Greenhouses (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenhouse) are sometimes covered by a dome or semispherical structure as ceiling. Could the Snowglobe be an analogy for that?

It is my belief (for now) that what Locke is gonna do is not move the island, but rotate the Snowglobe around the island's greenhouse.

I posted this explanation in another thread this morning:


The island is not gonna move, what's gonna be moved is the 'snowglobe'. Actually, like you said, it's gonna be rotated on its axis.
Imagine the snowglobe as being a really 'thick' membrane surrounding the whole island. Both sides of this membrane can be rotated individually. To get a better picture, imagine the island as being inside a huge hollow sphere, then this sphere is inside a bigger sphere. The surfaces of the spheres act as the sides of this 'membrane'. The space in between is the membrane or snowglobe itself. Now imagine drilling a hole on each sphere...

Got it?

Right now, both spheres are locked in a certain position that makes their 'holes' to be aligned with each other, therefore, allowing access to the Island, as long as a person uses the bearing on which these 'holes' are 'currently' located on.

What Locke and Ben are probably gonna do is rotate one or both spheres, destroying the hole alignment. This will make the island, virtually, impossible to 'find', even if its geographical position is the same.



Now, Ben said that there might be very dangerous and unpredictable side effects from using the Orchid as a way of 'moving' the island, right?

Well, could that be because, by rotating the Snowglobe, the whole ecosystem inside of it might change?
I mean, the island's climate might be compromised....

Think about it, The whole purpose of a Greenhouse is to create a warm environment for plants to grow. This is achieved by trapping, guess what?, ELECTROMAGNETIC RADIATION!!!!
So perhaps, by changing the alignment of the concentric spheres (according to my theory above), the weather on the island will be dramatically affected.
This might explain why Ben was wearing a winter jacket. The island is gonna become a very very COLD PLACE.
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Check this out:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eden_Project

Oh !!! Watch out for those Greenhouse Gases!!!

Wow... Like a lot of theories floating around out there, there's really no basis in what we've seen in the show to suggest that this theory is more accurate than any other out there.... But man.... *whew* wow.... I really gotta hand it to you for creativity on this one!:)

Greenhouses (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenhouse) are sometimes covered by a dome or semispherical structure as ceiling. Could the Snowglobe be an analogy for that?

It is my belief (for now) that what Locke is gonna do is not move the island, but rotate the Snowglobe around the island's greenhouse.

:sorcerer:Something like :kaioken: this, you mean?:super1:
:happy_bounce::a075::cheeky-smiley-022::e028::peek::e010::wallbash::a075::flower:


Okay, I know I've already exceeded my weekly allotment of puns, but here's one that may be relevant: perhaps naming this station the Orchid is a clue from TPTB that the greenhouse/portal is designed to act as a sort of hidden Noah's Ark? (An "ark, hid"!)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eden_Project


That link brings to mind the classic sci-fi/psych-eco-drama Silent Running -- I would strongly suggest it as an appropriate fill-in choice for next week's LOST-less Thursday night!. (And thanks to Locke's earlier destruction of the submarine, there's no danger of confusing the 1972 Doug Trumbull/Michael Cimino/Bruce Dern cinematic opus with 1958's Clark Gable/Burt Lancaster/Don Rickles epic Run Silent, Run Deep!)

- mnw


BTW: Fie, what's your take on the so-called "crater" in the earth
around Ben in his Dharma-jacketed desert appearance of yore?

:jump1:
Assuming his starting point was the Orchid: a) what led him to end
up airborne, b) how far do you think he fell, and c) why didn't he think
to prepare for the possible drop as he had for the extreme climates?

:thud:

Okay, I know I've already exceeded my weekly allotment of puns, but here's one that may be relevant: perhaps naming this station the Orchid is a clue from TPTB that the greenhouse/portal is designed to act as a sort of hidden Noah's Ark? (An "ark, hid"!)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eden_Project


That link brings to mind the classic sci-fi/psych-eco-drama Silent Running -- I would strongly suggest it as an appropriate fill-in choice for next week's LOST-less Thursday night!. (And thanks to Locke's earlier destruction of the submarine, there's no danger of confusing the 1972 Doug Trumbull/Michael Cimino/Bruce Dern cinematic opus with 1958's Clark Gable/Burt Lancaster/Don Rickles epic Run Silent, Run Deep!)

- mnw


BTW: Fie, what's your take on the so-called "crater" in the earth
around Ben in his Dharma-jacketed desert appearance of yore?

:jump1:

Assuming his starting point was the Orchid: a) what led him to end

up airborne, b) how far do you think he fell, and c) why didn't he think
to prepare for the possible drop as he had for the extreme climates?

:thud:

LOL
Another good way to picture my concept is by imagining these concentric spheres as part of a gigantic Spherical Gyroscope (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyroscope)

As far as the 'Noa's Ark' part, you are ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. That is exactly what the island is for. It's the last shelter for humanity.


This theory could explain why Ben was wearing a Dharma coat and seemed to have come from a cold climate, but as far as why he seemed to have been 'teleported' to that desert, I am not sure what else The Orchid might be capable of.;)

Also, if this theory of needing to align the holes (portals, wormholes mouths) on the concentric spheres in order to come to or leave the island is correct, if they are gonna destroy this alignment, that would mean that no one would be able to leave the island just as much as no one would be able to get to the island anymore. Now, if Ben doesn't want to restore this alignment again in order to leave for certain missions (like finding Sayid), I see no other alternative for him that to use 'non' coventional means of transport to get to the desert.....;)

Check this cool video:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=mhf8GM-kbck&feature=related

Now, substitute the rings for spheres!
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Wow... Like a lot of theories floating around out there, there's really no basis in what we've seen in the show to suggest that this theory is more accurate than any other out there.... But man.... *whew* wow.... I really gotta hand it to you for creativity on this one!:)

Well, we know that there is some kind of boundary around the island. Des called it a snowglobe... I said, hey! Why can't there be TWO of them?

I like this idea, although I still think the Island itself will move to another (probably Arctic) location. I've always thought that the Island is covered in a barrier designed to maintain a tropical climate regardless of its location-but what if that barrier has been comprimised? If the Island moves to another location where the climate is differant, that could be a real shock to the ole system.

Take a look at this picture, it shows like the tunnel that's created when two of these holes on the snowglobes are aligned...
Wormhole, anyone?

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa95/UnderAlienControl/PDVD_002-1.jpg

The white things would be the membranes. I like to call the black space in between, 'The Void'. This 'empty' space is full of the Eloise EM radiation. However, when the portals on both membranes are aligned, a Flux Tunnel (wormhole?) is created, allowing people to get on and off the island, safely, since the Eloise Radiation is cancelled out inside this tunnel. Right now, there are two flux tunnels aligned: one is located on the 305 bearing, and the other one, on 325.

By rotating any of the membranes, such alignment will be lost. But, if both membranes are rotated in such a way that they become locked in again, the bearings on which the Flux Tunnels are located, will be changed.

Now, for a person outside the snowglobe, unless they know WHERE these entrances are located after the rotation, it would be practically impossible for them to find the way in, again.
The only way to know which are the correct bearings would be if any EM radiation is leaked through these Flux Tunnels.
That way, the entrance to the island would flash like flare in the middle of the night...
That is what Jack's call did for the freighter people. That is also why Ben wanted all outgoing radiosignals blocked....Except for the ones they were using, possibly on very specific non common frequencies...
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I just made a new discovery (at least for me) that might help support this theory:



Spherical and Stable:
Although they are generally referred to as “gateways” or “portals” wormholes are in fact nothing like the picture of simple two-dimensional doorways that such terms invoke. Rather they are complex spherical structures that connect widely separated points in space-time. While non-spherical gateways are theoretically possible, the engineering and practical difficulties of such structures are huge. As yet, no credible reports of non-spherical wormholes have been made, although rumors that such structures have been produced by the archai or discovered in some remote region of space continue to persist.


Multi-Layered Internal Structure:
All known types of wormhole possess a similar internal structure, but this structure is most obvious in a transport gate. Passage through a wormhole from mouth to throat is passage through a series of increasingly smaller spheres; the minimum radius sphere is at the throat.
The structure of a wormhole can be seen in the graphic below. Modern wormholes are consistently 327 Astronomical Units (A.U.s) in radius from the region of flat-space to the wormhole mouth.


As you can probably see (if you have very very very good vision) in my own avatar, the Island might rest inside the wormhole itself, in the throat actually. You can see a bigger version here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wormhole. Of course, this is also supported by the 'casimir effect' that the island seems to have....

Now, we could try to combine both ideas...

Let's put the island inside a ROTATING SPHERICAL WORMHOLE.

Check the graphic right here: (scroll down a little bit)


http://www.orionsarm.com/tech/Wormhole_Guide.html

In that picture, the island would be right there inside the Throat. The 'caustic' would be a very thin layer of Negative Energy creating the Casimir Effect necessary to hold the Wormhole Mouth open. Now, the two bigger spheres around the throat would be the 2 concentric 'snowglobes' I theorize about.
Somehow they can be individually rotated. Dharma might have built some support or structure which can only allow vessels to 'penetrate' the different regions of the wormhole if these spheres are locked in in the right position.