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evil-pineapples
05-05-2008, 09:26 PM
Am I the only one sensing this, or are the writers possibly setting up a Sawyer/Claire relationship with the events of these last two episodes? And could this be the spectacular kiss in the finale we've all heard so much about that will, according to Darlton, "seriously complicate the Jack-Kate-Sawyer triangle?" Just a thought. The two seem to be growing closer as of late...

Of course, I'm not saying this relationship will be a present-time thing. My thoughts are that the finale will be, at least partially, a Sawyer and/or Claire flash-forward and that we'll see what happens between them within that context. I think it's a little too soon after Charlie's death and Kate's departure for Sawyer and Claire to consider this type of relationship in real-time (plus, Claire's just recently gone missing), but in the future... who knows what may happen?

Again, this is just a thought, so Skaters please don't flame me, but I'd like to hear your constructive feedback on this.

All the best,
Evil-pineapples

P.S. I wonder what the Sawyer/Claire nickname would be. Slaire? Clawyer? Ah, the possibilities...

ked
05-05-2008, 09:39 PM
ConMama. :)

quizzical
05-05-2008, 09:49 PM
It could be a future plot. Personally, I'd rather see a man and a woman just be friends on the island without it turning into a big romantic deal.

art_lipchalk
05-05-2008, 10:07 PM
I think you're absolutely right that Sawyer/Claire is being developed, and could help explain the Hurley line of how Jack is "not supposed to raise him". If Claire/Sawyer are together on the island, maybe he's the one who's supposed to raise Aaron?

Either way, I think you can see through Sawyer's actions that he's bringing himself closer to Claire.

Angela12
05-05-2008, 10:15 PM
I would love for them to show that it's possible for a man to be caring and concerned about a woman without it meaning that he wants to "get with" her. Can't they just be friends? I see Sawyer's attention towards Clarie lately as being a lot more about him stepping in as her "protector" now that Charlie is dead that it is about them potentially developing a romance.

ManOfScience6
05-05-2008, 10:24 PM
I see it, totally see it. They have been getting much closer through each episode, and it would be a nice turn of events if Sawyer was suppose to raise the child with Claire.

The show is about redemption right? Well maybe Sawyer is redeeming himself from being a non-existent father in Clementine's life to being the eventual father figure for Aaron if that is indeed the case.

Exile236
05-05-2008, 10:35 PM
A developing brother/sister friend(ship): Yes!

A developing romantic relation(ship): possibly, but I hope they don't take it there.

And no you're not the only one that sees it, there is a Scare ship devoted to their burgeoning friendship and I've talked about the very same FF to 2007 romance in a couple different threads on the spoiler board and on the LeftBehinds ship.

evil-pineapples
05-05-2008, 10:46 PM
I would love for them to show that it's possible for a man to be caring and concerned about a woman without it meaning that he wants to "get with" her. Can't they just be friends? I see Sawyer's attention towards Clarie lately as being a lot more about him stepping in as her "protector" now that Charlie is dead that it is about them potentially developing a romance.
Well, he doesn't want to "get with" her -- right now. That would develop over years with being together on the island. I don't think Sawyer or Claire have anything resembling romantic feelings for each other on the present-day island.

texgeekboy
05-05-2008, 10:57 PM
I agree with the poster that said a brother/sister relationship. While James is paying attention to Claire, I think that he is being a better citizen all around. Claire just needs some looking after.

Also, I don't think he is ready to give up on Kate yet.

eko42
05-06-2008, 12:11 PM
Oh god, they better not add to the already annoying love triangle/square/rhombus/dodecahedron... Whatever it is...

I think that Miles hit it right on the head. Sawyer is acting like a big brother. The irony of this is that Jack is actually her big brother. It seems to me that with Charlie gone, Sawyer simply saw that Claire and Aaron needed someone to look after them.

I really don't want to see Juliette/Jack/Kate/Sawyer/Claire/Ghost of Charlie soap opera love posts in the future.

Laurieg
05-06-2008, 12:19 PM
I have a feeling that Sawyer nor us will see Claire for the rest of the season. Which would be why Kate has Aaron.

Lost Ed
05-06-2008, 04:12 PM
Jack and kate off the island. Sawyer obviously on the island. Claire (?) presently in the island? above the island? a part of the island? cabin bait? Who knows. But assuming she surfaces for a band aid change, I can see some sort of relationship thingy twixt the two of them happening. preferring the bro/sis variety at present.

ked
05-06-2008, 04:14 PM
I always liked the idea of them and I loved when he called her mamacita in season one, but I am kinda meh on the scenes they've had together so far this season... except the one where he said "Are you good with that?" and she said "Yeah I'm good with that." I guess I want them to actually talk more rather than just having him carry her.

Jack Sawyer
05-06-2008, 04:16 PM
I would love for them to show that it's possible for a man to be caring and concerned about a woman without it meaning that he wants to "get with" her. Can't they just be friends?

I guess you haven't seen When Harry Met Sally.

flyer61055
05-06-2008, 04:21 PM
Well it would give you the Star Wars scenario since everyone loves to compare Sawyer to Hans Solo. You'd have Hans hooking up with Luke's sister, the sister he isn't aware he has.

ked
05-06-2008, 04:28 PM
Whoa... never thought about that

my t dux
05-06-2008, 05:04 PM
It would be kind of hard for them to be in a relationship if Claire was killed when the house came down on her and she is just a walking ghost right now.

saska
05-06-2008, 05:35 PM
Miles to Sawyer: "What are you, her big brother?" That's how he's acting. Like a protective big brother.

Felaries65
05-06-2008, 06:23 PM
I get the feeling that Sawyer has taken over the role that Jack should have taken with Claire - namely that of older brother.

Theologian
05-06-2008, 06:29 PM
Well it would give you the Star Wars scenario since everyone loves to compare Sawyer to Hans Solo. You'd have Hans hooking up with Luke's sister, the sister he isn't aware he has.

Didn't the producers say they are big Star Wars fans? :)

QueenLizzie13
05-06-2008, 06:45 PM
yes they are. at least I think so.
but a lot of movie/tv producers have references to SW. its often a tribute to sw which changed things in Hollywood forever.
could mean a whole lot or it could mean nothing.
some people have SW "easter eggs" just for the fun of it.

Pythagoras99
05-06-2008, 08:32 PM
I would love for them to show that it's possible for a man to be caring and concerned about a woman without it meaning that he wants to "get with" her. Can't they just be friends? I see Sawyer's attention towards Clarie lately as being a lot more about him stepping in as her "protector" now that Charlie is dead that it is about them potentially developing a romance.

Yeah, I think (and hope) that Miles' "big brother" remark is sort of the defining comment meant to frame their relationship. It would be a really bad move if they tried to make this another romance.

Lost Lenny
05-06-2008, 10:59 PM
You are not the only one seeing this...

Sawyer's character has changed more than any other since day 1...and I for one love it. He is a total bad-***, but he's being a good citizen at the same time. The changes seemed to start after he killed Cooper...everything changed almost like he was re-born.

The only thing that scares me is that once a character seems to lose their most awful flaws, they end up dead. Almost like once the island changes them, it becomes their time to go. Anna Lucia starts to become more caring and helpful...dead...Paulo stops being selfish and starts to care about something other than the diamonds...dead...Libby seems to get her act together and falls for Hurley...dead.

I'm just sayin', TPTB love to shock us and killing off Sawyer would be one hell of a shock. I really hope that I'm wrong because I really like the direction that Sawyer's character is going, and look forward to him kicking some freightie (Keamie especially) azz! (and continuing to protect Claire)

evil-pineapples
05-07-2008, 05:14 PM
It would be kind of hard for them to be in a relationship if Claire was killed when the house came down on her and she is just a walking ghost right now.
That's a stupid theory, though.

Sawyers Mojito
05-07-2008, 07:45 PM
I guess you haven't seen When Harry Met Sally.
can I just Say I love you?? :biggrin:

Thats an awesome movie.

Men & Women can never be 'Just Friends'

Why?

cos the guy always wants to do her.

xD gotta love the blunt truth to that

TotalLostJunkie
05-07-2008, 07:53 PM
I hope that a romantic relationship does not form between Saywer and Claire. I believe that Saywer has taken a look around at the possible candidates to look after Claire and Aaron and hasn't been able to find one so he has decided to take it upon himself. I mean with the chaos, craziness and violence taking place right now does he really have an option. He can't very well let Locke, Ben or Hurley protect...they're all NUTS. As always there is a lot of ambiguity, so I agree with the poster that it could appear that the path to romance isn't impossible.

PhillyandBCEagles
05-07-2008, 07:56 PM
And could this be the spectacular kiss in the finale we've all heard so much about that will, according to Darlton, "seriously complicate the Jack-Kate-Sawyer triangle?"

Personally I'm hoping that that will be a Claire/Kate/Juliet 3-way make out session

ked
05-07-2008, 08:17 PM
Hurley would try his hardest to protect Claire and Aaron. I'm sure. :)

Outrajess
05-07-2008, 11:01 PM
They've been hinting it since Season 1.

Remember when Sawyer said WAY BACK "She likes me!" and when Aaron stopped crying whenever he was around Sawyer.

sawyer101
05-07-2008, 11:21 PM
It could be a future plot. Personally, I'd rather see a man and a woman just be friends on the island without it turning into a big romantic deal.

I agree. i think the women on this show get kinda exploited. Kate comes to mind.
countless scene's of her in revealing clothes(bra,panties galore in this episode)
tho i understand why:biggrin:

AmoebaJo
05-08-2008, 12:50 AM
I'm gonna go ahead and be perfectly honest here - out of all of the characters on this show, I would care the absolute LEAST if Claire was to get sucked up by the smoke monster, thrown off a cliff, shot through some sort of manic depressive wormhole and had to experience the most terrible death in the entire show in some kind of sick everlasting timeloop over and over again. If it means I don't have to hear her scream "THE DINGO STOLE MY BABY" anymore I would consider it a personal favor from the writers.

The only other person I can think of that might deserve a similar fate would have been Ana Lucia who has played the SAME ROLE in everything she has ever been in.

I swear if Sawyer winds up with Claire somehow that is going to be the worst thing ever. The last thing we need on this show is another exploitation of the female characters / crappy love triangle to distract us from episodes that might offer us actual answers. If I want love drama I'll watch Gray's Anatomy... ::rant over::

John Burger
05-08-2008, 01:11 AM
Miles to Sawyer: "What are you, her big brother?" That's how he's acting. Like a protective big brother.

This was a Jack episode. That line was delivered for the sole purpose of pointing out that Claire's Big Brother(Jack) was in fact on the Island

Thread here
http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=94805

shyguy
05-08-2008, 01:36 AM
Good Lord. I would stop watching. This show is becoming daytime soap opera.

cico_jroberts
05-08-2008, 02:46 AM
Miles to Sawyer: "What are you, her big brother?" That's how he's acting. Like a protective big brother.


It can go both ways with this Sawyer/Claire thing. It baffles me to see a softer side of sawyer towards claire, he was never ever really that 'soft' around kate. So that leads me to say that sawyer treats claire and aaron like his own family. Sawyer has a softer side for children. I believe that sawyer is a mean being when he's actually attracted to someone. (kate and ana lucia)

BUT, maybe the island has changed sawyer.. hmm.. maybe the island made him a nicer guy.. well i dont know.. i'm just mumbling here.. I'd really like to see Sawyer and Claire become an love item.. it'll bring some drama to the plot:confused:

we just have to wait and see now dont we=)

nickc2445
05-08-2008, 10:54 AM
this really isnt that hard to understand. sawyer has changed over the course of the season, dating back to the end of season 3. he was a friend of charlie's and he took his death harder than most people, with the exeception of hurley and claire. sawyer asked hurley numerous times if he was OK and if he wanted to talk about it. all we have here is sawyer protecting the woman that his friend charlie loved, and will do anything to make sure that claire gets off the island and back to safety. sawyer knows it is the reason that charlie sacrificed himself to begin with. personally i dont even see how anyone can think sawyer and claire could/would be an item. completely ridiculous.

AmoebaJo
05-08-2008, 10:59 AM
this really isnt that hard to understand. sawyer has changed over the course of the season, dating back to the end of season 3. he was a friend of charlie's and he took his death harder than most people, with the exeception of hurley and claire. sawyer asked hurley numerous times if he was OK and if he wanted to talk about it. all we have here is sawyer protecting the woman that his friend charlie loved, and will do anything to make sure that claire gets off the island and back to safety. sawyer knows it is the reason that charlie sacrificed himself to begin with. personally i dont even see how anyone can think sawyer and claire could/would be an item. completely ridiculous.

Thank you!!

EmptyJar
05-08-2008, 11:08 AM
Double thanks!!

DrScott
05-08-2008, 01:29 PM
I see where people are coming from, but I hope that the writers aren't going down the same line. After Charlie's death seeing anyone else with Claire seems inappropriate.

I think the behaviour that Sawyer is showing towards Claire is his way of coping with a deep-rooted guilt. Guilt over his own daughter, but also perhaps towards Charlie, in a bereaving sense. When he tries to have a heart to heart with Hurley in 401, maybe this wasn't for Hurley, but for himself. We are certainly seeing the sensitive side to Sawyer, so we know he has one, its just not easy for him to show it.

For that reason, I think that Romance is out of the question, instead he is doing what he feels is right by Charlie as a way of remembering him and the lengths he went to to help everyone else.

ked
05-08-2008, 03:52 PM
Maybe it's just a way of showing how Sawyer has changed... and if it turns out that the promise Kate makes to him has to do with Clementine, it will be a good lead-up to that because he is protecting a child. His paternal instinct might kick in!

chemgirl81
05-08-2008, 03:55 PM
I see it, totally see it. They have been getting much closer through each episode, and it would be a nice turn of events if Sawyer was suppose to raise the child with Claire.

The show is about redemption right? Well maybe Sawyer is redeeming himself from being a non-existent father in Clementine's life to being the eventual father figure for Aaron if that is indeed the case.
took the words right out of my mouth

Elf-lady
05-08-2008, 06:45 PM
If Claire isn't dead (which I'm praying she isn't), having her in a relationship, whether platonic or not, but a trusting, real, no-game relationship with Sawyer on teh island would really "seal the heal", so to speak, for both. Neither of them has really completed their 'redemption' yet. That could be how they do it.

lyly ford
05-11-2008, 12:37 PM
the episode shown sawyer was the big brother and it should be jack but jack left the island... and as hurley said you're not supposed to raise him 'cause he should be on the island with claire and daddy chrichri zombie familly :cool:

losttvfan
05-11-2008, 06:20 PM
I agree with Lyly, TPTB had Miles verbally confirm Sawyer's role with Claire as one of a big brother. We can assume from that they saw the possibility of fans shipping this pairing and spoke directly to the audience, cutting that idea off at the pass.