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UnderAlienControl
05-15-2008, 11:52 PM
There is a very wormhole like design in a picture on the wall behind Jack in the church when he's talking to Claire's mom. I'll try to get a cap. BTW...Claire = we have to go back, Kate? Old Charlie would've loved that place! Giant Virgin Mary's packed with Heroin = Godsmack? LOL
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jinandtonic
05-16-2008, 12:18 AM
What do you mean by "wormhole like"? I'm a bit astrophysically-ignorant and would appreciate you cluing me in. Thanks!

UnderAlienControl
05-16-2008, 12:31 AM
What do you mean by "wormhole like"? I'm a bit astrophysically-ignorant and would appreciate you cluing me in. Thanks!

Behind Jack--Normal: http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa95/UnderAlienControl/PDVD_002.jpg (http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa95/UnderAlienControl/PDVD_002.jpg)

Enhanced: http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa95/UnderAlienControl/PDVD_002-1.jpg (http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa95/UnderAlienControl/PDVD_002-1.jpg)

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jinandtonic
05-16-2008, 02:09 AM
I gotcha now (pulled out my dusty copy of "Hyperspace"); wonder if it is a reference to the Island's time/space issues. Thanks for the clarification!

Maalstrom Aran
05-16-2008, 02:46 AM
There is also a diagram of a wormhole in Daniel's book while he's looking for the Orchid info.

UnderAlienControl
05-16-2008, 08:13 AM
Got the screencap in here now.
Daniels's Notebook Wormhole:...
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa95/UnderAlienControl/PDVD_008.jpg
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RodimusBen
05-16-2008, 08:30 AM
How is that wormhole-like? We don't even know what one really looks like do we, because they are theoretical?

Fierro
05-16-2008, 08:38 AM
How is that wormhole-like? We don't even know what one really looks like do we, because they are theoretical?
That's how wormholes are pictured to be easier for people to get an idea of what they might do. That is a fact. Google it.
Or you can just look at my Avatar...

UnderAlienControl
05-16-2008, 03:38 PM
Before I got the screencap and edited, I was saying "It's like Fiero's avi!"...
Closeup-Daniel's Notebook:
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa95/UnderAlienControl/PDVD_008-1-1.jpg
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skywalker421
05-16-2008, 03:40 PM
It is plausible that they are in a wormhole, albeit one that is a parallel universe quie similar to our own. First off, the island is in the future because they saw the doctor dead on the beach before his throat was cut. That would also explain why the freighter needs a physicist and why Desmond was time-travel challenged.

RodimusBen
05-16-2008, 06:40 PM
That's how wormholes are pictured to be easier for people to get an idea of what they might do. That is a fact. Google it.
Or you can just look at my Avatar...OK, I wasn't knocking your observation, just asking for clarification on how it resembled a wormhole.

Fierro
05-16-2008, 09:28 PM
Before I got the screencap and edited, I was saying "It's like Fiero's avi!"...
Closeup-Daniel's Notebook:
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa95/UnderAlienControl/PDVD_008-1-1.jpg
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That actually looks more like 2 light cones (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_cone), which makes things a lot more interesting now because they can be used to explain graphically how Closed Timelike Curves work.
BTW, I am pretty sure that they are responsible for The Doctor being alive and dead at the same time.
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OK, I wasn't knocking your observation, just asking for clarification on how it resembled a wormhole.

No prob. Yeah, that is the way they are usually drawn as part of a 2d representation on a flat sheet.

More info here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wormhole


Anyways, I just found out that, in a real 3d environment, wormholes wouldn't 'look' like that, but rather like 'spheres'....

Spherical and Stable:
Although they are generally referred to as “gateways” or “portals” wormholes are in fact nothing like the picture of simple two-dimensional doorways that such terms invoke. Rather they are complex spherical structures that connect widely separated points in space-time. While non-spherical gateways are theoretically possible, the engineering and practical difficulties of such structures are huge. As yet, no credible reports of non-spherical wormholes have been made, although rumors that such structures have been produced by the archai or discovered in some remote region of space continue to persist.





This is actually a pretty nice find since it seems to support (somehow?) my 'concentric rotational spheres as snowglobe' theory....

Weeping_Buddha
05-16-2008, 09:37 PM
Yeah, I'm sure it's foreshadowing for what's to be expected from the orchid. Thanks for sharing...

Behind Jack--Normal: http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa95/UnderAlienControl/PDVD_002.jpg (http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa95/UnderAlienControl/PDVD_002.jpg)

Enhanced: http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa95/UnderAlienControl/PDVD_002-1.jpg (http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa95/UnderAlienControl/PDVD_002-1.jpg)

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Haha, instant classic JACKFACE...

LorentzGroup
05-16-2008, 09:50 PM
That actually looks more like 2 light cones (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_cone), which makes things a lot more interesting now because they can be used to explain graphically how Closed Timelike Curves work.
BTW, I am pretty sure that they are responsible for The Doctor being alive and dead at the same time.


Those are forward and past light cones, not wormholes. Daniel's book is filled with stuff the producers copied out of intro special relativity books.

The "rabbit" drawing some people are talking about in another thread looks like a Feynman diagram.

heppamies
05-24-2008, 08:53 AM
I think that picture looks like a sausage