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afterthegoldrush
05-16-2008, 04:23 AM
It's curious and telling at the same time. Hurley, Jack, Kate and Sayid are the four visible in the picture, the interesting thing is that Kate, Jack and Sayid are all wearing different clothes than what they currently have on now. Hurley, on the other hand, is wearing the same shirt (indicated by the stitching on his right shoulder) that he has had on for the last few episodes. This brings up some questions:

1. The six that got off the island are part of a larger conspiracy by a knowing Oceanic Airlines, possibly returning Kate, Sayid and Jack into clothing that would be appropriate to what they were wearing at the time of the crash (i.e. Why would Sayid be wearing a wifebeater? Jack was on the way to hisf ather's funeral. Kate was being taken away in handcuffs). Jack, Kate and Sayid are all wearing wha tlooks like button up shirts- I would doubt there would be hardly anytime to change in the midst of all that drama.

2. The fact that Hurley is wearing the same shirt can just be that Oceanic, or whatever instituion or force is behind the lie, felt that Hurley's clothing fits accordingly with his style. Or it could point to something completely different concerning the Orchid. From what we know from the Orchid video, we know the station can produce a Kasimir effect; which essentially gives way to the possibility that a replica of an entity can be succeeded in a certain vaccum of space. Perhaps, with what we saw in Desmond and Ben's episode, the Orchid produces a similar effect, but rahter than making doubles, it just can transport a person's consciousness into another state of being in a particular point in time. So maybe Jack, et al experienced this and Hurley didn't?

p.s. I would not be surprised if Oceanic was part of the grander scheme of things. It may be a stretch, but the Oceanic logo is suprisingly similar to the orchids.

PapaThor
05-16-2008, 05:30 AM
I'm gonna look at that again. I know that this season a lot of props have been used over and over again and this photo may be just a "hick-up" from the props dept.

Lost_In_Louisiana
05-16-2008, 07:20 AM
I have brain fog. What photo are you talking about???

LBTN
05-16-2008, 07:26 AM
Hurley is a big guy. It takes time to get a suit made for someone of that size. So rather than have a suit ready for him before the Coast Guard plane takes off, they probably either cleaned his clothes or something of that accord.

Anookanator
05-16-2008, 07:38 AM
I have brain fog. What photo are you talking about???

In the O6 press conference FF tonight, the lady was talking about how they were found and showed a picture of the O6 taking the boat on the shore.

Laurieg
05-16-2008, 07:48 AM
It does look like they were put back in to the cloths they would have been wearing ont he flight. Only Jacks suit was in perfect shape and Aaron was dressed in an outfit. He was born on the island so where did his cloths come from?

We can't even say they got them from the people living on the island. I got the impression suits were not the type of thing the natives on the island would have. Or Aarons cloths for that matter.

So they all get a change of cloths before getting on the plane. Every one but Hurley? Very strange. Considering the people who are behind this. They would have had no problem getting Hurley fresh cloths if they wanted him to have them.

AuntBaboo89
05-16-2008, 10:02 AM
Who owns Oceanic Airlines?

StayinLost
05-16-2008, 10:13 AM
Could Hurley have been a last minute addition to the group? With him being off with Ben and Locke, I could see him arriving at the last minute to whatever point they are at when they get off the island. It would also tie in with his luck a bit.

Claudia815
05-16-2008, 10:18 AM
They were dressed for a classic photo op. Nobody was going to go check what clothes they were wearing when they boarded the plane down to the last detail. Even if somebody did get footage from security cameras for instance, it would just have to be close enough. What matters there is to fool the cameras. It's kinda unecessarily elaborate because the truth, ie that their lugagge floated over to the shore and they had five people with hundreds of suitcases full of clothes at their disposal, works just as well.

The importance of the picture lays in something else: somebody is orchestrating this. The Oceanic Six do not have the means or any possibility to put something like that in motion. Somebody is behind them.

MiniMe
05-16-2008, 10:33 AM
Add to that, who on that island would have a camera? I can't believe we have to wait 2 weeks for the finale to finish. :(

augustwest
05-16-2008, 10:41 AM
or perhaps no one had XXXXL shirts on hand, but the rest are of 'average' size?

Laurieg
05-16-2008, 10:46 AM
or perhaps no one had XXXXL shirts on hand, but the rest are of 'average' size?

See I don't think that is it.
Even though it looks like they came ashore, hopped on a cargo plane and flew in to the military base. There has to be missing time that we haven't been showen yet.

Some where between the island and the plane ride, someone had to tell the to keep their mouths shut. Something had to happen and be said that they all agreed to it.

From what we have seen in this show so far. I am betting that who ever is pulling the strings knew excatally who made it to the island. Their clothing size right down to what color underware they like to wear. Before they were ever put on the plane.

Lost Ed
05-16-2008, 11:03 AM
I either don't understand what I'm reading, or don't see the point.

On the fishermen found them photo, Hurley is in his current island shirt. In the exiting the Coast Guard plane, Hurley has on a blue button up shirt. Wherein is there an issue?

Otherwise, in the fisherman's photo...where is Sun and Aaron??

TheWhiteTempest
05-16-2008, 11:10 AM
Well, since the group was willing to go along with the story that Kate saved everyone, then I'm assuming that they all posed for that photo willingly in exchange for freedom.

Eleri
05-16-2008, 11:29 AM
See I don't think that is it.
Even though it looks like they came ashore, hopped on a cargo plane and flew in to the military base. There has to be missing time that we haven't been showen yet.


It doesn't even have to be sneaky manipulation, really. They got to this island, someone contacted the authorities, those authorities had to contact bigger authorities, who had to contact Oceanic and various governments. Oceanic, at least, would have wanted to grill them before they even got out of Manukangga.

So there's plenty of time for them to have been given new clothes, so they could arrive in Hawaii looking clean. Maybe Hurley didn't want to change, for some reason.

thenumbersare...
05-16-2008, 11:40 AM
i think you're all overthinking this one. if there's a cover-up or major conspiracy - which it seems there likely is - these photos are obviously doctored. so who cares about their clothing, lack of a blood stain (on a portion of his shirt that's not even exposed), why hurley is smiling, etc...

Sam G
05-16-2008, 11:42 AM
The Photo (http://gallery.lost-media.com/displayimage.php?pid=115446&fullsize=1)

Ryan from the Hawaii blog had pictures of the O6 filming on the beach and in the water. They are in the spoiler section.

http://gallery.lost-media.com/displayimage-1405-311.html - they crashed floated to their uncharted island, a freighter crashed there, they get food and a raft and make it to Menbata? Then the Coast Guard is called - the US Coast Guard - probably not their usual patrol and Oceanic is contacted.

I'll have to watch again of wait for the transcript.

Claudia815
05-16-2008, 11:42 AM
That's what I'm saying... it's a photo op. Somebody gave them those clothes, I don't see them carefully orchestrating this before they board the helicopter to leave the Island. The pictures aren't doctored, they're actually wearing them. There are spoiler pictures of the Oceanic Six in those clothes.

balthan
05-16-2008, 11:50 AM
Otherwise, in the fisherman's photo...where is Sun and Aaron??

On the other side of Kate and Sayid. If you look at the legs, you can clearly see at least 5. And the arm opposite Sayid's can't be Kate's.

Presumably Kate or Sun are carrying Aaron.

headmusic
05-16-2008, 12:15 PM
That may be Sun on the other side of Kate. It's impossible to tell. I wonder if you can't see her for a reason. Sun and Aaron are the only ones of the O6 that are nowhere near the others at the end of this episode. She's off on the freighter, while Jack, Kate, Hurley, and Sayid are at, or heading toward, the Orchid. I'm wondering if you can't see Sun because she actually joined them later by some other means. Probably in some way related to the deal that Jin made with Charlotte. But, to back up the story, the picture should be of all of them. So, you could place someone on the other side of Kate, out of view of the camera, and everyone would just assume it's her.

Heroic Poser
05-16-2008, 12:54 PM
I thought the photo may have been a fake, just for the cameras, but really looking at it, ya. They posed for that shot. I think that's why Jack looked at it weird during the interview. Maybe he was thinking how disgusting it was to have to pose for that after all they went through for a lie.

BillToons
05-16-2008, 12:57 PM
a long time ago i started a thread about why are there no cameras on the island? After all, a plane carrying hundreds of people from a place like OZ to LA would certainly have some tourists with cameras on board. Not that the survivors really needed cameras but they could certainly use the batteries back in the beginning. They had cd players, laptop computers, knives, guns and stuff to make those rain-proof burn all night torches but no cameras. Not a single one. Why? Hmmm now we seem to know why. No one wanted photographic evidence of their time on the REAL island but who? Is the Oceanic airlines in on this whole thing? Ben?

Pythagoras99
05-16-2008, 01:44 PM
I don't know if the clothes they're wearing have any significance. HOWEVER, the whole deal with Oceanic being there to orchestrate them flying back, and running the press conference, the fact that Oceanic paid them all some MASSIVE amount of money (not just some couple million, but enough for Sun to buy a controlling interest in Paik Heavy Industies, and for Sayid to travel the world like James bond, playing golf in Seychelles and wearing tuxedos as he assassinates people), and more than that, the way they showed that photo, like "and here's a photo of them coming ashore," as if they're trying to artificially bolster their story, and MOST OF ALL the fact that the O6 are going along with the story that coincides with the real 815 being at the bottom of the Java trench, and with them having been in that area the whole time, tells me that Oceanic, (in concert with whomever) is responsible for that plane getting to the bottom of that trench, and they are the ones that fabricated that whole story, and they perhaps are the ones who ultimately rescued the O6 -- in return for their cooperation in the fabricated story.