I'll get a screencap, but it's a spiraling vortex ending in an Orchid...down the rabbit hole we go...Wheeeeeeeeeeee....!!!!!!!!!

I wondered about that, too. I am thinking that it is symbolic and not literal like the other logos. The spiral is puzzling to me as well as the shape in the middle.

It reminds me of a woman's huh... I'm thinking of a Georgia O'Keeffe painting.... Lit' help here?

Hint: Orchid = Tasty Coma Wife. I can't do this all on my own. No I'm no super-orchid man.

Papa Thor, "Sometimes a cigar is just cigar." :rolleyes:

Papa Thor, "Sometimes a cigar is just cigar." :rolleyes:
It's like a spiral ending in a bud, suggesting that the spiral ending starts the flower (island?) on the end by creating a budding effect...Orchids were also sacred to Apollo, hence the station name...(<>..<>)

I wondered about that, too. I am thinking that it is symbolic and not literal like the other logos. The spiral is puzzling to me as well as the shape in the middle.

It reminds me of a woman's huh... I'm thinking of a Georgia O'Keeffe painting.... Lit' help here?

Hint: Orchid = Tasty Coma Wife. I can't do this all on my own. No I'm no super-orchid man.
LOL!! Orchids do look like what you're suggesting but I'm not saying!

But did you know.....The name orchid originates from the Greek ~orchis~ meaning ~testicle~ because of the shape of the bulbous roots.?

What I'm more interested in is not the actual design of the Orchid logo, but what was it doing in Daniel's Journal? Plus he also knows about the secondary protocol. So how does Daniel know all this deeply classified information?

What I'm more interested in is not the actual design of the Orchid logo, but what was it doing in Daniel's Journal? Plus he also knows about the secondary protocol. So how does Daniel know all this deeply classified information?
It was in the journal about Des being his constant..so maybe he has been through this before? Or perhaps Daniel has always known more than we thought....

"But did you know.....The name orchid originates from the Greek ~orchis~ meaning ~testicle~ because of the shape of the bulbous roots.?"

That's what I get for taking Latin in school. You are right. It does look like a man's testicles.

And speaking of Greek, I think the following should lighten the mood here. Even more.

Two nuns, while touring the Museum of Modern Art, got separated.

When they met up again, one of the nuns quietly said to the other, "Did you see that Greek statute of a naked man. His manhood was so huge."

And the other nun whispered, "And cold."

P. S. I forgot to do the "quote" thingy.

Daniel is "in the know" with the whole time travel aspect.... Perhaps he has been on this path before and that's why the Orchid sign is in his journal? Because he panicked when he realized they were using the 2nd protocol...clearly he knows it's bad.

Daniel is "in the know" with the whole time travel aspect.... Perhaps he has been on this path before and that's why the Orchid sign is in his journal? Because he panicked when he realized they were using the 2nd protocol...clearly he knows it's bad.

Yes, I think the suggestion is that Dan's been through this before, aside from the Orchid, how would he know what the Secondary protocol was since it was locked in a safe that could only be activated with the Captain's and Keamy's key? I don't think Widmore would have taken Dan aside and told him about the secondary protocol.

Yes, I think the suggestion is that Dan's been through this before, aside from the Orchid, how would he know what the Secondary protocol was since it was locked in a safe that could only be activated with the Captain's and Keamy's key? I don't think Widmore would have taken Dan aside and told him about the secondary protocol.

And yet Dan does know the Orchid = the secondary protocol. Is it because he has been time jumping? Or perhaps Abaddon told him?

Dan is the man- he knows all-
and yes i totally agree that he has probably been thru this at least once-
justifying why he was crying when seeing about the crash on tv- he knew he had to go back......
and the way it was in the middle of his notebook, not the end would imply that he wasnt briefed of the station right before the trip. at least thats the way i see it.

and for what its worth- orchids are very hard to grow, as i am sure an island is....

I dunno-it seems they each may have compartmentalized information in various areas of the island. Alot of stuff seems to be on a "need to know" basis, hence a partial map that showed just The Tempest. Obviously they would have been briefed on that station since it was on their to-do list. You give everybody their piece of the info, and not all of the info, and it keeps them from putting the whole picture together. Daniel being a physicist probably means that he was briefed about more of the stations than the non-scientific people who were on the original "away team".

Charlotte seems to already know her role, and things that pertain to that role (anthropology/archeology) before she even got there i.e. the polar bear excavation. It seems she's helping in the hunt for "Wonderland". Notice her sense of wonderment when she finally gets her boots down on the island. She's amazed she's actually here (or back here again?) Truly, she seems to be Alice in Wonderland at that point, literally. She tells Claire that "it's amazing" that she birthed Aaron on the island, so she must know sum tings, maybe just aliddlebit here, just aliddlebit dere...said as Deniro or Soprano, pick one...(<>..<>)

It occurs to me that the Fantastic 4 may have been chosen because they either already work for Widmore... or they have been investigating Dharma related stuff on their own and need to be stopped/eliminated. Maybe Widmore gives them one way tickets to the island.

I think Dan might have gathered his information before being hired for this gig.

The swirling thingy in Dan's notebook immediately reminded me of a show I loved as a kid called "the Time Tunnel". The time travelers would step into this black and white slowly spinning spiral striped thing and they would travel either into the future or the past depending on how they set the machine. It was a great show to me as a kid.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Time_Tunnel

image of swirly tunnel thing

http://www.goatstar.org/TimeTunnel.jpg

Strange even the computers look like those found in the hatches so far. :)

The swirling thingy in Dan's notebook immediately reminded me of a show I loved as a kid called "the Time Tunnel". The time travelers would step into this black and white slowly spinning spiral striped thing and they would travel either into the future or the past depending on how they set the machine. It was a great show to me as a kid.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Time_Tunnel

image of swirly tunnel thing

http://www.goatstar.org/TimeTunnel.jpg

Strange even the computers look like those found in the hatches so far. :)

LOL, not to make light of your post, but seeing that "swirly tunnel thing" reminded me of Dr. Evil's "time machine" from "Austin Power's: They Spy Who Shagged Me". They both look very similar. Weren't those "spirals" also in a few episodes of the cartoon Spiderman shows? Those funky ones I always hated as a kid........

It would make sense that Daniel has been gathering information about the island ever since his encounter with time- trippin' Desmond. Especially considering the fact that Desmond's time-trippin' is the same thing that 90's Daniel is already working on(obsessively, I might add). Plus, we don't know what info he was made privy to prior to getting on the freighter. I also agree that the info among " the fantastic four" is compartmentalized. it seems each has info about the island that pertains to their particular fields.

LOL, not to make light of your post, but seeing that "swirly tunnel thing" reminded me of Dr. Evil's "time machine" from "Austin Power's: They Spy Who Shagged Me". They both look very similar. Weren't those "spirals" also in a few episodes of the cartoon Spiderman shows? Those funky ones I always hated as a kid........

Oh no problem :)

I just brought it up because that show from the mid 60's was fun for me in my formative years (1966 I think it was, I was 8 years old then, strange i remember it at all). Sure the image of a swirling black and white tunnel in other shows and movies were surely influenced from that short-lived TV show. :)

LOL, not to make light of your post, but seeing that "swirly tunnel thing" reminded me of Dr. Evil's "time machine" from "Austin Power's: They Spy Who Shagged Me". They both look very similar. Weren't those "spirals" also in a few episodes of the cartoon Spiderman shows? Those funky ones I always hated as a kid........

Did it look at all like this? : http://www.iann.net/timetunnel/model/ I wouldn't want to be the judge in a plagerism case involving time travel - how the hell would you ever figure out who had the original idea?

Broadcast on ABC. neat.

The swirling thingy in Dan's notebook immediately reminded me of a show I loved as a kid called "the Time Tunnel". The time travelers would step into this black and white slowly spinning spiral striped thing and they would travel either into the future or the past depending on how they set the machine. It was a great show to me as a kid.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Time_Tunnel

image of swirly tunnel thing

http://www.goatstar.org/TimeTunnel.jpg

Strange even the computers look like those found in the hatches so far. :)

Did it look at all like this? : http://www.iann.net/timetunnel/model/ I wouldn't want to be the judge in a plagerism case involving time travel - how the hell would you ever figure out who had the original idea?

Broadcast on ABC. neat.

Interesting, but in one of those "pictures", they were showing the "time tunnel" from the side and showed the floor of the room, and there appears to be an hourglass in yellow and black. Is it just me or is the hourglass shape similar to the DHARMA logos? Not exactly similar at all, but there appears to be similarities, the way the figure is shaped. Seems like Damon or Carlton may have been a viewer of this show as well. Good catch!:)

I still wondering if anyone really expects the Orch to "move" the Island???
Im expecting some kinda "non literal" solution.
The guys that wants to destroy the Island are currently on it....
Unless, the "secondary protocol" is something HUGE..

The swirling logo is very very interesting.. Orchid has that poison Ivy feel just from the outside alone.. creepy.



"Duddddeeee!!!!"

Interesting, but in one of those "pictures", they were showing the "time tunnel" from the side and showed the floor of the room, and there appears to be an hourglass in yellow and black. Is it just me or is the hourglass shape similar to the DHARMA logos? Not exactly similar at all, but there appears to be similarities, the way the figure is shaped. Seems like Damon or Carlton may have been a viewer of this show as well. Good catch!:)

Hi Todd - I've seen a number of hour glasses on the show which I liken to the cones so often employed in illustrations of things time related e.g. : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_cone

The spiral is on top of the hourglass I think.... but then I think the two leaves sprouting on the tip of the vine look like a whale's tale. maybe John plans to get a tow from an orca?

Hi Todd - I've seen a number of hour glasses on the show which I liken to the cones so often employed in illustrations of things time related e.g. : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_cone

The spiral is on top of the hourglass I think.... but then I think the two leaves sprouting on the tip of the vine look like a whale's tale. maybe John plans to get a tow from an orca?

You mean like this one in Harper's office?--look to the right...

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa95/UnderAlienControl/PDVD_092-1.jpg (http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa95/UnderAlienControl/PDVD_092-1.jpg)

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa95/UnderAlienControl/PDVD_092-1-1.jpg (http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa95/UnderAlienControl/PDVD_092-1-1.jpg)
(<>..<>)

I still wondering if anyone really expects the Orch to "move" the Island???

Yes, I personally expect to see Faraday about to head back for another load when the entire island simply vanishes from sight. It's either going to teleport or phase out of reaility. I don't expect actualy continuous motion relative to the Earth, as if the Island was a big boat, but I am expecting the "move" to be spatial or dimensional rather than a movement in time or a simple realignment of the 305 degrees to some other vector of entry

-AJF

You mean like this one in Harper's office?--look to the right...

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa95/UnderAlienControl/PDVD_092-1.jpg (http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa95/UnderAlienControl/PDVD_092-1.jpg)

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa95/UnderAlienControl/PDVD_092-1-1.jpg (http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa95/UnderAlienControl/PDVD_092-1-1.jpg)
(<>..<>)

Yes! I saw that one and thought, I'll bet Harper inverts that when you arrive for a session and she shows you the door when the last grain falls. "I'm sorry *insincere smile* our hour is up."

The swirling thingy in Dan's notebook immediately reminded me of a show I loved as a kid called "the Time Tunnel". The time travelers would step into this black and white slowly spinning spiral striped thing and they would travel either into the future or the past depending on how they set the machine. It was a great show to me as a kid.The swirl is definitely a nod to the time tunnel.

The fascinating thing about the Orchid logo that no one has touched upon yet is the very clever way in which it simultaneously represents BOTH the fake purpose of the station and the true purpose of the station. The bud in the middle indicates the greenhouse "front," while the time tunnel swirl is a subtle clue to what the Orchid really does.

Yes, I personally expect to see Faraday about to head back for another load when the entire island simply vanishes from sight. It's either going to teleport or phase out of reaility. I don't expect actualy continuous motion relative to the Earth, as if the Island was a big boat, but I am expecting the "move" to be spatial or dimensional rather than a movement in time or a simple realignment of the 305 degrees to some other vector of entry

-AJF
:beammeup:
100%
me too.

I think the logo looks like toosie roll

Though i think it comes from the words Orchard Hidden