I called it first in last week's show forum! Well, someone else came up with the part about the remote detonator being tied to Keamy's lifeline.
More than just a chance for me to gloat, I think this will play out with dire consequences in the show.

I have a feeling this could account for how Jin ends up dying.
Anyone else have this feeling?

I called it first in last week's show forum! Well, someone else came up with the part about the remote detonator being tied to Keamy's lifeline.
More than just a chance for me to gloat, I think this will play out with dire consequences in the show.

I have a feeling this could account for how Jin ends up dying.
Anyone else have this feeling?
Wow. A lot of people called it, and called it "first." Neat. Also, we don't know if Jin's dead.

LOL, dude, I think alot of people thought this, me included!!! Yes, it is nice to gloat once in awhile, isn't it? I'm just so glad I got this one right. I'm telling ya, most of the answers to the mysteries are KISS situations....I've been burned by way too many elaborate complex theories before. Kudos to all of us who called this one!:woohoo:

NICE Beema. Some had thought it was a dead mans switch, but we were all wondering what it was a switch too.....

I had that same feeling about Jin dying, especially when they showed Sun as she walked down the freighter...

Yeah definitely some people are pleased to be right. Good call for those who figured it out.
We still don't know for sure if Jin dies. Even if Sun thinks he dies, it doesn't mean that he does for sure.

I just wrote in another thread that Michael can't die because he hasn't been redeemed. But maybe he'll die on the boat with the explosives and help everyone else survive. That would be redemption.

Yeah, I think this conclusion was the general consensus.

But good to have confirmation! Should be very interesting how it all plays out.

Yeah definitely some people are pleased to be right. Good call for those who figured it out.
We still don't know for sure if Jin dies. Even if Sun thinks he dies, it doesn't mean that he does for sure.

I just wrote in another thread that Michael can't die because he hasn't been redeemed. But maybe he'll die on the boat with the explosives and help everyone else survive. That would be redemption.

Good call on Michael, I too think that would be redemption.

As for Jin, I think he does die because when Sun was talking to her father, in a flurry of emotion she blames him for Jin's death. This doesn't seem like a situation where she'd keep up with the big lie of Jin being dead, she would've only said this if he was really dead I think.

As for me being the first, well, I just was happy to finally be the one who was right about something. You can look up my post time if it needs proving, but I don't care that much. Just glad my theory panned out... feels nice
lol

Maybe Ben will cut Keamy's arm off. That would solve part of the problem.:rolleyes:

That was the MOAB-and Michael thought he had a bomb. Looks kinda puny now, don't it? That one tonight was alot of boom man!! (<>..<>)

Maybe Ben will cut Keamy's arm off. That would solve part of the problem.:rolleyes:

Well I have a feeling that if the line from the device to Keamy's heart (or whatever it's monitoring) is cut, then that would detonate it as well.

Ben's got something up his sleeve for sure... aside from being a human punching bag again, that is

So obviously if Keamy is willing to blow up the boat that must mean he is confident he won't be stuck on the island. I don't know how far the helicopter would take them so does Keamy know there is another way off the island, via the Orchid perhaps? If Widmore is after what's inside he must know what it does.

So obviously if Keamy is willing to blow up the boat that must mean he is confident he won't be stuck on the island.

Not sure if I would go that far. I mean, if the device detonates the explosives, we are assuming that would mean Keamy is dead anyways, and therefore wouldn't need to get off the island.

The fact that he's willing to do it... well... we've already seen what a psychopath he is.

Maybe with Jack and Sawyer going after Hurley, Lapidus will go back to the boat. He has to save Desmond... darn it. I've seen two posts saying Jin is dead. We have no knowledge of this at all. Just the Oceanic 6 cover story.

I'm not sure why blowing the boat up is something that would concern Ben. How could Keamy use it to prevent being killed or leaving with Ben. There is something going on there I think.


D/

Maybe Ben will cut Keamy's arm off. That would solve part of the problem.:rolleyes:
Nooooooooo....those arms need to stay on Keamy. ;)

And I think that everything Keamy needs to know was in that Secondary Protocol
notebook that he accessed with the 2 keys, and read thoroughly. That is, unless Ben's people added technology (or whatever) to the Orchid station after Widmore owned The Island.

Maybe with Jack and Sawyer going after Hurley, Lapidus will go back to the boat. He has to save Desmond... darn it. I've seen two posts saying Jin is dead. We have no knowledge of this at all. Just the Oceanic 6 cover story.

I'm not sure why blowing the boat up is something that would concern Ben. How could Keamy use it to prevent being killed or leaving with Ben. There is something going on there I think.


D/

Maybe it wouldn't concern Ben, but it sure as hell would concern any one of the Losties, who at this point in the show, are way more likely to be the ones to kill Keamy, since Ben isn't allowed to have weapons and is in Keamy's captivity now. It makes sense to me.

As for Jin, all the proof I need has been in Sun's emotional reactions in the argument with her father and at Jin's grave.

Perhaps the Orchid Station is a place where you can be
somehow removed from the island. Transcending time
and space somehow. If so Keamy could be destroying
the freighter knowing that he is able to still get off.

Perhaps the Orchid Station is a place where you can be
somehow removed from the island. Transcending time
and space somehow. If so Keamy could be destroying
the freighter knowing that he is able to still get off.
Shall we pray... ;)

Recall that Daniel was rather urgent when he told Charlotte that they have to get off
this Island right now.

And Christian, speaking for Jacob, told Locke that he needs to move The Island.

As many have speculated, maybe that means to move the Island to another Time.

It sounds to me like the Secondary Protocol has instructions for Keamy&squad to
grab Ben and bring him off-Island to Widmore, along with taking control of The Island
and making it inaccessible to anyone but Widmore.

I think Keamy is going to blow up the freighter and take Ben (and probably his squad)
to Widmore.

Won't any signal sent from the detonation device be subject to the same bizarre laws of time and space that cause the delays and inconsistencies. In other words, just because it is detonated doesn't necessarily mean that the boat will explode immediately...just a thought.

Won't any signal sent from the detonation device be subject to the same bizarre laws of time and space that cause the delays and inconsistencies. In other words, just because it is detonated doesn't necessarily mean that the boat will explode immediately...just a thought.

Good point, hadn't thought of that.
So maybe they will be able to warn people on the boat before it explodes if the device is activated.

although... they are able to talk to people on the freighter in real time using various sat/com devices. Since their communication seems to be completely unaffected by the time delay, it's realistic to assume Keamy's remote detonator would probably work on some similar sort of technology and therefore also be unaffected. Or this could just be a gaping hole in the pseudo-science of this show... lol

Could Keamy then be the second person Sun holds responsible for Jin's death?

Could Keamy then be the second person Sun holds responsible for Jin's death?

Since Sun is already on the freighter at this point and has no idea who Keamy is, I strongly doubt it. Even then it would technically be Widmore to blame.

Well, even though it seems very likely. I don't think it was actually confirmed that the C4 was connected to Keamy's device. :shrug: Just saying...

It was confirmed in the episode that there was a "strong" RF signal coming from somewhere on the ship and we see the transmitter when they find the bomb, so it's a pretty safe assumption that it is tied to Keamy's device.

I just wrote in another thread that Michael can't die because he hasn't been redeemed. But maybe he'll die on the boat with the explosives and help everyone else survive. That would be redemption.

If I were judge and jury, I would say that just by him being on the boat and now, facing those he betrayed, that he has reached his redemption.

In other words, his intentions and actions to go through all this, is a type of redemption. Whether or not everyone gets off the Island or not, is not within his power. So technically, he is not responsible for that.

As far as Keamy being tied to the boat, I think that is a real possibility. And I think the captain realized that before he was shot. At least we know it now.

Since Sun is already on the freighter at this point and has no idea who Keamy is, I strongly doubt it. Even then it would technically be Widmore to blame.

Assuming she does believe him to be dead and isn't lying I think she blames Charles Widmore for it. It sounds poetic to blame Paik and Widmore since they are two powerful men who in a sense have been controlling their lives both on and off the island.

I think killing Michael now would make his whole return pointless.

Assumption being the key word.

2 people responsible for Jin's death:

1) Paik
2) Whoever killed Keamy.

I called it first in last week's show forum! Well, someone else came up with the part about the remote detonator being tied to Keamy's lifeline.
More than just a chance for me to gloat, I think this will play out with dire consequences in the show.

I have a feeling this could account for how Jin ends up dying.
Anyone else have this feeling?

I don't think we'll get that answer this season. I think that one of the final scenes we will see this year will be the chopper carrying Jack, Kate, Hurley, Sayid and Sawyer to the chopper, and when they get there Desmond/Jin tells them the ship is about to blow, so Sawyer gives his seat to Sun and Aaron, and as the chopper lift off the freighter deck, we see the ship go KABLOOEY...................LOST.

To be honest though it was kinda obvious what it was, i straight away thought bomb when i saw it in last weeks ep

To be honest though it was kinda obvious what it was, i straight away thought bomb when i saw it in last weeks epI don't know, man. I think that thing on his chest is more important than anyone has mentioned. :shrug:

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Keamy is a devious bast**d for making himself a life insurance policy with the C4.

How about this scenario?

Locke moves the island and it ends up under the freighter, landlocking it the same way as the Black Rock.

haha love that idea, although they wont have moved it very far from the freighter they're supposedly moving the island from!