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Capmaster
03-18-2008, 04:40 PM
They have the same name, but is it really the same baby? Sure, if Claire had died on the island, I could see Kate taking the baby at Claire's request.

But do we know yet if it's the same baby? What about the following scenario:

Kate is really pregnant with Sawyer's baby (remember the preg. test and her denial earlier?). Claire AND Aaron are killed on the island. kate names her baby after Claire's Aaron, to honor him. The baby is blonde. Sawyer is blonde. And Juliet had said to Sun how men's sperm counts on the island skyrocket, increasing the odds that Kate would conceive. And it's unlikely Sawyer was "wearing a raincoat" when they were in the cages ;)

SCgirl
03-18-2008, 05:14 PM
I really do not think it is Kate's Child. That would put the timeline close to the end of 2008 when her trial ended and I do not think it has been that long since they left the island.

Lost Ed
03-18-2008, 05:19 PM
Absolutely nothing in the show thus far gives any reason to assume another Aaron.

And certainly if another baby was involved...why would the name be Aaron?

Well, if Aaron died, and another baby was born, then one might name the baby Aaron in commemoration of dead Aaron. But why would the writer's need to do that if they already had an Aaron? What purpose at all could it serve.

Hugo_Reyes
03-18-2008, 05:21 PM
This is a 'Disney' show. I'm sure they have a 'No Killing Kids' rule somewhere.

cybalo
03-18-2008, 07:40 PM
....Oookay, This is something I have mulled over and it really gets no recognition...until now...LOL...:biggrin:...this has been one of my thoughts about the kid...

...in the EP Jin Yeon, when Sun was being rushed to the delivery room one nurse says to the other nurse,"... one of The Oceanic Six...". This (kinda) gives us a time line for the rescue of The O6.

...in the EP Eggtown Kate's mom tells her,"...it all changed when I thought you were dead, my doctors have given me 6 months to live for the past 4 years..." and also at the end of the EP Eggtown Jack & Kate are talking in the parking garage and during there conversation Kate says to Jack, "...I know why YOU dont want to see THE BABY Jack..."

1. IF (which he's not) Aaron is Claire's baby and somehow Kate ended up with him for whatever reasons what UNCLE wouldn't want to visit his NEPHEW? Especially if his mother was killed tragically?

2. The timeline that we get from Jin Yeon's birth since she is in Korea shows that The Oceanic Six have been "found" for a while now.

3. Kate's mom said (indirectly) that she has been estranged from Kate for 4 years. That would mean in LOST time it would put it right around 2008. Plenty of time to have a healthy pregnancy and raise a baby.

4. Jack does not want to see the baby beause it is Sawyer's child. Not only that but did you recognize the Nanny at Kate's house. She's a single mother. Sawyer gets wacked somehow, possible by Jack? Maybe those reasons are why Jack doesn't even want to be around or breath that babues name.

5. What happens to Claire and the REAL baby Aaron? Dunno...but she does want to leave The Island doesn't she?

goddessblue
03-18-2008, 08:57 PM
....Oookay, This is something I have mulled over and it really gets no recognition...until now...LOL...:biggrin:...this has been one of my thoughts about the kid...

...in the EP Jin Yeon, when Sun was being rushed to the delivery room one nurse says to the other nurse,"... one of The Oceanic Six...". This (kinda) gives us a time line for the rescue of The O6.

...in the EP Eggtown Kate's mom tells her,"...it all changed when I thought you were dead, my doctors have given me 6 months to live for the past 4 years..." and also at the end of the EP Eggtown Jack & Kate are talking in the parking garage and during there conversation Kate says to Jack, "...I know why YOU dont want to see THE BABY Jack..."

1. IF (which he's not) Aaron is Claire's baby and somehow Kate ended up with him for whatever reasons what UNCLE wouldn't want to visit his NEPHEW? Especially if his mother was killed tragically?

2. The timeline that we get from Jin Yeon's birth since she is in Korea shows that The Oceanic Six have been "found" for a while now.

3. Kate's mom said (indirectly) that she has been estranged from Kate for 4 years. That would mean in LOST time it would put it right around 2008. Plenty of time to have a healthy pregnancy and raise a baby.

4. Jack does not want to see the baby beause it is Sawyer's child. Not only that but did you recognize the Nanny at Kate's house. She's a single mother. Sawyer gets wacked somehow, possible by Jack? Maybe those reasons are why Jack doesn't even want to be around or breath that babues name.

5. What happens to Claire and the REAL baby Aaron? Dunno...but she does want to leave The Island doesn't she?

Watching Eggtown, when we first saw Aaron, I thought for sure it was Sawyer's baby with that blonde hair. I've been wondering about this, as well.

As far as timelines for Eggtown and Jin Yeon, Jin Yeon would have to be mid 2005, since they wrecked in 2004, right? Different timeline for Eggtown for sure, whether it's Claire's Aaron or Kate's Aaron. Look at the size of the child.

And IF it IS Kate's baby, the use of the name Aaron would be NO surprise to me at all. TPTB have used the same name numerous times.

ETA:

Forgot, lol. About Jack's recation.....That's part of what made me doubt, too. If it were Sawyer and Kate's baby, his reaction makes total sense. BUT Jack does not know that Claire's Aaron is his nephew (yet). If it were Claire's Aaron, the only reason I could think for him not to want to see the baby is perhaps bad memories of the island??? But he's the one who wants to get back there.....argh, I dunno! lol

1dimpleonly
03-18-2008, 09:08 PM
As far as Jack not wanting to see his nephew,..perhaps Jack does not know that Aaron is his nephew.

I am not sure that it's Claire's baby, but I am leaning in that direction.

What surprised me was when Kate was with the attorneys, deciding to reduce her sentence to nothing,...she opted for 'staying' in California. Really a strange thing for Kate to do, since we all know how much she likes to run.

Maybe she wants to stay put for Aaron, plus she has no real reason to run any longer, since she was vindicated by the courts. It was just an interesting aside :).

Perhaps it is just another character finding themselves in the one thing they rejected in their past,...I don't know.

ManOfScience6
03-18-2008, 09:27 PM
I think without a doubt it is Claire's Aaron that Kate is raising.

Kate says "the baby" and at the end of 4.4 when Kate is hugging Aaron and she says his name the music changing and her eyes are wide open. That certainly means that at that moment TPTB wanted us to know that something weird was going on, hence it not being her child.

Kate already said she wasn't pregnant, so I don't know why it would be Sawyer's child, she even drank wine in 4.4.

cybalo
03-18-2008, 10:17 PM
I think without a doubt it is Claire's Aaron that Kate is raising.

Kate says "the baby" and at the end of 4.4 when Kate is hugging Aaron and she says his name the music changing and her eyes are wide open. That certainly means that at that moment TPTB wanted us to know that something weird was going on, hence it not being her child.

Kate already said she wasn't pregnant, so I don't know why it would be Sawyer's child, she even drank wine in 4.4.

...Now that I think about it I refer to MY SON as "The Baby" when he is at my parents house when I call or go get him...I also directly refer to him as "The Baby" when we play as well...

...Kate says that she is not pregnant to Sawyer because (if you haven't been watching since the very first episode, Sawyer is a persistant jerk, sorry to sound arrogant) he has made it clear to Kate in the past about how he does not want a child. Kate wants a child so to rectify the situation Kate obviously tells him she's not pregnant to shut Sawyer up...

...Kate's next move: to get off The Island so she can have a healthy pregnancy and raise her Aaron...

...Even Kate's Mom backs up the timeline...watch the scene when Kate & her Mother talk in the Judge's chamber and you tell me what time frame yo get out of it...

Kate's Mom states about WHEN & HOW she found out about her cancer which (according to Kate's Mom) was "...for four (4) years my Doctor has given me 6 moths to live..." right before Kate's mom says that Kate says "...yeah and I remember what happened when I tried to visit you (when you found out)..." or something of that nature..it completly supports this idea...

...About Kate sipping wine...One or two glasses of wine is not something taboo for a pregnant woman to consume. In fact our doctor even said it was okay for my son's mother to have a couple of beers or a couple of glasses of wine (a week) while pregnant and yes I was there to witness it coming out of her mouth...I was shocked but she knows what she was talking about. The Doctor was one of the best OBGYNs in Austin...

quizzical
03-20-2008, 04:41 PM
TPTB are damned either way at this point. If the baby is Kate's, they ignore this season's build up that Aaron is really Claire's. If the baby is Kate's, they ignore last season's build up that suggested Kate would become pregnant. Personally, I have to come down on the side that Aaron is really Kate and Sawyer's kid, because I think there is more evidence for it.

TPTB were hinting like crazy last season that Kate would be pregnant with Sawyer's baby - she and Sawyer were kept in cages like a breeding animal experiment, Ben put Kate in that nice dress, Juliet needed a test case mother to study, and we learned in Sawyer's flashback that he is capable of fathering children. The pieces were all there.

Given that all we really have is Kate's emphatic denial that she isn't pregnant, the conversation with Sawyer in Eggtown can be read two ways.

The first reading is that Kate says she isn't pregnant, and she's telling the truth. Sawyer was a jerk, and so Kate did not try to talk him into leaving Otherville with her. This supports the theory that Aaron is Claire's.

The second reading of the Eggtown conversation is that Kate says she isn't pregnant, and Kate is lying. Her conversation with Sawyer was Kate testing the water to see how he would react to fatherhood. Sawyer's reaction showed Kate that he didn't want to be a father, and so she left Otherville without trying to persuade him to come back to civilization with her where she could have the baby safely. Personally, I think this is more likely, given all the "Kate will be pregnant" hints dropped last season.

Kate and Jack's conversation after Kate's trial can also be read two ways. The first reading is that Jack is uncomfortable because Aaron is Claire's son, and Jack feels guilty about whatever happened to Claire. The second reading is that Aaron is Sawyer's son, and Jack feels uncomfortable with the perpetual reminder of Sawyer. We don't have enough information at this point to argue either way

MtnGrlbytheBay
03-20-2008, 04:59 PM
no way. Kate's not pregnant. You all are avoiding a strong possibility... maybe KATE could NOT get pregnant in the first place. Plenty of women have fertility problems. Kate might have even had a tubal ligation or something.

Lost Ed
03-20-2008, 05:11 PM
I could flow with Kate as preggers. I cannot flow with Kate naming the child Aaron. The only reason shw would do that is if something happened to Claire's Aaron, but since he pretty much had an entire episode dedicated to him, that would be most strange.

So I'm left with kate not pregnant, and Aaron is Claire's Aaron.

quizzical
03-20-2008, 05:20 PM
no way. Kate's not pregnant. You all are avoiding a strong possibility... maybe KATE could NOT get pregnant in the first place. Plenty of women have fertility problems. Kate might have even had a tubal ligation or something.

Then why worry about it in the first place? Kate reminded Sawyer on the way to the radio tower she could be pregnant - why bring it up if it wasn't possible?

Skippy2Tacos
03-20-2008, 05:28 PM
This is a 'Disney' show. I'm sure they have a 'No Killing Kids' rule somewhere.

I think you are right to an extent. I think that Kate gets prego and names her and Sawyers kid after Aaron, who is back on the island somehow with the other survivors secretly for some unknown reason they had to lie about. There is is just too much going on with it, Eggtown, the mega dose sperm men are suposed to have on the island, and maybe if Kate got prego on the island then she would "have" to leave or die.

Hugo_Reyes
03-20-2008, 06:18 PM
Kinda interesting thing I just read on Lostpedia...
Apparently "The end credits credit William Blanchette (http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/William_Blanchette)not as Aaron (http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Aaron) but as "Two Year Old Boy." :confused:

cybalo
03-20-2008, 07:31 PM
no way. Kate's not pregnant. You all are avoiding a strong possibility... maybe KATE could NOT get pregnant in the first place. Plenty of women have fertility problems. Kate might have even had a tubal ligation or something.


...Sounds like we generated alittle BUZZ...LMAO.:biggrin:

...Sorry about YOUR fertility problems MtnGrl, BUT even IF Kate had a barron uterus the WHOLE mystic about The Island is that IT FIXES peoples problems...Locke...and Jin because he was impotent in Korea...so it would have reversed Kate's situation...

...NOT only that but IF Kate was unable to carry a child why would she even worry about a pregnancy test....I would think that she would realize she was pregnant after the fact like two months after conception....

NICE!:biggrin:

quizzical
03-20-2008, 09:32 PM
BUT even IF Kate had a barron uterus the WHOLE mystic about The Island is that IT FIXES peoples problems...Locke...and Jin because he was impotent in Korea...so it would have reversed Kate's situation...

The island hasn't done a real good job of fixing the women who conceived on the island. In fact, that seems to be the one thing it doesn't fix. The point is very much up for debate.

...Sorry about YOUR fertility problems MtnGrlWow. That's pretty rude. This is a message board for debating theories about a television show. No need to get personal.

cybalo
03-20-2008, 11:22 PM
The island hasn't done a real good job of fixing the women who conceived on the island. In fact, that seems to be the one thing it doesn't fix. The point is very much up for debate.

Wow. That's pretty rude. This is a message board for debating theories about a television show. No need to get personal.

...:kiss:SORRY:kiss: if I offended anybody with that comment...I was just being :redface: silly..

...you are right about the whole Island not curing the women of the conception ordeal...and you are also right about the whole point being up for debate...

...ALOT has been revealed tonight on LOST so let me mull over the EP once more so I can try to make sense of things...

...SORRY MtnGrl, PLEASE dont take that personal I would have said that to my Grandmother if we were debating LOST...:rolleyes:

lulinha_k
03-22-2008, 11:58 AM
Of course its Claire´s Aaron. TPTB already said that in 2 podcasts (including the last one) and Evie said that aswell.