Charlotte was an anthropologist;most anthropologists, like the Leakys, were searching for the birthplace of Homo Sapiens. She was no exception; when she said to Faraday that she was staying to find where she was born, she was talking about the human race's birthplace-the legendary Garden of Eden, or possibly the Island nation of Mu, the legendary birthplace of mankind.

Hmm, very interesting. I hadn't thought about like that. Charlotte certainly is a mystery. What did Miles mean by her being there before?

The immediate thought that came into my mind was that Charlotte is Annie. That may be a little far-fetched, but that was what I initially thought when she said that.

Miles told her she was there before... I think she meant herself, I think that somehow growing up she learned of something that tied her birth to the island.... (obviously weird because births don't always go so well in that place).

But well, don't think she's annie or else ben woulda had more interest in her... Maybe she was dharma or an other from a time long past...

that ties in with "Adam and Eve" the skeletons on the island. maybe they really are Adam and Eve :)

She's not just looking for the birthplace of humanity. First off, I highly doubt that the island is the birth all humanity. And secondly, and more importantly, Miles suggested that Charlotte had been on the island before, and it didn't seem to be in the cosmic, "this is where all people came from" context." Charlotte was on that island before. I think her actions proved that, as her attitude changed once Miles called her out about it.

I think she is going to be an important character to the overall mythology to the story. I.e. she was one of the few (only?) people to actually survived being born on the island.

After she made her birthplace comment, and because of Miles saying she was there before, I thought that maybe she was the child of Annie and Ben. I also think that maybe Jack has yet another half sister he doesn't know about.

Well, when Miles said that about her being there before, the first thing I thought of was when she found the polar bear skeleton in Tunisia (or wherever) and how she recognized the Dharma logo instantly. Ever since then I had thought she had been on the island.

The immediate thought that came into my mind was that Charlotte is Annie. That may be a little far-fetched, but that was what I initially thought when she said that.

No, Annie is dead-Ben was clearly mourning her on his birthday in 3X20 with his wooden doll of her, and Goodwin's wife told Juliet that she looked just like "her" re Ben's crush on her(juliet). Charlotte is on a scholar's quest, and she stayed because she realized she had found what she was looking for. Plus Ben SHOT HER. Remember, anthropologists holy grail is the birthplace of mankind-right now it is believed to be Olduvai gorge in Africa, but the legendary places are Eden, Mu, etc. both of which have numerous tie-ins to the mythology of the show.

I think they were implying she was on the island in a former life.

Charlotte was an anthropologist;most anthropologists, like the Leakys, were searching for the birthplace of Homo Sapiens. She was no exception; when she said to Faraday that she was staying to find where she was born, she was talking about the human race's birthplace-the legendary Garden of Eden, or possibly the Island nation of Mu, the legendary birthplace of mankind.

Also, CS Lewis (after whom I'm convinced Charlotte was named) wrote a story where pirates from our world came into Narnia through a "door from the world of men." In the Narnia stories, Digory and Polly (Desmond/ Penny?) were present at the creation of Narnia, at its birth, and are present at its end.

Anthropologists are not all concerned with Eden.

Do we know what type of anthropologist Charlotte is? A Cultural Anthropologist is concerned with the structure, customs, history of various cultures. A physical anthro is concerned with anatomy and biology and study how humankind has adapted and changed.

Anthropology focuses on human characteristics generated and continued by humans themselves.

I was an clutural anthro major for a little bit and not one of my classmates was concerned with the origins of humankind, but rather the diversity of humankind. A physical anthro would be, but we do not know that she is a physical anthro, do we?

Anyway. I interpreted her convo with Miles to mean that she was either born on the island or was there at some point in her life. He said that she had searched so long to get "back here". This means she had been here once before.

Charlotte was an anthropologist;most anthropologists, like the Leakys, were searching for the birthplace of Homo Sapiens. She was no exception; when she said to Faraday that she was staying to find where she was born, she was talking about the human race's birthplace-the legendary Garden of Eden, or possibly the Island nation of Mu, the legendary birthplace of mankind.

That is an interesting thought, indeed! And it gets even more interesting if we start relating the obvious ancient civilization that ruled once the island with your idea...

HOW?

I've been throwing this idea in several threads now, so I will do it here again, because it seems more relevant now.....


Who could this ancient civilization have been???

ANUNNAKI (http://www.thestargates.com/artapprentice.net/httpdocs/old_webpage/anunnakiabyss/page4.html)

Legend has it that this mythical race are responsible for the creation of the Human Being, by genetic manipulation.;)

It is worth noticing that Gilgamesh is sort of related to this anunnaki tales. And, as you probably remember, he was mentioned by Mr Eko....

Fierro
again, your insight amazes me-
very interesting.....

Fierro
again, your insight amazes me-
very interesting.....
Thanks, I believe that the island might end up being the 'laboratory' where LIFE (as humans) started, and, unfortunately, where it all will end.....:frown:

I believe that sumerian tales might give us some nice parallels to the show....


http://home.comcast.net/~chris.s/sumer-faq.html

well could Charlotte have been one of the natives on the island? or someone that was part of the Dharma Initiative but left for some reason? Or maybe she is Eve...and that would make Dan, Adam?

First off, I highly doubt that the island is the birth all humanity.
I predict that it is. Human culture pops up, to the limit of our ability to reliably date it, simultaneously at three or four places all across the globe, roughly 10,000 years ago. They had to originate from somewhere. Why not the island? The ancient glyphs have characteristics of both Egyptian and American Hieroglyphs. One of the island wormholes leads to Tunisia, which was a paradise 10,000 years ago... when it dried up, whoever was living in the region followed the sea east to the Nile, and ultimately built the pyramids. Another of the island wormholes leads to one of the most holy places in prehistoric America, the temple mound that became Tallahassee.

And secondly, and more importantly, Miles suggested that Charlotte had been on the island before, and it didn't seem to be in the cosmic, "this is where all people came from" context." Charlotte was on that island before. I think her actions proved that, as her attitude changed once Miles called her out about it.
I agree. And if her "I'm still looking for where I was born" is supposed to reference humanity, why not "where we were born?" Is she implying that Daniel is an alien?

I think she is going to be an important character to the overall mythology to the story. I.e. she was one of the few (only?) people to actually survived being born on the island.
I think the island has been populated continuously for many millennia, so the childbirth problem is only a recent development, caused by Ben. I think Charlotte is important, but probably mostly because of her parents (David and Jeannette). I think it will probably be through her flashbacks that we start learning more about DHARMA and the purge.

No, Annie is dead-Ben was clearly mourning her on his birthday in 3X20 with his wooden doll of her
You are correct, sir.
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Anthropologists are not all concerned with Eden.

Do we know what type of anthropologist Charlotte is? A Cultural Anthropologist is concerned with the structure, customs, history of various cultures. A physical anthro is concerned with anatomy and biology and study how humankind has adapted and changed.

Anthropology focuses on human characteristics generated and continued by humans themselves.

I was an clutural anthro major for a little bit and not one of my classmates was concerned with the origins of humankind, but rather the diversity of humankind. A physical anthro would be, but we do not know that she is a physical anthro, do we?

Anyway. I interpreted her convo with Miles to mean that she was either born on the island or was there at some point in her life. He said that she had searched so long to get "back here". This means she had been here once before.

She's a cultural anthropologist. My guess is that her parents were cultural anthropologists, or one of them was, for DHARMA, and that she knows that the place where she was born was extremely important to her field of study -- and that she is actually hoping to find and study the original culture that spawned all of human culture.

After she made her birthplace comment, and because of Miles saying she was there before, I thought that maybe she was the child of Annie and Ben. I also think that maybe Jack has yet another half sister he doesn't know about.

With all the tie-ins to everyone either being related or knowing eachother, I am most inclined to agree with this... Maybe this show is being written to help us understand the meaning of the song "I'm my own grandpa." :eek2:

Human culture pops up, to the limit of our ability to reliably date it, simultaneously at three or four places all across the globe, roughly 10,000 years ago. They had to originate from somewhere. Why not the island?

That's a big assumption. No reason different groups can't each have their own culture. Nor does us finding three or four earlier cultures preclude there being many more.
Another of the island wormholes leads to one of the most holy places in prehistoric America, the temple mound that became Tallahassee.Richard may have traveled to Tallahassee, but we have no reason to think it was via a wormhole.
She's a cultural anthropologist.Yes, she is. And as molly1977 said
A Cultural Anthropologist is concerned with the structure, customs, history of various cultures.

I predict that it is. Human culture pops up, to the limit of our ability to reliably date it, simultaneously at three or four places all across the globe, roughly 10,000 years ago. They had to originate from somewhere. .

I'm along for the ride with the crazy island mythology like everybody else. (I don't think there will be any Atlantis/Mu connection, though, simply because there isn't time in the number of remaining episodes for such a complicated new complication.)

However, my pedantic, literal self also must take issue with your speculation. There is very, very good physical and genetic evidence that modern homo sapiens evolved in Africa about 200,000 years ago. Africa is truly the mother of us all. There were other kinds of humans who left Africa earlier or evolved elsewhere, but they are all extinct.

I'm along for the ride with the crazy island mythology like everybody else. (I don't think there will be any Atlantis/Mu connection, though, simply because there isn't time in the number of remaining episodes for such a complicated new complication.)

However, my pedantic, literal self also must take issue with your speculation. There is very, very good physical and genetic evidence that modern homo sapiens evolved in Africa about 200,000 years ago. Africa is truly the mother of us all. There were other kinds of humans who left Africa earlier or evolved elsewhere, but they are all extinct.


My upcoming theory states that a huge mothership from a very advanced civilization that we referred to as the Anunnaki, crashed some 500,000 years ago near the cost of Africa. Such impact caused a quite large piece of land to get separated from its mainland, carrying the wrecked ship buried deep down inside...
Yeah. That floating piece of land became the Island. Eden. The Cradle of Human Civilization.
How? Well, 'Adam and Eve' were created inside this island/spaceship/laboratory by the Annunaki.

I think they were implying she was on the island in a former life.

Charlotte was Shannon, Daniel was Boone, Naomi was Ana Lucia and Keamy was Eko. They're back, in another life.

Charlotte was Shannon, Daniel was Boone, Naomi was Ana Lucia and Keamy was Eko. They're back, in another life.

What a lovely idea. I wish this was true. Do we know how old Charlotte is? The reason that I ask is that there seems to be the idea that she could be Annie and we have seen time stop for Richard (in terms of aging), but we do not know the age he stopped aging.