That whole sequence with Kate and the phone and then Claire with Aaron totally freaked me out:eek2: !!!

Has anyone figured out what was said to Kate and who was saying it yet?

And while Im on the subject of Claire. I was under the impression that she was referring to not bringing Aaron back to the island. But a friend of mine said she thought that Claire was talking about not bringing back Jack to raise Aaron since "He's not soppose to raise him"

At first I didn't think that theory was that good but the more that i think about it I see that it could be possible, what do you think?

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was that locke?

freaky

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That's freaky. "The island needs you, you need to go back before its too late"

I'm glad we are finally getting to see Kate start to unravel. Brings balance to everything and she will start to understand Jack and realize that he is right.

I dont understand! the caller tells her she has to go back to the island, ben tells Jack that ALL of them need to return to the island, and Claire tells Kate (dream?) that Aaron can't go back! What is going on??

Wait, I'm confused. Was the call part of her dream as well?
Methinks it's all a little too ambiguous to figure out the meaning. It could all just be chalked up to Kate having a stressful dream. I kind of wish Claire's visit had been while she was awake, because that would have had more of a definite meaning.

The recording was awesome and I do think it's Locke's voice telling Kate she needs to go back to the Island before it's too late. I'm starting to think that Claire is a manifestation of Kate's guilt and her reluctance to go bakc to the Island since she dreamed it and was actually visited by Claire.

The part that freaked me out is that was a Panasonic phone and those phones have a intercom that works between handsets in the same house and the ring tone we heard is the phone to phone ring and not the ring if someone is calling in from outside. I have practically the same phone and jumped when I heard the ring.

The part that freaked me out is that was a Panasonic phone and those phones have a intercom that works between handsets in the same house and the ring tone we heard is the phone to phone ring and not the ring if someone is calling in from outside. I have practically the same phone and jumped when I heard the ring.
Ugh, that's definitely creepier.

I didn't think the call was part of a dream, but I could be wrong. I can't understand why Claire wouldn't want Aaron back on the island if he needs to be there.

Claire really doesn't want to have anything to do with Aaron.

was that locke?

freaky


yah, It defently sounded like Locke to me.
100%
Claire really doesn't want to have anything to do with Aaron.

I don't think it is Claire, I think it is a manafestation of Smokey/The Island/Jacob. Much like Christian was when he showed up on the ship with Michael. Christian isn't real or alive or else he would have died when the ship blew up.

OR

Claire was just part of Kate's dream, and had nothing to do with the island or Claire.

And to answer a earlier question, I beleive the phone call was part of the dream, that is what got her to be awakened so she would be alert to hear someone in the house.

The part that freaked me out is that was a Panasonic phone and those phones have a intercom that works between handsets in the same house and the ring tone we heard is the phone to phone ring and not the ring if someone is calling in from outside. I have practically the same phone and jumped when I heard the ring.

WOW! :eek2: Now that info really freaks me out... gracious me!

Claire really doesn't want to have anything to do with Aaron.

It's not that. If things really are very bad right now on the island, Claire doesn't want her son to come back and possibly be put in harms way.

Im not sure that Im ready to believe that claire was actually there in Aarons room in Kates dream. It's more likely that the island is playing tricks on Kate. But im just not sure as to why she would get a phone call saying that the island needs her and then the island would say don't bring Aaron back. I think my head hurts.

Im not sure that Im ready to believe that claire was actually there in Aarons room in Kates dream. It's more likely that the island is playing tricks on Kate. But im just not sure as to why she would get a phone call saying that the island needs her and then the island would say don't bring Aaron back. I think my head hurts.

Yeah. I think we know Kate and everyone else need to go back - Locke was right in that they were never supposed to leave - so that makes the mysterious phone caller correct. So what does that make Claire? It seems unlikely she is a manifestation of the island if she's telling Kate to keep Aaron away.

I do think it's significant that this all happened in a dream though. Every other vision (Jack with Christian, Michael with Christian, Hurley with Charlie and Eko) has happened while the person was awake.

(In the dream( Was that someone ONCE AGAIN speaking backwards? Right before she saw Claire...need...audio...NOW! :)

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"You have to go back. The Island needs you before it's too late"? Did I hear that correctly?

"The island needs you. You have to go back.... before it's too late."

That's awesome. She's getting a phone call telling her she HAS to come back, and then she's getting a visit from Ghost Claire telling her she better not even THINK about taking Aaron back there.

Is the Island good?? Is it bad?? I'm dying to know. But I'm sure it'll end up being a lot of gray, rather than anything black and white, as that's the one thing the show has always alluded to - there is no such thing as something (or someone) truly just "good" or "bad".

Dude, Claire was scarey.

What was said in the phone call to Kate in her dream?

It sounded like that weird backwards talk that Walt did way back.

According to Dark's site (http://losteastereggs.blogspot.com/2008/05/reversed-phone-message-for-kate.html), it's something like "the island needs you. you have to go back before its too late."

Yeah. I think we know Kate and everyone else need to go back - Locke was right in that they were never supposed to leave - so that makes the mysterious phone caller correct. So what does that make Claire? It seems unlikely she is a manifestation of the island if she's telling Kate to keep Aaron away.

I do think it's significant that this all happened in a dream though. Every other vision (Jack with Christian, Michael with Christian, Hurley with Charlie and Eko) has happened while the person was awake.


Nice point, they were all awake, Buuuut that phone call was also in her dream, could one part of her dream be from the island and another from some other sorce?

See it's the fact that we have contridicting actions coming from the same dream sequence that throws me. I do believe that it is lockes voice on the phone however, and we see Claire in Kates house, both of whom are closely associated with the island and both of whom are saying completely different things. One of them is working against the islnads wishes, and since John came off the island and the island let him finally die it looks as if he is at odds with the island. Just a theory, not sure yet if it holds water.

See it's the fact that we have contridicting actions coming from the same dream sequence that throws me. I do believe that it is lockes voice on the phone however, and we see Claire in Kates house, both of whom are closely associated with the island and both of whom are saying completely different things. One of them is working against the islnads wishes, and since John came off the island and the island let him finally die it looks as if he is at odds with the island. Just a theory, not sure yet if it holds water.

I agree... I think there are two different forces at work on the island-- one that needs Aaron to come back, the other that wants to protect him and keep him away. Who is working for whom? Jacob, Smokey, Christian, Claire, Richard Alpert -- these seem to be the people representing the island these days-- but which sides are they on?

I think Kate has real guilt that she's raising Claire's son and Claire is left on the island. Hurley asked Jack in front of Kate when they get to the freighter if they can go back and look for Claire and Jack says definitely. So, few think she's still alive (so do I); therefore, Kate has to feel bad that she and Aaron are good and Claire is not. Sooo, I believe that the dream is to make her feel better that Claire doesn't want Aaron back after Jack screamed, WE HAVE TO GO BACK. Kate made it clear that she doesn't want to and with the phone call, dream or not, she is now questioning what is right. I believe this because why would she go back into Aaron's room after the dream and sob, I'm so sorry. I'm sorry. She is apologizing to Aaron for the whole situation and the fact that she's lying that she's his mommy.

I see it this way.
The phone call is the island or Locke trying to get Kate back to the island. The same that the island and or Locke is trying to get the rest of them back to the island.

Claire, I think she now knows why the island wants Aaron and her warning to Kate is to protect him.

We have no idea if the reason behind Aaron needing to be on the island is good or bad.

I have not seen this mentioned in here but some people think the voice on the phone may be Sawyers. Apparently you can hear that southern draw.

Just a couple points:

1. Karri's point about the phone being on "intercom" (not a call from the outside line) is right on target - dream or not - because when Kate got that call, she immediately looked toward her bedroom door and went to get her gun, strongly suggesting that she was afraid the caller was in the house.

2. Whether it was a dream or not is irrelevant. Apparitions often communicate through dreams - Horace or whatever his name was came to Locke in a dream to let him know where the cabin plans were, for just one example - so wondering if Claire was "really there" or if it was a dream is a false dichotomy. The Claire appartition was there, communicating to Kate, just as much and as certainly as if she had appeared while Kate was "awake".

And see...I was thinking that Locke (and the other people on the island) wants them to come back. But the Island (manifested in Claire) doesn't want them back because then they can take over the island again.

Locke (aka Bentham) told them that horrible things had happened.

I bet Smokey/Christian/whatever takes over and it's like the monster in the jungle/whispers all the time. The people are terrorized. And there are people still waiting for rescue too.

I don't know...that's just my initial thought. It could change. lol

I have not seen this mentioned in here but some people think the voice on the phone may be Sawyers. Apparently you can hear that southern draw.

When I heard it the first time I thought it was Sawyer too.

Does anyone have any confirmation on whos voice it really was?

Just a couple points:


2. Whether it was a dream or not is irrelevant. Apparitions often communicate through dreams - Horace or whatever his name was came to Locke in a dream to let him know where the cabin plans were, for just one example - so wondering if Claire was "really there" or if it was a dream is a false dichotomy. The Claire appartition was there, communicating to Kate, just as much and as certainly as if she had appeared while Kate was "awake".


Good point, I forgot about him and Lockes dream. but it still doesn't change that these two messages are in the same dream and they both contradict each other. If they were by two different people, they probably wouldn't come in the same dream. Logically thinking, we're missing some very important piece of information here.
But good catch none the less.

The reversed audio of Kate's phone call is up at DarkUFO.
Has anybody heard it?
Who do you think it is?

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I love when the TPTB do stuff like this!
I have a feeling she and Jack and the rest of the O6 will be going back next season.

The thing is, did Kate really get a phone call from the island or was it just in her dream? We did see her wake up startled after seeing Clarie and she was still in bed as if dreaming about seeing Claire and getting the phone call.

the voice doesn't sound familiar...or that I can place

i thought that was part of the dream-
but dreams have proven to be very important-
Ben, locke, claire...

Creepy. That would make me not want to go back. Ever.

Also the phone call was backwards - when was the last time we heard a warning that was backwards - Walt appearing to Shannon. Maybe this is something or something relating to the time travel/island effects.

I am also confused by the whole Claire not wanting Aaron to go back and Ben and everyone else convinced to go back. Claire seemed to be "in" with the island, Christain, Jacob and the cabin....

When I heard Claire speak last night (in Aaron's room) I would swear it wasn't her voice. I wonder if I'm just imagining that or it really wasn't her voice. It would seem to me that the real Claire would want Aaron to return to her on the island so I think the manifestation of Claire in Kate's house was smokey trying to counter Locke's efforts to get them all to return.

i was thinking the same thing, makuahine. "they" are using her image to play on kate's emotions or guilt about aaron. just like they used eko's brother who we know was long dead when he appeared to him.
not really claire is my vote. working against a return posse to the island. unlike charlie's message to hurley.
i did not recognize the voice either. it did not sound like either locke or sawyer imo.

To me the voice on the phone sounded like Miles.

Re: The call she received right before the "dream" of finding Claire with Aaron...
According to what I read, the message reversed said, "The Island needs you. You have to go back before its too late. "

Was it Locke aka Bentham?

I agree with the theory that when Claire warns Kate not to "raise him "(we assume she means Aaron, because she is sitting beside him), but she really means John Locke.

"Don't raise him", as from the dead.

This would reinforce the phone call warning that tells her she can't go back to the island. Something bad is happening to people on the island (zombies, maybe?) and since Claire and Kate were friends, Claire is warning her to stay away.:frown:

Dude, Claire was scarey.Agreed. I was surprised at how scary she got once she gets mad like that.

AF,I'm glad you brought the call up. I thought it might be the whisperers since we heard them so often in the finale. Where did you found out what the message said?

It was me. Kate just loves our late-night backwards talking breathing sessions. Thats why she grabbed the gun.

It didn't sound like Locke, or anyone else I could recognize...

-steve

It almost sounds like Sawyer saying this when you hear the reverse audio.

According to Dark's site (http://losteastereggs.blogspot.com/2008/05/reversed-phone-message-for-kate.html), it's something like "the island needs you. you have to go back before its too late."


that's pretty much exactly what the mysterious voice the other end of the line says. Sounds a bit like Christian or maybe Richard to me....

I think that it is important that the phone call was backwards. So, if you were to take the opposite meaning of the call it would tell her not to go back. With that thinking, if you reverse the meaning of the entire dream, then Claire would WANT Kate to take Aaron back and the message would then be forward and tell her to come back before it is too late.