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tektim
05-09-2008, 03:38 AM
I still think it's interesting that Hurley was the one who really found the cabin. I am not totally convinced that Locke is the chosen one.

Any thoughts on this? Anyone? Anyone?

jackdavinci
05-09-2008, 05:40 AM
They thought they needed Hurley since he has seen the cabin last, but John is the one who ended up finding the cabin by getting the map to it after his dream of Horace.

VoyagerCSL
05-09-2008, 06:00 AM
Jackdavinci, do not correct people when you're the one who's wrong.

It was Hurley, in fact, who literally *found* the cabin. Locke may have lead the way, but it was Hurley who first set eyes upon it, and pointed it out to Locke and Ben.

Screaming Viking
05-09-2008, 06:10 AM
Hey, all the principles involved with the cabin have Daddy issues:

Hugo's dad walked out on his family (presumably to go on tour with Chong),

Ben resented and ultimately killed his dad.

Locke was swindled out of a kidney by his dad. And, oh yeah, was thrown out a window by him, and let's not forget about getting Sawyer to kill him...

Lija
05-09-2008, 06:13 AM
Yes, imo, although John was the one who led them in the right direction (and that was because he found the map),
ultimately it was Hugo who actually saw the cabin first. John had said something like, "It's about 200 yards away," and then he & Ben stopped for one of their little power-trysts, and so Hugo got in the lead again, so it was he who actually "found" the cabin.

Good observation, too: that the guys all had Daddy issues--but then again, so many of the Lostaways do.

ANTIDEAD
05-09-2008, 06:29 AM
Locke's dream lead them to the cabin, hurley just happened to be walking ahead.

Screaming Viking
05-09-2008, 06:31 AM
Yeah, me thinks Carlton and/or Damon might have daddy issues too, or maybe there's something there, because (now that I think about it) their mothers have paralells too. Maybe Hurley is Chosen and/or prematurely born.

I floated this in a thread earlier, PreeMees are the Chosen, but so far no thoughts from from the 'lagers.

JSYGirl
05-09-2008, 06:31 AM
I still think it's interesting that Hurley was the one who really found the cabin. I am not totally convinced that Locke is the chosen one.

Agreed.

We know Locke was chosen by someone or something. But Ben was as well - and then he got a tumour on his spine. Then there's Jacob's List - wanna bet that everyone on that list is "special" too? (actually, about the list... I think Claire's on it. Also Sawyer, Hurley, and almost certainly Walt)

And then there's Mr. Alpert. I'd say that at some point he was chosen/told he was "special" as well.

Perhaps... the island/Jacob/a force as yet unseen (which could be Smokey for all I know) chooses the "special" people to act on it's behalf - the Chosen One then becomes leader of the other Island residents, and is replaced when and if the island/Jacob/whoever chooses a new Special Person.

So... of the characters we've met:

Richard was leading the so-called Hostiles when Ben was a child. So he was the first known character to be identified as Special. So whatever the Island needed at that time, Richard was best equipped to provide it.
When Ben was an adult (during/after the Purge), the Island's requirements changed... and Ben was the next Chosen One (though I imagine he would have been identified as possibly special as a child - see ep. 3.22).
Then Ben lead the Islanders for a while, and everything was lovely... until he got interested in the fertility problem and eventually brought in Juliet. (Richard told Locke that the fertility "novelty" was "a waste of their time") The Island could have "seen" that Ben was no longer a suitable leader/agent (because he was distracted from his "true purpose"?)- and that's why Ben got the tumour.

Then the plane crashed, and the Island found John Locke - healing his crushed spine and letting him walk again because he is "special" and he was needed to protect the Island (currently: from Keamy and Co).

Does this make any sense to anyone?

RodimusBen
05-09-2008, 07:34 AM
Whoever ultimately "found" the cabin, the point is that the people who have a special destiny on the island are working together to bring it about.

stefanie_bean
05-09-2008, 11:14 AM
Hurley saw the cabin because of some of his intrinsic qualities, who he is and what he is like. I went into it in post #38 (http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showpost.php?p=1881993&postcount=38)on the Ben and Hurley Sharing a Chocolate Bar thread; don't want to just repeat it here.

Lija
05-12-2008, 09:14 PM
Then there's Jacob's List - wanna bet that everyone on that list is "special" too?

And then there's Mr. Alpert. I'd say that at some point he was chosen/told he was "special" as well.

Perhaps... the island/Jacob/a force as yet unseen (which could be Smokey for all I know) chooses the "special" people to act on its behalf - the Chosen One then becomes leader of the other Island residents, and is replaced when and if the island/Jacob/whoever chooses a new Special Person.

So whatever the Island needed at that time, Richard was best equipped to provide it.

.... everything was lovely... until Ben got interested in the fertility problem and eventually brought in Juliet.

Does this make any sense to anyone?

Yes, it does. Nice post, J'Girl.

And just WHY is Ben so interested in the "fertility problem," hmmm? I think that question answers itself, but of course, that's a topic for another thread. ;)

design_sis
05-12-2008, 11:36 PM
Locke may have found the map, but I have to agree that Hurley found the cabin. Even at one point while they were walking through the jungle, Ben made the comment that he was following Hurley. Hmmm...

irish77
05-13-2008, 12:06 AM
Maybe I missed it but wasn't the "map" that Locke found simply a diagram of the cabin? Didn't seem like much of a map. Besides whats the point of a map for a cabin that moves. If it had a pattern I think Ben would've figured that out by now.

Either way they found it and all 3 of them are special

art_lipchalk
05-13-2008, 12:26 AM
Maybe I missed it but wasn't the "map" that Locke found simply a diagram of the cabin? Didn't seem like much of a map. Besides whats the point of a map for a cabin that moves. If it had a pattern I think Ben would've figured that out by now.

Either way they found it and all 3 of them are special

I think the point we're supposed to take from this episode is that you don't find the cabin. It makes itself available to you when it wants to be found. That map was waiting for Locke to find it, and until he found it, the cabin would be right where the map indicated. Besides, who knows if the map will change later once the cabin moves? And from the screenshots I saw, it looked kind of like a map. I remember Locke pointing to parts of it recounting where they came from...