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addictedfan
05-15-2008, 11:33 PM
That was great!!!! She has control of Paik Industries! Go girl!!!!

So who else does she hold responsible? Jack?
Does she know Paik was in with Widmore?

ryan0905
05-15-2008, 11:35 PM
So was that what Paik and the other guys were talking about when she walked in. They said the money was used from multiple bank accounts are the others helping to buy out the company?

girlgoescrazy
05-15-2008, 11:40 PM
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's Jack.

I just hope Sun doesn't somehow convert to the "dark side", but that is highly unlikely... I wonder how come Ben and her are not working together...

addictedfan
05-15-2008, 11:43 PM
So was that what Paik and the other guys were talking about when she walked in. They said the money was used from multiple bank accounts are the others helping to buy out the company?
Yep! I love her new "take charge" attitude!
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's Jack.

I just hope Sun doesn't somehow convert to the "dark side", but that is highly unlikely... I wonder how come Ben and her are not working together...


I wonder if this means Jin really dies?!

She was wearing obvious black/white clothes when talking to Daddy which could mean we're going see a another side to her. But I don't think she's going to side with Widmore.

GettinLost
05-15-2008, 11:48 PM
Wow! The potential was always there but the Island sure brought out courage in Sun! I was really proud of her for standing up to her father and letting him know she wasn't going to be talked down to anymore.

As for the other responsible party - you think Jack? Hmmm...

I think Michael. Remember - none of the O6 but Jack went to his funeral and I think he has something to do with why there are only six O6.

addictedfan
05-15-2008, 11:50 PM
Wow! The potential was always there but the Island sure brought out courage in Sun! I was really proud of her for standing up to her father and letting him know she wasn't going to be talked down to anymore.

As for the other responsible party - you think Jack? Hmmm...

I think Michael. Remember - none of the O6 but Jack went to his funeral and I think he has something to do with why there are only six O6.
Sun seems to be the only O6 absent at Christian's service so I'm thinking it's Jack unless it's cuz she's too pregnant to fly.

Pamitha
05-15-2008, 11:57 PM
The settlement must have been generous.

Kate731
05-16-2008, 12:01 AM
Loved this scene... great to see Sun in such a powerful position.

I don't see why it would be Jack though. Maybe its herself? Or Widmore? (If Widmore and Paik are somehow in cahoots or perhaps rivals for the island?)

Exile236
05-16-2008, 12:02 AM
Yes! Loved badass Sun taking over!

And this so leads into my theory that Sun will use Paik's resources to find the Island.

avandelay
05-16-2008, 12:02 AM
Now Sun is the owner of a criminal enterprise. Great.

caforrest2047
05-16-2008, 12:03 AM
At least one of them has gotten over their daddy issues. Too bad the rest didn't, Jacks issues with his father just keep piling up.

toddintexas
05-16-2008, 12:04 AM
I really, REALLY don't like Sun, and don't really care for her whole story, but I assume Paik is probably important to the outcome, so I guess I'll put up with it!:biggrin:

Yeah addie, I think it was either Jack she blames or Michael.

Trixired
05-16-2008, 12:05 AM
Well after that last scene on the boat with Sun on the deck with Aaron and all the C4 she might blame Widmore since he started this search for Ben and gave special orders to the Kermy's men. So her first move is take control of her father's company, run him into retirement, use the money and power to get back at Widmore maybe with help from Penny..just a theory

Lost_4Ever
05-16-2008, 12:09 AM
I think Michael. Remember - none of the O6 but Jack went to his funeral and I think he has something to do with why there are only six O6.
Wasn't Hurley the only one to attend Jins funeral with Sun.

addictedfan
05-16-2008, 12:10 AM
Loved this scene... great to see Sun in such a powerful position.

I don't see why it would be Jack though. Maybe its herself? Or Widmore? (If Widmore and Paik are somehow in cahoots or perhaps rivals for the island?)

I think Jack himself feels responsible for something that happens on the Island. Plus, Sun seemed "irritated" with Jack on the plane and is not at his father's memorial service. Plus,in "Ji Yeon" she and Hurley seemed relieved that none of the other O6 were coming.
But it could be she holds Widmore responsible too...if she even knows about his involvement.
I have this very bad feeling Jin is gonna die on the frieghter.... :frown:
Sun looking back at the room with the explosives looked so ominous to me.

toddintexas
05-16-2008, 12:14 AM
I think Jack himself feels responsible for something that happens on the Island. Plus, Sun seemed "irritated" with Jack on the plane and is not at his father's memorial service. Plus,in "Ji Yeon" she and Hurley seemed relieved that none of the other O6 were coming.
But it could be she holds Widmore responsible too...if she even knows about his involvement.
I have this very bad feeling Jin is gonna die on the frieghter.... :frown:
Sun looking back at the room with the explosives looked so ominous to me.

Well, to be fair addie, I think all of them were looking at Jack that way on the plane back home. I definitely caught Kate, Sayid and Sun looking at him that way. I don't think they liked the situation they were in and were annoyed with Jack for trying to smooth the issue over.

addictedfan
05-16-2008, 12:15 AM
I really, REALLY don't like Sun, and don't really care for her whole story, but I assume Paik is probably important to the outcome, so I guess I'll put up with it!:biggrin:

Yeah addie, I think it was either Jack she blames or Michael.
I've never been a huge Sun fan either but I do like the Sun we have seen in the FF's. I think she is the product of a very overbearing,cold father. And while some of it is cultural ....he still could have put his daughter's needs first. He seems like as a father he was abusive ..maybe not phyisically but at least verbally and emotionally.

She has faced her Daddy issues though..like Caforrest said above!

rjst
05-16-2008, 12:16 AM
To me it seems extremely uncharacteristic for someone like Paik to be vulnerable to having his enterprise taken over. Typically, it would be closely held.

I can accept all the scifi explanations, but this I find totally unplausible.

kansasgal71
05-16-2008, 12:16 AM
I stood up and cheered when Sun confronted her father!!! I love the idea of Sun using the company to find the island....

toddintexas
05-16-2008, 12:18 AM
As for Sun not being at Christian's funeral, I don't think too much should be read into that, after all she's in Korea. Plus I didn't see her at Hurley's party either.

LostLaura
05-16-2008, 12:20 AM
I also found it really odd that Sun was just able to use all that money to take care over. I can't believe Paik wouldn't have his bases covered. I mean, he leads a really risk life, after all. Maybe the rest of the O6 are helping her with their settlements too? I don't know.

Sun wasn't at the CS funeral because she was pregnant and in Korea. The rest of them are in LA so it makes sense for them to be there, and also to attend Hurley's party. Sun is really removed from the rest of them.

toddintexas
05-16-2008, 12:20 AM
To me it seems extremely uncharacteristic for someone like Paik to be vulnerable to having his enterprise taken over. Typically, it would be closely held.

I can accept all the scifi explanations, but this I find totally unplausible.

That is a good point, I mean really how much could Oceanic afford to give all of the O6? Enough to buy out Paik? Would Oceanic as a company have as much money as Paik? Seems unlikely.........

addictedfan
05-16-2008, 12:20 AM
Well after that last scene on the boat with Sun on the deck with Aaron and all the C4 she might blame Widmore since he started this search for Ben and gave special orders to the Kermy's men. So her first move is take control of her father's company, run him into retirement, use the money and power to get back at Widmore maybe with help from Penny..just a theory

Now that would make for a great Plotline....Sun and Penny unite to "overthrow" their Daddies!!!! They actually have a lot in common when you think about it...both have wealthy,powerful,ruthless fathers who didn't think their choices in men were good enough! Both fathers used their money and resources to undermine their relationships with the men they loved.And both fathers were responsible for their loves,Jin and Des ending up on the Island.
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As for Sun not being at Christian's funeral, I don't think too much should be read into that, after all she's in Korea. Plus I didn't see her at Hurley's party either.
True!! Maybe she is too pregnant to fly.
Maybe the other person she holds responsible is herself....although I think she would have said that...hmmmmm....
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That is a good point, I mean really how much could Oceanic afford to give all of the O6? Enough to buy out Paik? Would Oceanic as a company have as much money as Paik? Seems unlikely.........
She could have invested wisely.Plus she didn't buy him out...she is just the majority stockholder in Paik Industries..."controlling interest".
Or maybe Hurley gave her some of his millions!;)
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I also found it really odd that Sun was just able to use all that money to take care over. I can't believe Paik wouldn't have his bases covered. I mean, he leads a really risk life, after all. Maybe the rest of the O6 are helping her with their settlements too? I don't know.

Sun wasn't at the CS funeral because she was pregnant and in Korea. The rest of them are in LA so it makes sense for them to be there, and also to attend Hurley's party. Sun is really removed from the rest of them.
Yeah,you're probably right about why she didn't attend the funeral. And I keep forgetting Sayid lives in LA now too...so she is very removed.

Guinevere
05-16-2008, 12:31 AM
Well after that last scene on the boat with Sun on the deck with Aaron and all the C4 she might blame Widmore since he started this search for Ben and gave special orders to the Kermy's men. So her first move is take control of her father's company, run him into retirement, use the money and power to get back at Widmore maybe with help from Penny..just a theory


I like it! The whole time I was watching that scene, I was saying, "You go, girl!" I so hope that the scenario you described Trixi is what happens.
I think she may blame either Widmore or Jack or even MIchael. We'll have to see...

Sawyerluver
05-16-2008, 12:34 AM
I like it! The whole time I was watching that scene, I was saying, "You go, girl!" I so hope that the scenario you described Trixi is what happens.
I think she may blame either Widmore or Jack or even MIchael. We'll have to see...
Oh yeah!!!! Penny and Sun vs. Daddy Widmore and Daddy Paik!!!!
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Now that would make for a great Plotline....Sun and Penny unite to "overthrow" their Daddies!!!! They actually have a lot in common when you think about it...both have wealthy,powerful,ruthless fathers who didn't think their choices in men were good enough! Both fathers used their money and resources to undermine their relationships with the men they loved.And both fathers were responsible for their loves,Jin and Des ending up on the Island.
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I like that! Sun and Penny would be a great combo! Two very determined ladies!

amberslost
05-16-2008, 12:37 AM
uuuhhhh i'm pretty sure the "other person responsible" is herself. Does that make sense?

I'm fuzzy on all that happened, but I thought their traveling had to do with her trying to escape to America.

toddintexas
05-16-2008, 12:43 AM
uuuhhhh i'm pretty sure the "other person responsible" is herself. Does that make sense?

I'm fuzzy on all that happened, but I thought their traveling had to do with her trying to escape to America.

No, they were on 815 to deliver watches to associates of Sun's father in LA. The plan for Sun was to leave Jin at the Sydney airport and run away. But when she saw Jin with the flower, she changed her mind and went back to Jin. That's how they ended up on the flight together.

Dark Horse
05-16-2008, 12:51 AM
Lets just hope that Sun and Penny don't take 'Get Back at Daddy' lessons from Kate! Yikes!

I was so proud of Sun, and I just love her! GO Sun! Down with Paik!

adam8023
05-16-2008, 12:53 AM
Sun owned Mr Paik!

Awesome!:biggrin:

addictedfan
05-16-2008, 01:41 AM
Back to how she had enough moola to buy up controlling interest...I was joking a little earlier when I said Hurley might have given her some money but maybe he did?! Hurley obviously remained close to Sun in the future.

But I think she got a good sized settlement...probably more than the rest bec/ her husband "died" in the crash and she has a child to take care of...

lockesmithe
05-16-2008, 01:46 AM
In the midst of a great hour of entertainment, the Sun scene at Paik Industries made me almost giddy. It was a powerful scene introducing a new, meaty story line for the talented and underused actress, Yunjin Kim. Okay, I admit it, I was fully giddy after watching the scene.

toddintexas
05-16-2008, 01:48 AM
Back to how she had enough moola to buy up controlling interest...I was joking a little earlier when I said Hurley might have given her some money but maybe he did?! Hurley obviously remained close to Sun in the future.

But I think she got a good sized settlement...probably more than the rest bec/ her husband "died" in the crash and she has a child to take care of...

But addie, if they gave Sun extra cash for Jin dying, then they would have to pay out sums to all the families who lost a family member in the crash. Plus I don't think she would have gooten more money because of Ji Yeon. She has her several months after the rescue, so wasn't even on the Island, and her visit to her daddy was before Ji Yeon was even born and I don't think they would have paid her money for an unborn child.

addictedfan
05-16-2008, 01:48 AM
In the midst of a great hour of entertainment, the Sun scene at Paik Industries made me almost giddy. It was a powerful scene introducing a new, meaty story line for the talented and underused actress, Yunjin Kim. Okay, I admit it, I was fully giddy after watching the scene.

It looks like she and Emilie De Ravin are gonna get some meaty storylines! It's about time the Lost women got some exciting storylines!
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But addie, if they gave Sun extra cash for Jin dying, then they would have to pay out sums to all the families who lost a family member in the crash. Plus I don't think she would have gooten more money because of Ji Yeon. She has her several months after the rescue, so wasn't even on the Island, and her visit to her daddy was before Ji Yeon was even born and I don't think they would have paid her money for an unborn child.

Well, maybe Ben is funding her "takeover". Those Paik dudes were talking about 5 different banks being involved which sounds like Ben...he had many ID's right? That would make an interesting storyline. And just like Sayid,she says to Michael,"You were working for Ben" with disgust in her voice. And we all know,Sayid ends up working for Ben!

Or maybe she had shares already being a Paik...

lostfan9
05-16-2008, 02:36 AM
But addie, if they gave Sun extra cash for Jin dying, then they would have to pay out sums to all the families who lost a family member in the crash. Plus I don't think she would have gooten more money because of Ji Yeon. She has her several months after the rescue, so wasn't even on the Island, and her visit to her daddy was before Ji Yeon was even born and I don't think they would have paid her money for an unborn child.

Law suits often take into account the care and support of children and unborn children, if a man dies in an accident while his wife his pregnant. Furthermore, the O6 are getting hush money, so more than what other families would be getting.

Furthermore, Sun probably owns a substantial amount of stock in her father's business. She could then purchase enough stock to gain control. She could easily divide her money into different banks under different names so the corporation doesn't know she's the one buyng up stock. If she made the transactions fast enough, there wouldn't be enough time for Paik Industries to investigate who was buying them.

Sun could be working for Ben. Ya never know until it's revealed on the show.

Yunjin Kim and Michael Emerson were spotted together traveling to London a few weeks ago. Whose to say they weren't there to film one of the super secret scenes for the finale? Of course, they could have just been there to promote Lost in the UK

:eek2:

Sawyerluver
05-16-2008, 02:39 AM
I'm no expert but I do own some stocks myself and some of my shares do not have voting rights while some do. Plus, I'm sure Sun would have some shares in her name already. So to have a controlling interest she needs more than 50% of the "voting shares" which might be doable if she already owned a good amount. She doesn't own the company...as she said to her father,"it's OUR company now".
And I always have to remind myself,we are not "the average viewer". Most viewers wouldn't think twice about the money/stock deal. ;)

But I still want Sun and Penny to work together to bring down both Daddies!

Robin Girl Wonder
05-16-2008, 02:40 AM
Sun is one bad mama!! I was so proud of her! :biggrin:

In your face Paik!!!

Sawyerluver
05-16-2008, 03:12 AM
I bet Sun helps fund the Losties in getting back to the Island. It's still not clear to me though if she knows her father is connected to Widmore. Well,I think he is connected to Widmore Industries. :confused:

quizzical
05-16-2008, 03:49 AM
I cheered when she stood up to her dad. And I'm hoping that Sun will use her new power to try and re-locate the island. Did anyone else notice that Mr. Paik's famous TV screens - which usually show a picture of an island - were turned off?

DoggoneLost
05-16-2008, 05:41 AM
I have been waiting for this exchange for a long time! You go, girl! I was so proud she finally stood up to her patronizing father and the icing on the cake was her declaration of share ownership. What a way to demoralize a man financially. She truly pulled the rug out under his feet!! It will be interesting where TPTB take this storyline and who the other person is that she holds responsible for Jin's death.

AnalogKid
05-16-2008, 05:51 AM
Yunjin Kim was awesome and I couldn't keep the grin off my face during this scene.

addictedfan
05-16-2008, 04:04 PM
I cheered when she stood up to her dad. And I'm hoping that Sun will use her new power to try and re-locate the island. Did anyone else notice that Mr. Paik's famous TV screens - which usually show a picture of an island - were turned off?
Hmmm...no I didn't notice....any other possible "easter eggs" in his office?
I think the "P" in PAIK on the logo looked odd but probably doesn't mean anything.

quizzical
05-16-2008, 05:22 PM
Hmmm...no I didn't notice....any other possible "easter eggs" in his office?
I think the "P" in PAIK on the logo looked odd but probably doesn't mean anything.

The "P" in Paik reminded me of the orchid station logo

Paik logo: http://lostpedia.com/wiki/Image:PaikLogo.jpg
Orchid logo: http://lostpedia.com/wiki/Image:OrchidBG.jpg

And now that I've had a night to sleep on it, I wonder if the TVs being turned off has something to do with Locke moving the island.

addictedfan
05-16-2008, 05:24 PM
The "P" in Paik reminded me of the orchid station logo.

Paik logo: http://lostpedia.com/wiki/Image:PaikLogo.jpg
Orchid logo: http://lostpedia.com/wiki/Image:OrchidBG.jpg

And now that I've had a night to sleep on it, I wonder if the TVs being turned off has something to do with Locke moving the island.
I love that someone else thinks the way I do!! I am often said to overanalyze things in Lost but I think you are so right!!! Esp. about the Island....Very nice!!!

And thanks for the screencaps!!!
The Orchid logo and the "P" do look similiar ....like I heard someone else say....looks like "going down the rabbit hole'!

It looks like a fish tail on the Orchid logo...or is supposed to look like an Orchid?

addictedfan
05-17-2008, 11:50 PM
I've been thinking that the other person Sun held respnsible for Jin's death is either Jack or Sun,herself.
Many of us seem to have trouble believing Sun could afford the "takeover" (even with a huge settlement).... I'm leaning more and more to Ben assisting her financially in the takeover and here's why...
If Ben lets her know that Widmore is behind the freighter,Keamy, and the killings then she could hold Widmore responsible. I can see Ben using this info with her just like he did with Sayid! And just as with Sayid...within the interaction/conversation with Michael,she says distastefully,"but you are working for Ben"! And we all know Sayid who said the same to Michael does end up "working" for Ben.

SoCalChelle
05-18-2008, 02:55 AM
Maybe the rest of the O6 are helping her with their settlements too? I don't know.


Mr Paik did say the money came from 5 different banks...

KrystalStar
05-18-2008, 04:26 AM
Since no one else threw it out there I'm just going to introduce the possibility that perhaps Jin is the one responsible for his own death?......

Sawyerluver
05-18-2008, 10:51 AM
Since no one else threw it out there I'm just going to introduce the possibility that perhaps Jin is the one responsible for his own death?......

Now that could be! Although,I don't know if she'd blame Jin and blame her father?
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Mr Paik did say the money came from 5 different banks...
Well Kate obviously uses her settlement with her nice house in a pricey area of LA,her new Volvo, and the attorney fees. So I doubt she would contribute much...

CarpeDiem23
05-18-2008, 11:42 AM
in defense of this unrealistic storyline lets not forget alot of the show has been condensed....

baylady
05-18-2008, 11:43 AM
Yeah, but.... If they're putting up this front that Jin died the day of the crash (presumably IN the crash, right?) why is she saying to her father that there are two people responsible for his death? Is it because her father is the reason he was on the flight? Is it presuming her father knows that isn't the truth about how he died? What am I missing here?

LaLaManfr0
05-18-2008, 12:24 PM
Sun just gained some major awesome in this episode.

Sawyerluver
05-18-2008, 02:45 PM
Yeah, but.... If they're putting up this front that Jin died the day of the crash (presumably IN the crash, right?) why is she saying to her father that there are two people responsible for his death? Is it because her father is the reason he was on the flight? Is it presuming her father knows that isn't the truth about how he died? What am I missing here?
I do think like she said she blames him for being on the flight. And,maybe she is hinting to Paik that there is more to the story of his involvement.

PJ05
05-18-2008, 06:00 PM
This was the best scene between Sun and her dad. Behind the one when she borrows money and Jin has to pay for it.

JDisLost
05-18-2008, 07:05 PM
Sun just gained some major awesome in this episode.
Definitely, I've always liked Sun, and this is certainly one of my favorite Sun moments. I couldn't help but give a silent cheer as she the scene played out.
I've been thinking that the other person Sun held respnsible for Jin's death is either Jack or Sun,herself.
Many of us seem to have trouble believing Sun could afford the "takeover" (even with a huge settlement).... I'm leaning more and more to Ben assisting her financially in the takeover and here's why...
If Ben lets her know that Widmore is behind the freighter,Keamy, and the killings then she could hold Widmore responsible. I can see Ben using this info with her just like he did with Sayid! And just as with Sayid...within the interaction/conversation with Michael,she says distastefully,"but you are working for Ben"! And we all know Sayid who said the same to Michael does end up "working" for Ben.
Sounds pretty good to me. I have feeling that Ben has been playing a role in more than just Sayid's off Island life.

nooai
05-20-2008, 12:21 AM
Sun and Penny- great combo! :D

kansasgal71
05-20-2008, 12:26 AM
I am woman, hear me roar
In numbers too big to ignore
And I know too much to go back an' pretend
'cause I've heard it all before
And I've been down there on the floor
No one's ever gonna keep me down again

CHORUS
Oh yes I am wise
But it's wisdom born of pain
Yes, I've paid the price
But look how much I gained
If I have to, I can do anything
I am strong (strong)
I am invincible (invincible)
I am woman

You can bend but never break me
'cause it only serves to make me
More determined to achieve my final goal
And I come back even stronger
Not a novice any longer
'cause you've deepened the conviction in my soul

Guinevere
05-20-2008, 12:35 AM
KG!!! I love that and I love your new avi as well! :groove:

Pink Human
05-20-2008, 02:11 AM
I thought either the other O6 had pooled their funds to buy controlling interest in Paik Industries or Hurley had gifted Sun with lottery funds to work the deal. The other option is Ben since we've seen that he has access to quite a large amount of cash.

Whomever bankrolled Sun, it has to be someone who has deep pockets. And serious STEALTH abilities since Mr. Paik was caugth off guard by the takeover.

And, wow, Sun has gone from sweet little button-uped sweater girl in Season 1 to this season's channeling of Uma Thurman in Kill Bill. Wow. Really. W-O-W.

Sawyerluver
05-21-2008, 02:03 AM
I thought either the other O6 had pooled their funds to buy controlling interest in Paik Industries or Hurley had gifted Sun with lottery funds to work the deal. The other option is Ben since we've seen that he has access to quite a large amount of cash.

Whomever bankrolled Sun, it has to be someone who has deep pockets. And serious STEALTH abilities since Mr. Paik was caugth off guard by the takeover.

And, wow, Sun has gone from sweet little button-uped sweater girl in Season 1 to this season's channeling of Uma Thurman in Kill Bill. Wow. Really. W-O-W.

Stealth abilities and deep pockets...sounds like Benjamin Linus to me!
I hope Sun's "take charge" personality continues nest season! She may turn out to be a force to be reckoned with!

Charmedfreak
05-21-2008, 05:40 AM
Suns certainly gotten way more interesting, finally shes getting some decent character progression and story, fingers crossed it gets better in season 5.

childrenofsteel
05-21-2008, 06:40 AM
Yeah, but.... If they're putting up this front that Jin died the day of the crash (presumably IN the crash, right?) why is she saying to her father that there are two people responsible for his death? Is it because her father is the reason he was on the flight? Is it presuming her father knows that isn't the truth about how he died? What am I missing here?

Very good point!! I think this adds more weight to the theory that Widmore and Paik are working together..and that Sun knows they are. Widmore obviously knows that the 06 story is a lie, and so, presumably, would Paik. Maybe Sun sees no need to 'pretend' to her father as they both know the truth?

I also think this points towards Sun 'working for Ben' (a la Sayid)...If she knows that Widmore and her father were behind the 'island assault' that ultimately killed Jin, then she might very well want to exact revenge on both of them, and Ben's access to unlimited funds could be very useful in that regard!!!

fairyprincess37
05-21-2008, 09:23 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but in re-watching the episode....when Paik and his goonies are talking before Sun comes into the office, one of the men says..."the money came from FIVE different accounts...". This could be significant. Perhaps Sun and the four other adult O6 pooled their money to buy out Paik because they know he is involved somehow.
I thought when Sun said 2 were responsible for Jin's death, she was referring to daddy and WIDMORE. After all, if Jin is to blow up with the frieghter, which I really do think will happen.....and Sun finds out it was Widmore that sent the Freighter with Keamy and the explosives...she would most certainly blame Widmore. Now if Widmore and Paik are in this together (maybe Paik financially backs Widmore)....then she could have easily convinced the other O6 members to pool their settlement money to take over Paik....
:drowsy: FP

Sawyerluver
05-21-2008, 12:46 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but in re-watching the episode....when Paik and his goonies are talking before Sun comes into the office, one of the men says..."the money came from FIVE different accounts...". This could be significant. Perhaps Sun and the four other adult O6 pooled their money to buy out Paik because they know he is involved somehow.
I thought when Sun said 2 were responsible for Jin's death, she was referring to daddy and WIDMORE. After all, if Jin is to blow up with the frieghter, which I really do think will happen.....and Sun finds out it was Widmore that sent the Freighter with Keamy and the explosives...she would most certainly blame Widmore. Now if Widmore and Paik are in this together (maybe Paik financially backs Widmore)....then she could have easily convinced the other O6 members to pool their settlement money to take over Paik....
:drowsy: FP
I like that a lot FP! And some of the O6 may have helped but has as been said( I think)...Kate seems to have used much of hers....the expensive house,new car,and all the court/attorney fees. I really think Ben is helping her financially whether she knows it or not. He has the resources and know how to assist her with the takeover and get it done before Paik knows what happened!
And I do believe Paik is connected to Widmore without a doubt!

addictedfan
05-21-2008, 01:04 PM
SF, You made me think of something....
I believe that Ben will be involved back on the mainland with many of the O6 not just Sayid. I wouldn't be suprised to find out that Ben "helps" the O6 get away from the Island. That way he can use them Off-Island to continue with The Game he seems to be playing against Widmore. Two sets of pawns...On Island and Off Island. From what we know now,Ben will be on a mission to find Penny which could mean he will be on the mainland more frequently!
We know he uses Sayid as an Off Island Pawn....I'd also maintain he bankrolled Sun's obtaining controlling interest in Paik Industries. Ben also could have arranged for Kate's being found innocent. Not sure about how he would be involved with Hurley or Jack at this point though.

woland
05-21-2008, 06:30 PM
I did like the strong Sun standing up to her father. But more importantly I think having one of the Oceanic 6 have a controlling interest in a large corporation might come in handy for the six when and if they decide to go back to the island.

TK 421
05-21-2008, 06:49 PM
I bet Sun helps fund the Losties in getting back to the Island. It's still not clear to me though if she knows her father is connected to Widmore. Well,I think he is connected to Widmore Industries. :confused:

Yah know, I have a theory about that! I think it might have been in the Lost Experience, it was revealed that Paik Industries had a division working with specially reinforced concrete. This made me think of all the Dharma Bunkers, the Swan in particular as they would need some very strong concrete to contain the forces being played around with there.
100%

I also think this points towards Sun 'working for Ben' (a la Sayid)...If she knows that Widmore and her father were behind the 'island assault' that ultimately killed Jin, then she might very well want to exact revenge on both of them, and Ben's access to unlimited funds could be very useful in that regard!!!

Definately sounds like something Ben would use to recruit Sun, just like he used Nadia's death to recruit Sayid.

KDLOST
05-21-2008, 07:10 PM
Do you think that since Hurley and Sun are now big buds, that Hurley could've used some of his money (lottery) to help Sun? I mean, he doesn't want to use it, but maybe would give it away to her! (Even though he thinks it's cursed... maybe it's only cursed to him??)

Also, maybe Sun wants to use Paik to get back to the island b/c that's where Jin really is and she knows Paik's somehow involved? I mean, let's not forget Penny's comment that 'with enough money and determination, you can find anyone...' maybe Sun, the determined and now rich and powerful mother and wife, is trying to find Jin... especially because the island moved... maybe she, like Penny (with regards to Desmond) doesn't believe Jin's dead. If Widmore and Paik are in bed with this whole shebang, it would be quite interesting to see their daughters rebelling.

This is TOTAL speculation, of course. But an interesting theory I suppose... after all, Hurley was the only one to come after Ji Yeon's birth...and visit Jin's grave.

toddintexas
05-21-2008, 09:56 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but in re-watching the episode....when Paik and his goonies are talking before Sun comes into the office, one of the men says..."the money came from FIVE different accounts...". This could be significant. Perhaps Sun and the four other adult O6 pooled their money to buy out Paik because they know he is involved somehow.
I thought when Sun said 2 were responsible for Jin's death, she was referring to daddy and WIDMORE. After all, if Jin is to blow up with the frieghter, which I really do think will happen.....and Sun finds out it was Widmore that sent the Freighter with Keamy and the explosives...she would most certainly blame Widmore. Now if Widmore and Paik are in this together (maybe Paik financially backs Widmore)....then she could have easily convinced the other O6 members to pool their settlement money to take over Paik....
:drowsy: FP

I just don't think the rest of the O6 helped finance Sun's takeover. During Ji Yeon, the O6 just seemed to be estranged from each other, Hurley was even glad no one else showed up to see Sun and Ji Yeon. I know this occurred after the buy out, but if I just gave someone enough money to help buy out a billion dollar company, as a united front against Paik and Widmore, I think I'd be a little nostalgic for them. But until we find out how much the settlement figure was, it's hard to speculate.:biggrin:

I think Ben is behind it whether or not Sun knows, but I'm betting she knows. She didn't seem all that offended when Michael told them he was working for Ben, and Sun is ruthless, just like her father, so I wouldn't be surprised if she aligned herself with Ben to enact revenge. She's a chip of the 'ol block.

addictedfan
05-21-2008, 11:22 PM
I just don't think the rest of the O6 helped finance Sun's takeover. During Ji Yeon, the O6 just seemed to be estranged from each other, Hurley was even glad no one else showed up to see Sun and Ji Yeon. I know this occurred after the buy out, but if I just gave someone enough money to help buy out a billion dollar company, as a united front against Paik and Widmore, I think I'd be a little nostalgic for them. But until we find out how much the settlement figure was, it's hard to speculate.:biggrin:

I think Ben is behind it whether or not Sun knows, but I'm betting she knows. She didn't seem all that offended when Michael told them he was working for Ben, and Sun is ruthless, just like her father, so I wouldn't be surprised if she aligned herself with Ben to enact revenge. She's a chip of the 'ol block.

They are all turning out to be "chips off the 'ol block"! Well, I guess that was a slight exaggeration! LOL!
But Jack sure is!

Trixired
05-23-2008, 12:37 AM
Ok, I'm going to add this into the talk about money that no one has mentioned so far; We know Sun hasn't outright bought Paik Industries but has purchased a major share and so has a controlling interest. We can all agree that the O6 got a nice pay-off from Oceanic and probably more then what would have been reported since Oceanic is trying to maintain their image. I like the idea that Sun already own shares in the company which make sense.

However, (and here comes what no one has mentioned) Sun would have also received a settlement from the life insurance that Jin and her would have owned. Considering what Sun would have been worth as the only heir to Paik Industries she would have had to have had some SERIOUS life insurance and after her and Jin were married he would have been added to the policy. Once she returned to the world any monies paid out to the beneficiary would have reverted back Sun. That money on top of what she got from the crash would have given her a lot of leverage to buy into Paik.

Just a thought