In the flash forwards tonight we saw that Claire had appeared to Kate in a dream telling her not to bring 'him' back. The most obvious interpretation of what Claire meant is that Aaron was not supposed to be brought back but I don't think that is who Claire was talking about.

When Claire tells Kate not to bring him back she is actually refering to Locke.
We know that Locke had visited Kate. We also know from the final scene that Ben told Jack that he had to bring everyone back to the island, all the oceanic 6. Ben also told Jack he had to bring Locke's body back.

I believe that to get back to the island only the 6 that made it back to the real world can go back together. Claire is telling Kate they can't take Locke back.

In Cabin Fever , Locke saw Claire in the cabin with Christian . This scene has to do with why Claire is saying Locke should not be brought back.

Stacy Lane

I disagree. I think she was most definitely referring to Aaron -- especially considering Ben's insistence that they ALL had to go back.

Yeah. I think she was talking about Aaron, but if it was Locke, it would be worthy mentioning the other unedited Orchid video in which Halliwax said that both bunnies shouldn't touch each other.... Perhaps, Claire is scared that both Lockes get too near to each other???

What if Claire's actually talking about Ben?

You know he'd want to go back to the island and if he knows that getting the "six" + Locke and whoever else can somehow open a portal BACK to the island to "course correct", maybe he'll try to hitch a ride back in.

I kinda like the Locke interpretation. It'll be interesting to see what Locke does on the island after the island moves.

I'm not sure it's correct, but I love, love, love the idea that she was talking about someone else. I assumed it was Aaron, it never even occurred to me it could be someone else... I need to re-watch.

Hmm. Interesting idea. Maybe she was talking about her brother.

I like the idea of Ben. He always has an agenda of his own, and seemed pretty confident that the island was 'punishing' him. It seems that Claire and the islanders may know he is trying to get back when he shouldn't be.

I think Claire was talking about Aaron.. she's trying to protect him and I think Claire's angry and concerned Kate may go with Jack and the others back to the island.. along with Aaron. But, I think it might just happen.. Jack will try to do whatever he can to talk her into going.. even by telling her that Claire is his sister..

I'm sure Kate hasn't been having the greatest time raising Aaron, knowing he's not her child.. and still lying about the crash. Kate's been free from going to prison.. but not free from the island. She knows it.. so maybe she will go back with Jack.

Maybe Claire knows more than what they know about the island.. maybe theres no way of getting off the island after they do go back? Like what Daniel had said? "Maybe there won't be another time.." to Charlotte before he left. Than we learn that Charlotte's been on the island before.. saying "This is where I was born.. I'm staying.."

So it makes you wonder how many chances do they have to go to the island and than leave? We've seen the intense times of them leaving the island in the Season 4 finale.. and now the island has been moved.. how many chances does the island have to survive those moves? It's like a chess game.. if the island can't move any longer, or moves a wrong way.. game over?

Claire was not talking about Aaron. She meant either Ben or Locke.

Throughout this episode when they talked about 'him' they meant Locke. It could be Ben however since Ben said all the Oceanic 6 have to go back to the island and they have to take Locke.

If Claire were referring to Aaron she would have called him by name.She also would have corrected Kate calling Aaron 'my son'.

I think Ben is correct when he says that Jack can not go back without the other members of the Oceanic 6. There is no way Kate would ever go back to the island without Aaron.It is very clear to me that she loves him unconditionally and loves him as though he is her biological child.If she didn't love being his mom she wouldn't have gotten so angry with Jack speaking his name. Kate doesn't want to go back because she's happy with her life.

Locke had visited Kate so that would be one reason Claire would appear to Kate saying not to bring him back.

I agree with Stacy. Claire was not referring to Aaron, after all this is Lost and when on Lost has the easiest answer been the correct answer.

Macainickle

It would definitely be interesting if she wasn't talking about Aaron.

I think she was talking about Aaron. One dramatic possibility that I thought of is that there is a catch to that "everyone needs to go back" line. If it is the island, or Jacob, saying that everyone is needed in order to return, we have no reason to think that an island follows human ethics. Perhaps the island needs them to return, and all of them have to be there to effect the return, but the fine print is that Aaron will die or be permanently harmed by this.:eek2: An island wouldn't see the big deal in a toddler dying--baby birds fall out of nests, strangler figs kill their host trees, all part of nature--but Claire wouldn't see the matter so philosophically! This could create a conflict of forces on the island as well as a conflict of wills off it.

I kind of wanted Claire to say, "our son" after Kate's line. By this time, Kate has been Aaron's mother longer than Claire had--even counting the pregnancy, possibly even counting the relationship with Thomas. :rolleyes: Whatever, I cheer most times Kate calls Aaron her son, since she is backing it up by putting his welfare first and refusing to use him for her own benefit. Kids understand actions better than genetics and I'm glad Aaron's current mom is doing at least as well for him as his birth mom would.

The only reason I doubt that Claire was talking about anyone else is...well, why would she?

She's Aaron's mother, standing over her child's bed, just seconds after Kate (Aaron's guardian) took the weirdest phone call in the world (the backwards "The island needs you, you have to go back before it's too late), so fresh in Kate's subconscious mind is returning to the island... I don't know that it really could apply to anyone else!

That was a dream though so how do we even know that was really Claire? When other people get 'messages' from someone who is not supposed to be there (ie Christiana million times) the characters never 'wake up' as if they were in a dream like Kate did.

Although it seemed to have a lot of significance, it could easily be Kates guilty subconscious.

I'm very interested by this theory because it ties in with one of my own. It seems altogether plausible that both Claire's comment and Charlie's (relayed via Hurley) - "You can't raise him, Jack" - refer to bringing Locke back to (and back to life on) the island, especially in the light of Ben's plan.

Locke has received a few dream visions - Boone, Horace for example.

It's easy to just assume that she meant Aaron, but if there's one thing about LOST, you cannot take it at face value... so maybe it could be Jack, Locke, or Ben....

One thing I must point out: sometimes these ghost people (a la evil Yemi smokemonster with regards to Eko) seem to be leading someone astray... I could be wrong on that one... but they don't always seem light, sometimes they seem dark... like there are 2 types of ghosts, visions... just a thought.

This is a tough one to chew on. On one hand, at the cabin, CS told Locke that Aaron was where he was supposed to be, so our first assumption was that the baby was supposed to be positioned to leave the island.

On the other hand, we have Master Manipulator Ben telling a mentally fragile Jack that they all have to go back or no one does. Ben was exiled from the island, pretty much removed kicking and screaming from his position of power, so Claire may very well have been referring to him.

Or else Locke fell from island grace, too. That would be the only reason making any sense for John being off the island in the first place.

I'll be thinking about until next season for sure!

On the other hand, we have Master Manipulator Ben telling a mentally fragile Jack that they all have to go back or no one does. Ben was exiled from the island, pretty much removed kicking and screaming from his position of power, so Claire may very well have been referring to him.

Or else Locke fell from island grace, too. That would be the only reason making any sense for John being off the island in the first place.

I'll be thinking about until next season for sure!

Yeah, okay, maybe you're bringing me around to this conclusion.

Maybe Claire can only manifest through Aaron to Kate.

Therefore she's not talking about Aaron, but just being motherly-gooey eyes before she delivers the message to Kate.

Ben is manipulating the O6 to use get back to the island himself. I really think that in following "Jacob's Rules", he really cannot come back to the island, but maybe piggybacking on the O6 he might have found a loophole.

I don't think Locke would have left the island unless it was for the good of the island somehow. Maybe things have gone as bad on the island as they have for the O6ers off the island in the three years that had passed. These unfortunate events lead Locke to have a vision where Jacob/Christian/Boone/Charlie/Taller Walt/Claire tell him that in order to save the island, he has to bring the O6 (plus Walt?) "home". In order to get the message to them, he leaves the island and visits each. Ben gets wind that Locke is planning something on the island off the island, confronts Locke, they disagree, Ben stages his suicide (so now he is not at the mercy of the island favoring Locke over him), but knowing that he will need to still return the remains of Locke to the island 'cause that's where "the magic happens" in order to make an offering to the island. Perhaps it is offering the body of Locke to Jacob/Island that is Ben's ticket?

So many questions~!

I hope the LOST writers are giving us a twist, and that Claire isn't talking about Aaron, she's talking about Ben or Locke. If Locke also moved the island to get off, then neither are supposed to go back. What hell will break loose if they do get back to the island? The final confrontation.

I think Jack and Kate will figure this out, but too late. Darn it.

Yeah. I think she was talking about Aaron, but if it was Locke, it would be worthy mentioning the other unedited Orchid video in which Halliwax said that both bunnies shouldn't touch each other.... Perhaps, Claire is scared that both Lockes get too near to each other???
Looks like someone else here figured out Locke had a double.

Maybe ghost Claire has hooked up w/Sawyer and now she is keeping the competition out!!!

What if Claire's actually talking about Ben?

You know he'd want to go back to the island and if he knows that getting the "six" + Locke and whoever else can somehow open a portal BACK to the island to "course correct", maybe he'll try to hitch a ride back in.

I think you may be onto something here, Claire's not wanting Ben to get back may be the same as Ben not wanting widmore to get back to the island. If the islands moving requires a sacrifice perhaps the sacrificed can never return.

What confuses me is that if Ben knows of a way to get back to the island why is he so upset when he does the donkey wheel slow dance?

I think you may be onto something here, Claire's not wanting Ben to get back may be the same as Ben not wanting widmore to get back to the island. If the islands moving requires a sacrifice perhaps the sacrificed can never return.

What confuses me is that if Ben knows of a way to get back to the island why is he so upset when he does the donkey wheel slow dance?

Ben got off the island in 2005, and it's about 2007/2008 now. What if he discovered the piggy-back way NOW and he was upset before because he didn't know.

I think the island needs a certain balance. Ben's sacrifice is just that, a sacrifice the island demands, but the O6 leaving leaves the real world and the island world thrown OFF balance -- which is why every thing's going to crap in both places. If the O6 return -- and I believe the island let them leave knowing full well they'd eventually return -- they'll, um, restore balance to the force, BUT, if Ben isn't supposed to return, and he does, he again tips the scales.

Maybe Ben believes that since Locke is DEAD the island won't notice him being the replacement for Locke?

It just seems on Lost, to throw vague statements into the wind (Charlie and Claire's messages to Jack and Kate) is to demand those statements be given a deeper look.

Maybe ghost Claire has hooked up w/Sawyer and now she is keeping the competition out!!!

That's a very good theory!! :D Maybe you're on to something.. Kate will be upset and ghost Charlie will too. ;) Our next love triangle..

I don't know...it really seemed like she was talking about Aaron. I'd be very surprised, but ya never know ;)

Whilst it all points to Claire talking about Aaron (she appeared to Kate, was in Aaron's room, was holding his hand) I think that it is completely in character of the writers to be referring to somebody else. Although I'm not completely convinced, I believe aswell that Claire is talking about Locke. It also made me think of why Kate was crying and saying sorry to Aaron. Maybe she is saying sorry to Claire, indirectly (through Aaron) for not being able to prevent Locke from returning to the island, and causing more 'horrible things'. Or maybe, she is actually saying sorry because Claire (or someone else) has come to her previously and told her that message already - and she acted upon it. Either she is responsible for Locke's 'suicide' or she asked someone else to murder him - perhaps Sayid? And she is sorry because she didn't want Aaron to be raised with a 'mother' who is once again responsible for somebody's death.