I found the Oceanic press conference with Ms. Decker fascinating . . . so many lies!

Our Oceanic Six were found on a raft, after drifting in a current to the uncharted island of Membata?

At the Oceanic press conference Michelle Forbes said:

"Based on the location of the wreckage, our best estimate of the crash site is here. From there the survivors were carried by the ocean's current to here... an uninhabited Island in the lesser Sunda Islands, known as Membata.

As you've all read in your briefing books, on day 103 a typhoon washed up the remains of an Indonesian fishing boat, including basic supplies and a survival raft. On day 108, the remaining 6 survivors, including Miss Austin's baby, which she gave birth to on the Island of Membata, used this raft to journey here... an Island called Sumba.

They then came ashore near a villiage called Manukangga. This photo was taken by the local fishermen that found them. Once it was discovered who they were they were transported to Honolulu by the US Coast Guard."

Now I'm wondering if there might be some truth in that - I don't think the freighter is going to make it - maybe the Zodiac boat is what they really did escape to the island in the news conference. Of course then I don't know why they would have to keep things secret...

It's bizarre. I think that picture must be real -- that the copter lands in the water near there and they come ashore? The lies were a bit much. It's not surprising that the journalists were incredulous...

This is what perplexed me most about the situation.

It's clear that they formulated this lie long before arriving back home. Did someone put them up to it or did they decide to do it for their own reasons?

If someone put them up to it, who would it be? It wouldn't make sense for Oceanic to do so -- none of what happened on the island would be their fault.

I think that perhaps they (the losties) concocted the lie on their own in order to protect the island and then told it to the Oceanic people as the official story. This begs the question, do they now consider the protection of the island more important than the rescuing of the rest of their friends?

They also lied about Kate being pregnant and giving birth on the island.

The whole press conference had a creepy feel to it.

I've got to believe that Widmore is somehow behind Oceanic and thusly the lie as well.

It seems to me that Oceanic is also perpetuating it's own set of lies . . . at the directive of who? Widmore?

Or Ben....



I think the Losties lie so that Widmore cannot find the Island again after it is moved--whether in time or physically (but I guess moving it in time would do both because of plate tectonics).

Yeah it's certainly possible that Ben is somehow fronting them off-island as well. But so far the only interaction with the 06 that he's had is with Sayid. So many questions abound?!

The press conference was amazing to watch, I couldn't believe the amount of lies they were feeding the public. Something major has had to happen for them to come up with such a bogus story.

Why do the O6 have to lie about the rest of the survivors? Jack say's that they HAVE to stick to their story's. I know we've known they do lie about their rescue but my question is WHY do they have to? to protect the island, their friends, them selves and from who. (it seems that the cat is out of the bag, so I don't think Windmore is the greatest threat anymore, plus he already has people on the island so would they really lie to keep the island a secret from him?)

What are your theory's?

Totally unclear as of yet. I don't think we'll know until we see the moment when they are finally leaving the island on that helicopter. I can't imagine that Kate, Hurley, Sayid and Sun are all just going to follow along with the lie because Jack says so. There has to be a reason related to Oceanic/Widmore/whatever.

We shall see!

That is the $4,815,162,342 question. I doubt we'll know till next season.

Cardie

Any screencaps of that picture of the O6 at the fishing village?

Part of the mystery of LOST. Keep us hanging. I'm hoping that there are more survivors than just the six that got back. Hoping that there are some people left on the island.
Like what about Locke, Sawyer, Claire? I'm also hoping there is a chance that maybe Jin is still alive although we may find he dies next week.

I think it's two-fold: 1) They don't want Widmore to find the Island - because he will kill them, 2) And to ensure them not telling they are almost holding the Losties Left Behind hostage. They will kill them anyway if the O6 talk.

They have to lie because of Widmore's power is my guess.

I wonder if anyone will see security cam images from before the flight, and notice that they were wearing different clothes when they got off the raft? :o

The lie isn't Oceanic's, as far as the world is concerned they came ashore and were discovered by fishermen, as the story goes. However they get off the island it seems like they are dropped off shore and come in to complete the story.

They might well be wearing different clothes, it's reasonable for them to say they found clothes in the wreckage of the fishing boat.

their clothing is of no significance.
You don't think they would've changed out of their tattered grungy island clothes after being discovered and rescued? I'm sure whatever authorities picked them up along with Oceanic got them new clothes and they were able to do other things, like eat and rest and shower before getting on the plane that took them back the US.

The lie isn't Oceanic's, as far as the world is concerned they came ashore and were discovered by fishermen, as the story goes. However they get off the island it seems like they are dropped off shore and come in to complete the story.

They might well be wearing different clothes, it's reasonable for them to say they found clothes in the wreckage of the fishing boat.

Well we don't know for sure yet who made up the lie, whether it was Oceanic, Ben, Widmore, the 06, etc.....

Since it was an Oceanic press conference and an Oceanic briefing that detailed the story that was given out, it would seem logical to say it's Oceanic's lie until we know otherwise. ;)

Since it was an Oceanic press conference and an Oceanic briefing that detailed the story that was given out, it would seem logical to say it's Oceanic's lie until we know otherwise. ;)

I disagree, we saw the Oceanic woman talk to them on the plane and there was no hint of conspiracy, telling them to keep their stories straight etc. They only talked about that when she was gone. Oceanic have no significant role in the mythology of the Lost universe when it comes to the island and these massive conspiracies and 'games' that seem to be going on between Ben and Widmore.

I'd say the assumption has to be that Oceanic know no more than that those 6 appeared on the beach after taking the fish boat's raft from their island and were rescued. Of course Oceanic are going to take charge of the survivors once they're found, giving the press conference etc, but there's no hint they know anything about the truth.

I disagree, we saw the Oceanic woman talk to them on the plane and there was no hint of conspiracy, telling them to keep their stories straight etc. They only talked about that when she was gone. Oceanic have no significant role in the mythology of the Lost universe when it comes to the island and these massive conspiracies and 'games' that seem to be going on between Ben and Widmore.

I'd say the assumption has to be that Oceanic know no more than that those 6 appeared on the beach after taking the fish boat's raft from their island and were rescued. Of course Oceanic are going to take charge of the survivors once they're found, giving the press conference etc, but there's no hint they know anything about the truth.

I don't think they do either. If they were behind any of this they would have controlled everything going on at that press conference, including everything that the O6 said. They probably wouldn't even have let them answer questions.

their clothing is of no significance.
You don't think they would've changed out of their tattered grungy island clothes after being discovered and rescued? I'm sure whatever authorities picked them up along with Oceanic got them new clothes and they were able to do other things, like eat and rest and shower before getting on the plane that took them back the US.


You misread, I was talking about the photo of them coming off of the raft that the fisherman took. That would have been before the authorities got to them.

I don't think they do either. If they were behind any of this they would have controlled everything going on at that press conference, including everything that the O6 said. They probably wouldn't even have let them answer questions.

The worst way to cover something up would be to prevent the 06 from talking to the press. Right now there's no evidence who is behind the lie...

Who would believe there is an Island that no one can see with a smoke monster, and assorted strange things going on. Then there is that plane at the bottom of the ocean with all but eight survivors who escaped. Or maybe its because....

The whole thing was very unsettling. :(

I really really hope we find out the answer this season. I doubt we will though.

Did I miss something? Off the coast of Sumba? If it's south of there, it's still the Indian Ocean. If it's north of there, calling it the Pacific would be pushing it. And in either case it's thousands of miles in wrong direction anyway. Why won't they address this?

I think that a large part of the public story is probably true...

My best guess is that that the O6 get off the island... Jack, Kate, Sayid, Hurley in the helicopter, and Sun and Aaron in the raft... and then maybe hit shore on a tiny uninhabited island off the coast of Sumba... etc... that could all plausibly be true, I should think.

As for why they are lying about the crash and the Island, I think that 's because they want to protect those still on the island... and also because... who would beleive them anyway? Everyone believes the fake 815 wreckage is the real deal, and that fits in with their story... plus nobody is going to beleive a crazy "magic island* story.. epecially if it has moved. :)

I think the information about how and where they washed ashore to be totally accurate.... yes, that is way far away from where the island is now... but it might not be far away from where the island will be once it is moved... as for why the on-island story is different, who knows at this point... I guess we will see...

I think that a large part of the public story is probably true...

My best guess is that that the O6 get off the island... Jack, Kate, Sayid, Hurley in the helicopter, and Sun and Aaron in the raft... and then maybe hit shore on a tiny uninhabited island off the coast of Sumba... etc... that could all plausibly be true, I should think.

As for why they are lying about the crash and the Island, I think that 's because they want to protect those still on the island... and also because... who would beleive them anyway? Everyone believes the fake 815 wreckage is the real deal, and that fits in with their story... plus nobody is going to beleive a crazy "magic island* story.. epecially if it has moved. :)


One thing though is that Jack's orders to the rest of the O6 tell me that they were told to lie by someone, wether that someone is ben I don't know. Truthfully why wouldn't you want to send ships back to the island to rescue your friends who have been traped there for over a 100 day's. (this is not taking into account the whole moving the island thing though.) To me it seems that they were told to go on with their lives, and to forget about the island and they did, which is completely oppisite of what I would have done, unless I was protectining someone.

I have to watch it again to see how much time has passed, but that would be some story to make up and memorize on the fly. Maybe that's why the PR rep did all of the talking / spinning?

Seems like the Witness Protection Program where they have detialed story in their back pocket. Seems like a story Ben would have told them to say.

I found the Oceanic press conference with Ms. Decker fascinating . . . so many lies!

Our Oceanic Six were found on a raft, after drifting in a current to the uncharted island of Membata?

I don't think Oceanic made it up. I think the O6 were given the story by someone else. I think they were dropped near Sumba in a raft with a story and told to follow the script or there'd be hell to pay.

here is my theory on the lie and the direction the next two seasons will take...

i think everyone (or at least 90% of the people) on the island will die before they get off the island. before they leave they will figure out that the island is capable of sending people through time much the same way desmond was slipping through time. they will spend the next season getting back to the island and in next seasons final episode they will all "slip" back to the first episode of the series. season 6 would then be a reliving of the first season except they make all the right choices and save everyone.

of course i am probably completely wrong. but i think it would be a unique way to end the show.