are flashing.

And I've been told that the beeps at the front of each episode of JERICHO are actual morse code messages, so such things are going around.

Not to burst anyones bubble, but being in the military doesn't mean that they know Morse Code. I was in the Marine Corps, and was never instructed on Morse Code. As far as I know, it's not part of our Navy's training either. I was even in a communications unit and never studied Morse Code - maybe it's different in the Navy. However, with Sayid having an extensive background in comminications, I guess we could assume that he does know Morse Code; but it is certainly not a guarantee. I don't think we even know what Desmond did in the military yet do we?

I was able to find a java-based Morse Code translator online: http://morsecode.scphillips.com/jtranslator.html

and after looking at some translation charts for a bit, I decided that the word "It" looked on the chart how I thought the banging sounded. Turns out, if you turn both speed settings on this site down to 15, the word "It" sounds almost identical to the banging we hard. I have no idea what "It" could mean, or if it's even correct (I'm obviously not a Morse Code expert :biggrin: ) but thought I would get everyone else's feedback?


Oh crap, Pennywise is going to show up!

In answer to "The Other Woman" morse code. The lights in the Tempest are flashing at odd intervals when Juliette is in the hallway and when she leaves. She and Jack kiss right outside the door and the camera is set back in the hallway and the ceiling lights are flashing.

And I've been told that the beeps at the front of each episode of JERICHO are actual morse code messages, so such things are going around.



Ohhhhh you are right! I remember thinking it was odd that the camera showed us a view down the hallway and out the door at the end... for some reason, that view reminded me of Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix scene at the very beginning of the movie where the Dementors arrive and the lights all wink out and cover with frost... creepy

Well, it depends on when you start listening, doesn't it? Cause I thought it was bong bong ..... bong. That would be two, then one.

I think that;s a "G" ???

large proportioned woman.....luv it.

I think you just wanted to say "bong" in a post. :biggrin:

If it wad a D maybe Walt's banging out DDDDad :biggrin:

I got the impression from Desmond's remark about the banging that it had been going on for a while. It sounded to me like they were trying to mislead Sayid and Desmond in some way by making it sound like mechanical noises, or maybe they were trying to get to them. Didn't the doctor also make a comment about it when he was showing Sayid and Desmond to their room? It seems like Sayid said something about the boat not moving, and the doctor saying something to dissuade him.

But I got in three bongs!!! Better than Boink???

Maybe it was the crew trying to fix the engine in the engine room?

:24: Maybe a stuttering version of "dddddon't trust the captain"?

All I could think of when reading this was...

ARTHUR: Look, if he was dying, he wouldn't bother to carve 'aaggggh'.
He'd just say it!
MAYNARD: Well, that's what's carved in the rock!
GALAHAD: Perhaps he was dictating.

All I could think of when reading this was...

ARTHUR: Look, if he was dying, he wouldn't bother to carve 'aaggggh'.
He'd just say it!
MAYNARD: Well, that's what's carved in the rock!
GALAHAD: Perhaps he was dictating.

:biglaugh: Priceless!

When I saw the room with the blood, I thought it was from someone banging their head against the bulkhead.

I think it was code, because the doctor made a point of saying that Desmond and Sayid's room was in a "quieter" part of the ship. The freighties know about the banging, and they want Des and Sayid moved away from the noise. Why? Because Des and Sayid would learn something the crew doesn't want them to know if they were left in their old room for too long a time. The only noise I could think of that would be significant over time is a repetitively tapped code containing a message the crew doesn't want Des and Sayid to hear.

So what does 'DDDDDD' mean? lol
Maybe Carlos Mencia is on the freighter?

So what does 'DDDDDD' mean? lol

DESMOND - DUDE DON'T DILLY DALLY - DIAL DHARMA DOCTORS!

Maybe it was Michael tapping out "W-A-L-T!"
No, not enough As & Ls in that spelling. "WAAAAAALLLT"

Referring to the morse code...DDDDDDD. Perhaps Ben's "man" on the boat is actually a very largely-proportioned woman...:biggrin:
lmao :D

I don't think Sayid would keep anything from Desmond. They are like two Losties on a boat full of freaks. Wait they are two Losties on a boat full of freaks.

There's another code I have heard of, used in prisons, and mentioned in Koestler's "Darkness at Noon" which involves tapping...the alphabet is laid out in a square, and the letters are indicated by taps for the row, then taps for the column...I have no idea what it's called but I thought of this code more than I thought of Morse, primaily because of the long pauses between taps...

Halcyon, I was in the military, too, Regular Army, Signal Corps, trained as a Sattelite Communications Specialist, sending and receiving messages on an early computer back in the early 80's. LED screens. And never was trained in Morse Code. That was specialized training and we never envied the guys who had to spend entire days listening to "dot dot dit, dot dot dit,...." over and over and over. So, no, military experience does not equal knowledge of Morse Code. And apparently neither does work on a ship.

Apparently there is no obvious hidden message hidden in Morse Code.

The banging, and Sayid telling Desmond it's deliberate, not mechanical, seems like the kind of thing that would not be included in the episode unless it is in some way significant and we will be learning more about it later. This makes me agree that is is someone trying to communicate with morse code. Since it's possible that some of the crew know morse, maybe someone is trying to communicate with them. Or maybe one of the crew (having been incarcerated by the captain?) is trying to communicate with his shipmates.:smash:
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Or maybe it's not morse, but oars clanking against oar locks, which would account for the ship moving. And be an excuse for a Locke reference.:boat:

I agree. It seemed as if Sayid was observing and deciphering. And you could tell by his facial expressions

I also agree. Don't know if it was Morse Code, specifically, but after watching the episode again, I think Sayid's facial expression definitely conveys a certain understanding. He has a sort of knowing look, like a communications expert listening to a coded message.

I was able to find a java-based Morse Code translator online: http://morsecode.scphillips.com/jtranslator.html

and after looking at some translation charts for a bit, I decided that the word "It" looked on the chart how I thought the banging sounded. Turns out, if you turn both speed settings on this site down to 15, the word "It" sounds almost identical to the banging we hard. I have no idea what "It" could mean, or if it's even correct (I'm obviously not a Morse Code expert :biggrin: ) but thought I would get everyone else's feedback?

Maybe it's not the word "It" ...but the acronym IT.
By golly Ben's mole on the boat is some computer geek!


err...or maybe not.

I think it was Regina trying to tap out her book in morse code. But she kept getting confused and starting again on the first letter.

I think it sounded like Dr. Bombay - Taximan

All I could think of when reading this was...

ARTHUR: Look, if he was dying, he wouldn't bother to carve 'aaggggh'.
He'd just say it!
MAYNARD: Well, that's what's carved in the rock!
GALAHAD: Perhaps he was dictating. PERFECT. lol I just watched that last night...

Let's say it *is* someone banging out morse code...wouldn't it be fairly easy to tie them up or otherwise restrain them to keep them from doing so, rather than move Sayid and Des to another part of the ship?

Good thread, I hadn't even noticed it while watching the epi, guess I need to re-watch it!

How would Walt or Michael learn Morse Code?

How would Walt or Michael learn Morse Code?


Are you forgetting that Walt has special abilities!! :grin:

I definately thought that it was someone trying to convey a message. But now someone mentioned it (sorry I don't remember who) it definately could've been Regina banging the chains up the steps. I hope it's not though!

Maybe the bangs had another reason.... to smash something? Like the blackbox?

I thought the banging was from someone that was going goofy ,like minkowski was. I thought they were locked up and were just making noise because they wanted out of confinement.

I thought the banging was from someone that was going goofy ,like minkowski was. I thought they were locked up and were just making noise because they wanted out of confinement.

That was my take on it too, at least until we're shown otherwise ...

I'm sure Sayid recognized it right away. He just hasn't said anything yet.

It isn't morse code. Its just someone banging on the pipes, or the hull, or whatever. Not morse code.

Why is the title of this thread "Morse Code Translated" when we don't even know if there was Morse Code and it definitely hasn't been translated?

I clicked expecting to find a definitive translation. Very misleading.

That's the problem it has been translated. D-D-D-D-D...

The translation just isn't the least bit useful. And it really doesn't point to it actually being morse code. But it is strange that it is so rhythmic. It it were just random pounding I wouldn't expect it to have the cadence that it has.

Obviously the person sending the code has a stutter

That's the problem it has been translated. D-D-D-D-D...

The translation just isn't the least bit useful. And it really doesn't point to it actually being morse code. But it is strange that it is so rhythmic. It it were just random pounding I wouldn't expect it to have the cadence that it has.

I agree. If it was a message we would have had some foreshadowing on it or at least a rumor about what it might mean. I don't even think it's some kind of easter egg or has a hidden clue in it.

P. S. We really like your avatar. I haven't thought of Calvin and/or Hobbs in a long time.

I think the scene in TOW was just meant to be artistic and romantic.....

No morse code, i guess. Just repetetive noise to make our duo a bit dizzy in the head. Subliminal manipulating techniques...

No morse code, i guess. Just repetetive noise to make our duo a bit dizzy in the head. Subliminal manipulating techniques...

Sayid emphasises that he thinks it is a human doing it repetitvely, not a machine, despite its regularity.

He's right, there are clearly different variations of the same two core sounds (indicating a smaller pipe being struck, then a larger one struck twice). The tempo changes ever so slightly each time as well.

Musically, its in 7/4 time like this with an emphasis on the 1st, 4th and 5th beats. Notated it would read as a dotted half note (3 beats) a quarter note (1 beat) and another dotted half note (3 beats).

So, 313.

We've got to bare in mind that a few others on the ship can probably hear the same rhythm so they must either know or be driven enough up the wall to want it to stop as well. I'm guessing the former. Now we know that shortly after that lady jumps in so I'm guessing its her just bashing this rhythm out endlessly on the pipes in some uber-depressed like state. Either that or the captains's sunk his drumkit.

We've got to bare in mind that a few others on the ship can probably hear the same rhythm so they must either know or be driven enough up the wall to want it to stop as well. I'm guessing the former. Now we know that shortly after that lady jumps in so I'm guessing its her just bashing this rhythm out endlessly on the pipes in some uber-depressed like state. Either that or the captains's sunk his drumkit.

This got me thinking that as "Stir crazy" as the crew is, according to the captain, banging like this makes sense. It is human caused, it has definite rhythm, and has no apparent message. It could certainly be somebody who is going crazy.

This got me thinking that as "Stir crazy" as the crew is, according to the captain, banging like this makes sense. It is human caused, it has definite rhythm, and has no apparent message. It could certainly be somebody who is going crazy.

The amusing thing is that a band who made a lot of use of odd time signatures like 7/4 time were The Grateful Dead. I don't know if there's some hidden joke here!. A bit far fetched maybe....

I agree that it was morris code and that Sayid understood the message, but has chosen not to reveal it,..yet.

Isn't there somebody out there that knows morris code? Help!!!

blinking fluorescent ceiling lights = Twin Peaks
unusual time signatures = Serbian music (too bad not Croatian, else Tesla reference)
irresolvable "Morse code" = On The Beach

So what does 'DDDDDD' mean? lol
Any chance it was "DS DS DS"? 'Cause then it'd match Charlie's ring.

Robert

i think it was... sayid pretend you don't know what we are saying but and disregard the note about the captain.

or something like that

I thought the banging was from someone that was going goofy ,like minkowski was. I thought they were locked up and were just making noise because they wanted out of confinement.

I thought so too. Like they have people locked up all over with "the sickness"

BTW in the military, Morse Code Training is or was special, bet they don't do it anymore and the people who learned it were called "dittyboppers"

Beeeep beep-beep Beeeep = S.O.S

w/nod to sleepy...

Watching, i thought morse and expected sayid to translate immediately when he didn't and upon the mention of the boat saboteur i figured that was the cause.

i'm sure i'll be wrong. again.

I have a pretty good ear for: dit dit dit dah dah dah dit dit dit - and I didn't hear it. So no clear S.O.S. for me.

Just saw a film though - Below - that featured... or may have, Morse: a group of shipwreck survivors picked up by a submarine get the willies - along with the crew - in face of superstition, suspicion, possible sabotage, karmic comeuppance and ghostly apparitions.

Their damn - and they think it may be - boat seems hell bent on doing its own thing and killing them in the process. Or it could be the sub sustained damage in a depth charge attack and the spooky goings on are nothing more than rising CO2 levels messing with some understandably troubled minds.

Did I mention there was murder and conspiracy to conceal it too?

A seaman played by Dexter Fletcher (a wonderfully LOST name; fletchers make arrows) translates creaking and clanking as Morse - but whether or not he was right is a matter of interpretation. Once you listen for something, expecting to find meaning...

I wish I could hear both examples again.

On the boat its just noise.
In the Tempest, the ceiling lights, its morse.

For sure not SOS.

The knocking on the ship is most likely the guys working below on the engine repair. It's definitely not morse code, unless you can make some meaning from repeating D's or T-I's, which I can't. If the Tempest lights are really blinking out S-I-N, that doesn't make any sense either.

Gimme an E! :cheer:(sine - but SIN will do it too): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sine_wave