UnderAlienControl
05-30-2008, 12:14 AM
The Six Of You is a direct correlation to Stephen King's IT where the childhood friends have to go back to Derry as adults and confront Pennywise/IT. And in that book, one of their party was dead also as he committed suicide rather than go back and face Pennywise/IT...
NancyG
06-18-2008, 12:16 AM
I don't think John was ever completely wanted by the island. After all, Richard rejected him as a child. I think he was set up by Ben, who fooled him into thinking he was in charge of the Others. Ben is in charge of everything — and a liar. I'm sure he can come back to the island whenever he wants to.
evanesco75
06-18-2008, 12:29 AM
That's an interesting thought, NancyG. We did see Richard reject him quite sternly before in CF.
But it also seemed to me, when Locke came back to the Others from the Orchid and Richard said, ' welcome home, John', that Locke was now deemed ready in a sense, to take charge. Perhaps he'd been tested as a kid, found wanting and then tested again here, on the Island and found ready?
maxaholic
06-18-2008, 03:12 PM
i've always said that there was a comparison to IT and lost.
i think that locke coming back obviously had something to do with the very bad things and he not wanting any part of that. he took his one last ditch effort to fix what was wrong by moving the island and leaving. ben tells locke in th finale that he will never be able to come back to the island. if that's the case, how does he expect to do it? however the case, i don't think that ben and locke will be welcomed back with open arms. i think that richard has a lot to do with it.
UnderAlienControl
06-20-2008, 04:28 PM
Yeah, but I don't know that Ben is actually planning to go with them, it looks more like he's prepping the 06 plus Bentham to go in his stead. I still can't shake the feeling that the "long con" is still going on, and that the chain of events we are now being presented with are quite possibly the real "beginning" of the show, not "the ending" as we've been lead to believe. Like, this is still part of "the game" being played, that it's not over and is still ongoing...In accordance with THE PROPHECY, of course...with the outcome still to be determined and facilitators still moving pieces on the board. That maybe the whole endgame boils down to getting these 06 + "Weekend at Bentham's" Locke back on the island. Then the real endgame starts. Then "THE PROPHECY" begins to be realized, in accordance with, of course...
I mean, doesn't it look like Locke's the patsy in all this, the "Lee Harvey" of LOST...? That The Other's and Ben still want to use him for something to facilitate their agenda? He's like Desmond, in a fashion. He's a catalyst-he's gotta be there to make things go down. He's an "actor" facilitated onto the island by a "director", in a sense. So was Desmond. Jin could fit this category, simply because Sun was supposed to ditch him and not be on the flight, so the effect for Paik would've been that he got rid of his son-in-law and his hands are clean. But, maybe that in the event he's way deep down the rabbit hole with Widmore in all of this, then he's got a man on the island, too. But Daddy's Sun got stuck on the island and he had to get her off, and did her reverse decision to stay with Jin ultimately throw a monkey wrench into the Widmore side of THE PROPHECY? A new wrinkle or variable to contend with? I kept waiting for Charlotte to give Jin a message from Paik in Korean, but no such luck, so far. If Jin's still around, and I think he is, then maybe Jin and Charlotte will have some palaver next year about some things Paik. Just a guess, though...
Either way, I still think there is alot of "long conning" left to go with this, and I just had a thought: If Ben says that once you move the island you can't return, and he's not lying, could this be due to some entanglement which occurs with the exotic matter when the process is activated? Could it somehow become part of your essence which would make it unsafe to return to the island ala Bugs#15/Bugs#15...?
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