I had this feeling that Sun's father (Paik) was a real player in this ordeal, After tonight and with Sun's proclamation of owning a controlling interest in the family business, I'm kind of wondering now how important he is. Could it be then, with the news of Sun's power, he will become desperate and show his hand in this island thing more than we may know?

With the controlling share, it would definitely give Sun the means to turn up any information that would connect Paik to everything. It wouldn't be hard for her to find it out on her own now, if the connection exists. (And for the record, I'm in agreement, I've always thought Paik had a hand in all of the nastiness too.)

I was never really convinced Paik was behind any of he mysterious goings-on, but lots of other people seemed to think so.

What were any previous connections hinted at in the show that he might've had, besides being a powerful, shady and somewhat diabolical guy.

I was never really convinced Paik was behind any of he mysterious goings-on, but lots of other people seemed to think so.

What were any previous connections hinted at in the show that he might've had, besides being a powerful, shady and somewhat diabolical guy.

None whatsoever. Although some theorists have made the leap from, "Paik is a powerful, shady, and somewhat diabolical guy." to, "Therefore he must be involved in all the Island/DHARMA/Hanso/Widmore/whoever else, etc.etc. conspiracy craziness."

I was never on the Paik as another member of some 3-headed monster, I theorized that Sun would use her father's influence and power to help the 06 get back to the Island. I never dreamed she'd overthrow him to get that power though... so it's always nice to be surprised. :biggrin:

Actually, Paik being introduced as a major player in the larger scope of the island was in the Lost Experience, when Thomas Mittlewerk first mentions Paik's name. I don't remember exactly, but Paik Heavy Industries was named during the ARG, and it was confirmed to be Sun's father's company in one of the episodes where we see it in his office. In addition, I think Paik might have built a ship (might be the Christiane?) in one of the ARGs. My memory is foggy.

In addition, before Sun comes up, Paik is yelling at two business associates. THe conversaiton went something like, "how?" "he had five bank accounts" "WTH! get yoon up here now!". My assumption is that the scene is validating what MIles says Ben is capable of. Maybe Ben is bankrolled by Paik without Paik even knowing?

p.s. I think the "Yoon" was a reference to Sun actually coming up, since her real name is Yoon.

Paik Heavy Industries was involved with the Hanso Foundation working on either one or a number of projects for them.

I believe in the book the Bad Twin Paik Heavy Industries were doing a deal to go into partnership with The Widmore Corporation who were also actively involved in projects with The Hanso Foundation.

I think The Hanso Foundation also had a deal with Paik Motors as well.

Both of which seem to be in regards to building a custom ship, I can't remember the name but it wasn't the Christiane and it was apparently some sort of Medical vessel built to take part in the Spider project they had going on which involved killing a whole bunch of people with a virus.

So, Paik is involved somehow - whether that's just in partnership to build things or whether there deeper involved is still to be seen but I think Sun is going to play a pivotal role in getting information on how to get back to the island.

I suppose there's really never been any concrete proof (on the TV show) connecting Paik to the island. I do recall one scene a while back where there's a TV monitor next to his desk playing footage from what appeared to be the island. That's probably where the thoughts of connections came from.

I almost get the feeling that Sun is working for Ben, but it's just a hunch.

Didn't she tell her dad that he's one of two men responsible for her and Jin being on the island? He could have set it up through his affiliations. What if the other man she's talking about is Widmore?
Also, now that she has a controlling interest, I wonder if she'll use that power to find the island and Jin?

Didn't she tell her dad that he's one of two men responsible for her and Jin being on the island? He could have set it up through his affiliations. What if the other man she's talking about is Widmore?

That was the impression I got.

Keamy had access to The Orchid protocol via Widmore because Widmore was one of the people who funded The DHARMA Initiative, Widmore, Paik & Hanso IIRC.

Well as far as we know about Sun (after rescue) is that she probably sees no reason to find the island again (like Kate). So far it seems only Hurley and Jack have a big time yearning to go back. But i think that will change soon.

I actually think Sun said that he is one of two people responsible for him being on the plane... I was wondering whether the other person was another party (Ben/Widmore) or perhaps more likely, she was also blaming herself. After all, had Jin not married her, he wouldn't have gotten involved with her father. And had she left him at the airport, he most likely would not have flown.

Regardless, it looks as though Sun now has enough money and power behind her that she can hopefully help find the island again when the time comes.

I almost get the feeling that Sun is working for Ben, but it's just a hunch.

i had that same "ah-ha!" moment when she turned into the super power right before our eyes...

oh, and she may have the controlling interest in Paik Industries but i am sure he has his hands in many other things...the look on his face was very telling that he had no idea she would do this. and i don't think she would have, unless someone had "a plan"

I've always thought Widmore contracted Paik Industries to build Dharma.

Also, I thinK the 5 bank accounts used to buy controlling interest in Paik equals the settlement of the 5 adult members of the O6.

I almost get the feeling that Sun is working for Ben, but it's just a hunch.

Very interesting.

I've always thought Widmore contracted Paik Industries to build Dharma.

Also, I thinK the 5 bank accounts used to buy controlling interest in Paik equals the settlement of the 5 adult members of the O6.

Yeah, I didn't think of that but clearly a bunch of people did on the board. Good idea.

I don't know if Paik is irrelevant now. Although he has been connected via Bad Twin and the ARG, it's possible that Darlton are not going to involve him further in the show. But what would be the point of that scene then? Just to show Sun being assertive? No, it's got to be more than that. There is a reaon why she is taking over that company, presumably with the help of the other O6.

Paik Heavy Industries was involved with the Hanso Foundation working on either one or a number of projects for them.

I believe in the book the Bad Twin Paik Heavy Industries were doing a deal to go into partnership with The Widmore Corporation who were also actively involved in projects with The Hanso Foundation.

I think The Hanso Foundation also had a deal with Paik Motors as well.

Both of which seem to be in regards to building a custom ship, I can't remember the name but it wasn't the Christiane and it was apparently some sort of Medical vessel built to take part in the Spider project they had going on which involved killing a whole bunch of people with a virus.

So, Paik is involved somehow - whether that's just in partnership to build things or whether there deeper involved is still to be seen but I think Sun is going to play a pivotal role in getting information on how to get back to the island.

wasn't the dhip the Helgus Antonius or something? I am pretty sure that Lostpedia has something on this.

I SCREAMED when Sun turned the tables on her father! That was the ONE thing in the episode I really wasn't expecting. But it's so like Sun--so sneaky and mysterious and manipulative. Good for her!

It DOES seem like it would take a great deal of money to get 51% of Paik Heavy Industries. And that was way too soon to be the result of a court settlement, so Oceanic must have laid a very, very heavy bribe on the O6. And Sun might have previously had some trust-fund money under her control.

It DOES seem like it would take a great deal of money to get 51% of Paik Heavy Industries.

I could be wrong but, controlling interest in a company only means you have more shares than anybody else. Let's say 20%, while everyone else has no more than 5%.

I could be wrong but, controlling interest in a company only means you have more shares than anybody else. Let's say 20%, while everyone else has no more than 5%.

No, controlling interest is definitely 50%-plus. If you're only the biggest shareholder, they don't HAVE to do what you say. If you have more than half, they do.

(I'm a business writer, so I have to be very careful when writing about mergers and acquisitions.)

No, controlling interest is definitely 50%-plus. If you're only the biggest shareholder, they don't HAVE to do what you say. If you have more than half, they do.

Thanks. I wasn't sure. I stand corrected.

I suppose there's really never been any concrete proof (on the TV show) connecting Paik to the island. I do recall one scene a while back where there's a TV monitor next to his desk playing footage from what appeared to be the island. That's probably where the thoughts of connections came from.

I think in DOC, we see a Paik Heavy Industries logo in Paik's office.

I never thought he was involved, just a shady business man who seemed rather cruel. I can't imagine his total companies total worth was really that vast if she was able to buy a controlling interest with her settlement. I am sure it was generous, but still.....It does seem to me though that this sets Sun up to be a force to be reckoned with- I dare say she will also attempt to get back at the other one of the two people she holds responsible for Jin's death. Hmmm does that mean Jack, Ben, Michael, etc.......

Plus, don't forget the watch that Jin was supposed to deliver. Something fishy was going on where at least Jin was supposed to be on Oceanic 815.

Plus, don't forget the watch that Jin was supposed to deliver. Something fishy was going on where at least Jin was supposed to be on Oceanic 815.

I had totally forgotten about the watch. Dog gone it. Who has the watch now... Sawyer or Micheal? Or maybe even Walt (the wild card in all of this) This could be important.

No, controlling interest is definitely 50%-plus. If you're only the biggest shareholder, they don't HAVE to do what you say. If you have more than half, they do.

(I'm a business writer, so I have to be very careful when writing about mergers and acquisitions.)

Very true, but we don't know if Sun and Jin owned any of the shares before she started the takeover. I wouldn't be surprised if she owned 10% of the company already.

I had totally forgotten about the watch. Dog gone it. Who has the watch now... Sawyer or Micheal? Or maybe even Walt (the wild card in all of this) This could be important.

Michael had the watch, he pawned it for the gun he tried to kill himself with. Or maybe it was a different watch, but it had Korean writing on it.

Its possible that Hurley gave Sun some money from the millions he won, didn't he say he gave all the money away. So I reckon he may of gave Sun the money so she could buy shares over Paik.

Was Paik ever truly relevant in the first place?
He's had what, a minute to a minute and a half of combined screentime over all four seasons?
Even in the "Bad Twin" and the other few tie-ins I've bothered to read, he's barely mentioned, if at all.

I never really thought he was very important either- that he was there more or less to show how Jin and Sun grew apart before the crash.