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divinesynder
05-16-2008, 01:11 AM
I wonder why they waited so long before they decided to prosecute Kate for her previous crimes. Aaron is being passed off as five months when they return. Kate is seen going to Christian's funeral and then Hurley's birthday party. Then her trial sets in and she's realsed with her sentence and Aaron is two years old and has an accent.

Why does Aaron sound Austrailian when we see him in Eggtown. It's obvious Claire hadn't been with him since he was two months old.

LostLaura
05-16-2008, 01:13 AM
I don't think he sounded Australian.

Trials can take awhile. Possibly extra complicated since they thought she was dead, and now she's back and has a child, and is a celebrity and has all this settlement $... I'm sure it just took a long time to be sorted out.

lostnthesoutheast
05-16-2008, 01:17 AM
Well, nothing about that trial made sense. I'm not sure how or if we are supposed to be able to make heads or tails out of any of it. Why did it take so long for her to be prosecuted? Why was it in L.A. when none of the crimes she committed took place in CA? How in the world could she get off so easily? None of it made sense.

And as for Aaron's accent. He's a toddler. Kids have their own accent at that age. My son sounds Asian and my middle child sounds like she's from Long Island, NY even though she's never left the south. Who knows were they get that stuff from. But their speeach patterns are still developing.

Aversion
05-16-2008, 01:25 AM
Trials can take years. Considering how old Aaron is in the episode with the trial I'd say they expedited things because of her new status.

toddintexas
05-16-2008, 01:32 AM
I wonder why they waited so long before they decided to prosecute Kate for her previous crimes. Aaron is being passed off as five months when they return. Kate is seen going to Christian's funeral and then Hurley's birthday party. Then her trial sets in and she's realsed with her sentence and Aaron is two years old and has an accent.

Why does Aaron sound Austrailian when we see him in Eggtown. It's obvious Claire hadn't been with him since he was two months old.

Actually Aaron is being passed off as 5 WEEKS, not 5 months when they return. Don't know if that was a typo or not, but I just wanted to clarify.

I also didn't think Aaron had any type of accent, Australian or otherwise, but some of our international posters may think he does.;)

Cardielost
05-16-2008, 01:33 AM
Kate says at the press conference that Aaron is five and a half weeks old, not five and a half months (although the baby playing him looks about six months old.)

Cardie

Selene1212
05-16-2008, 03:01 AM
Kate says at the press conference that Aaron is five and a half weeks old, not five and a half months (although the baby playing him looks about six months old.)

CardieYeah, biggest newborn EVER!! :biggrin:

Felaries65
05-16-2008, 03:27 AM
I don't think he sounded Australian.

Trials can take awhile. Possibly extra complicated since they thought she was dead, and now she's back and has a child, and is a celebrity and has all this settlement $... I'm sure it just took a long time to be sorted out.


That does not make any sense. Kate should have been hustled off to jail the moment she touched foot on U.S. soil . . . baby or not. At least until after the press conference. Instead, she's going to Hurley's birthday party and Christian's funeral. WTF?

Everything they have done with Kate's character back in the States has been off.

Donatien
05-16-2008, 03:34 AM
It could be that because of her lawyer she was allowed to remain free on bail until the trial. As a fugitive it is unlikely any judge would allow it but her attorney could use her celebrity as a reason she wouldn't be able to skip bail. It could also be why her trial was moved to L.A. She is a worldwide celebrity. It would be hard to find an impartial jury where the initial crime was committed. Instead, her lawyer could argue that L.A. makes more sense as a venue because it's a federal trial so she can be tried anywhere and L.A. is easier since that is already where she is and a local jury may be less invested in her personally.

quizzical
05-16-2008, 03:39 AM
It could be that because of her lawyer she was allowed to remain free on bail until the trial. As a fugitive it is unlikely any judge would allow it but her attorney could use her celebrity as a reason she wouldn't be able to skip bail. It could also be why her trial was moved to L.A. She is a worldwide celebrity. It would be hard to find an impartial jury where the initial crime was committed. Instead, her lawyer could argue that L.A. makes more sense as a venue because it's a federal trial so she can be tried anywhere and L.A. is easier since that is already where she is and a local jury may be less invested in her personally.

I dropped in to make the point about bail. But while I'm here, I'd just like to say that I live in LA - if there's one thing our juries are swayed by, it is personality. :biggrin:

Felaries65
05-16-2008, 03:40 AM
It could be that because of her lawyer she was allowed to remain free on bail until the trial. As a fugitive it is unlikely any judge would allow it but her attorney could use her celebrity as a reason she wouldn't be able to skip bail.


It's not like Kate is an entertainer or something. She's only a celebrity . . .

You know what? Nothing about this woman's story make any sense. I can't believe that anyone would accept that she was so far gone in pregnancy at the time when the marshal had arrested her in Australia. Any security camera at the airport or some police station could verify how pregnant she was. And she gets to walk around because she was a survivor of Oceanic 815? Sorry . . . not buying it. Her history of fleeing from arrest is too strong for that.



I dropped in to make the point about bail. But while I'm here, I'd just like to say that I live in LA - if there's one thing our juries are swayed by, it is personality. :biggrin:


I also live in the L.A. area. I'm not that swayed by personality. To me, Kate's off island story is simply badly written, so that the producers can allow her to stay out of jail.

Donatien
05-16-2008, 03:47 AM
It's not like Kate is an entertainer or something. She's only a celebrity . . .

You know what? Nothing about this woman's story make any sense. I can't believe that anyone would accept that she was so far gone in pregnancy at the time when the marshal had arrested her in Australia. Any security camera at the airport or some police station could verify how pregnant she was. And she gets to walk around because she was a survivor of Oceanic 815? Sorry . . . not buying it. Her history of fleeing from arrest is too strong for that.




I also live in the L.A. area. I'm not that swayed by personality. To me, Kate's off island story is simply badly written, so that the producers can allow her to stay out of jail.


I agree that it is far-fetched that she would be let out on bail, but I've seen more far-fetched things in real life when it comes to trials. I'm looking at you O.J.!!!:mad:

As to the pregnancy, at 6 months you might not be able to tell. Some women just don't show that much until the very end. My wife was worried that she wasn't showing very much until 7 months when all the other pregnant ladies around her were getting giant beach balls under their shirt. Our doctor assured us that it was normal.

Exile236
05-16-2008, 03:59 AM
I agree that it is far-fetched that she would be let out on bail, but I've seen more far-fetched things in real life when it comes to trials. I'm looking at you O.J.!!!:mad:

As to the pregnancy, at 6 months you might not be able to tell. Some women just don't show that much until the very end. My wife was worried that she wasn't showing very much until 7 months when all the other pregnant ladies around her were getting giant beach balls under their shirt. Our doctor assured us that it was normal.

:hesaid: Yep, also my Mom only gained 25lbs when she had me and I was full-term and popped out at 8lbs 7oz. Not all women get Claire size.

toddintexas
05-16-2008, 12:47 PM
I agree that it is far-fetched that she would be let out on bail, but I've seen more far-fetched things in real life when it comes to trials. I'm looking at you O.J.!!!:mad:

As to the pregnancy, at 6 months you might not be able to tell. Some women just don't show that much until the very end. My wife was worried that she wasn't showing very much until 7 months when all the other pregnant ladies around her were getting giant beach balls under their shirt. Our doctor assured us that it was normal.

Dude, you can tell the naysayers this until you are blue in the face and they just don't wanna buy it. Back during Eggtown, there was a thread on this, with many posts about women not gaining much weight during pregnancy (my sister only gained 5 pounds her whole pregnancy and gave birth to a healthy 7 pounder) and yet it just wasn't being grasped. I know it's possible as I've seen it, but some people just don't want to believe it.

Selene1212
05-16-2008, 12:52 PM
Kate was in custody before the trial. For how long remains to be seen.

PS I LOST 25lbs when I was pregnant with my twins...

Confidence-Man
05-16-2008, 12:56 PM
I wonder why they waited so long before they decided to prosecute Kate for her previous crimes. Aaron is being passed off as five months when they return. Kate is seen going to Christian's funeral and then Hurley's birthday party. Then her trial sets in and she's realsed with her sentence and Aaron is two years old and has an accent.

Why does Aaron sound Austrailian when we see him in Eggtown. It's obvious Claire hadn't been with him since he was two months old.

Trial can take a long time to start. Barry Bonds has been indicted for over a year and still no trial. Furthermore the fact that she has been on an Island for four months probably falls under the fact no compatent to stand trial currently. Lastly Aaron is two, can you have an accent at two?

toddintexas
05-16-2008, 12:59 PM
Kate was in custody before the trial. For how long remains to be seen.

That's what I thought, but I wasn't sure so I never posted on it. I was too lazy this morning to go through my DVR and watch that scene again.

PS I LOST 25lbs when I was pregnant with my twins...

Dang, those babies were kicking your butt!!! When they get older you'll have to remind them of that! ;)

Lostlowkz
05-16-2008, 01:08 PM
Hey guys, this is my first post on this site so please be nice...

I just wanted to point out the fact that, since Kate and the other O6 have been deemed "dead" when they found the wreckage, i believe this is the reason she is not immediately put into police custody. I don't know the precedents on arresting people who have been legally labeled "dead", but I'm guessing there aren't any (if at all). just my 2 cents.

Felaries65
05-16-2008, 01:12 PM
Kate says at the press conference that Aaron is five and a half weeks old, not five and a half months (although the baby playing him looks about six months old.)

Cardie

Then that means that Kate would have to have been in her last trimester when she was arrested in Australia. Something that can be easily proved one way or the other, thanks to video cameras at airports and police stations.

Who wrote this mess?:confused:



Kate was in custody before the trial. For how long remains to be seen.


That was right before her trial. What about when she first returned to the States? She should have been arrested right after the press conference. Chances are she could have received bail. But considering that she was a potential flight risk anyway, she would have remained in jail.

You know, the one thing I can say about Season 4 is that basically it was a pretty solid season . . . except for one thing, namely Lindehof and Cuse's flaky writing of Kate's off island story.

toddintexas
05-16-2008, 01:29 PM
Hey guys, this is my first post on this site so please be nice...

I just wanted to point out the fact that, since Kate and the other O6 have been deemed "dead" when they found the wreckage, i believe this is the reason she is not immediately put into police custody. I don't know the precedents on arresting people who have been legally labeled "dead", but I'm guessing there aren't any (if at all). just my 2 cents.

Good point, and nice first post! If they were declared legally dead, it would probably take awhile to legally declare them alive again. Could explain some of it.

Then that means that Kate would have to have been in her last trimester when she was arrested in Australia. Something that can be easily proved one way or the other, thanks to video cameras at airports and police stations.

Who wrote this mess?:confused:

So by seeing someone with clothes over their belly from a camera placed 10 - 15 feet away at best and if it looks flat that proves she's not pregnant? That seems more far fetched than the story that Kate is pregnant. Kate being pregnant is not that far fetched of a story, people not showing at 6 months preganancy is hardly uncommon. People just need to come to terms that not all women show the notorious "baby bump" as visibly as some do.:rolleyes:

LilMissRabbit
05-16-2008, 01:35 PM
Just read over the threads posted last week where everyone was saying that Locke's mom couldn't possibly be six months pregnant, she was so tiny. If six-month pregnant women can be that skinny, than I don't see any problems with Kate being six months along in Australia.

TimeEnslavedFool
05-16-2008, 02:06 PM
Just read over the threads posted last week where everyone was saying that Locke's mom couldn't possibly be six months pregnant, she was so tiny. If six-month pregnant women can be that skinny, than I don't see any problems with Kate being six months along in Australia.

Yes, indeed. My mother barely showed when she was pregnant with me; this was because her uterus was tipped back, which caused it to press against her spine during the pregnancy (giving her backaches), and not stick out beach-ball-style.