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Adam Warlock
02-09-2006, 04:49 PM
Well I figure there must be some other Twin Peaks fans so here's a place to discuss the only other TV show that made me analyse content and consider possible plot develpoments as much as Lost.

mygoodeye
02-11-2006, 10:39 AM
i guess i never got into analysing Twin Peaks, i only saw it for the first time about 4 years ago. i watched the film first (whoops) so i knew who the killer was, kinda took away some of the WKLP? mystery, but it left me to just enjoy the characters and the wackyness. i wish theyd release the rest on DVD.
Audrey's my favourite character:cool:

Adam Warlock
02-16-2006, 01:33 PM
i guess i never got into analysing Twin Peaks, i only saw it for the first time about 4 years ago. i watched the film first (whoops) so i knew who the killer was, kinda took away some of the WKLP? mystery, but it left me to just enjoy the characters and the wackyness. i wish theyd release the rest on DVD.
Audrey's my favourite character:cool:

Yeah I can see how seeing Fire Walk With Me first could take that aspect of the away from the show.

Totaly agree about the DVD! I have season 1 and Fire Walk With Me an thats it! No season 2 how stupid is that! It just never got released!

Agent Cooper was my favorate character! He is so cool!

BurningStar4
02-19-2006, 03:46 PM
Hey guys, I'm a big Twin Peaks fan. I started watching a couple years ago on DVD.

I have heard rumors that Season 2 is coming out this Spring on DVD. I actually have a set of Season 2 DVD's from Spain. I guess they were released over there and they sell them on E-Bay, however, the quality is not good, it looks like a VHS recording, but I bought them because I had to see the end of Twin Peaks...I think you understand, haha.

Anyway, I love Twin Peaks and a lot of the stuff that happens in LOST reminds me of stuff in Twin Peaks.

Adam Warlock
02-20-2006, 02:48 PM
Hey guys, I'm a big Twin Peaks fan. I started watching a couple years ago on DVD.

I have heard rumors that Season 2 is coming out this Spring on DVD. I actually have a set of Season 2 DVD's from Spain. I guess they were released over there and they sell them on E-Bay, however, the quality is not good, it looks like a VHS recording, but I bought them because I had to see the end of Twin Peaks...I think you understand, haha.

Anyway, I love Twin Peaks and a lot of the stuff that happens in LOST reminds me of stuff in Twin Peaks.

Wow that's so cool! I realy hope season 2 is set for release! I also agree about a lot of the more bizzare aspects of Lost borrowing from Twin Peaks.

BurningStar4
02-20-2006, 02:59 PM
Hey guys, I saw this today, I hope this happens!

http://www.entertainmentwise.com/news?id=11298

I checked again and the word is still Spring 2006 on the Season 2 DVD's. However, since the date always gets pushed back I wouldn't get too excited over it just yet. I really hope it does come out this Spring though, we shall see.

Adam Warlock
02-21-2006, 01:50 PM
Hey guys, I saw this today, I hope this happens!

http://www.entertainmentwise.com/news?id=11298

I checked again and the word is still Spring 2006 on the Season 2 DVD's. However, since the date always gets pushed back I wouldn't get too excited over it just yet. I really hope it does come out this Spring though, we shall see.

That would be so cool! I hope it does get made!

Cool about season 2 still being set for spring release!

mygoodeye
02-22-2006, 10:10 AM
oh good, cant wait for the DVDs. i was lucky my university library had the whole of Twin Peaks on VHS so i was able to see them all. i have episode 9,10 & 11 on VHS too (i think, or could be 8,9,10).

it went a bit downhill after they solved WKLP, but picked back up again right towards the end (i love Lynch's appearances)

i thought of TP straight away when Lost started getting weird, and i thought that we'd get strung along in a similar way and it would end up getting cancelled. i know some people think we're getting too strung along on Lost but they really shouldnt complain:biggrin:

*edited for poor grammer. sometimes i write like a 9 yr old*

BurningStar4
02-22-2006, 03:31 PM
Have any of you guys seen Season 2? It doesn't sound like it.....

RamessesIX
02-22-2006, 04:34 PM
I saw about 10 minutes of one episode of this during its network run. What an acid trip! It was one of the strangest things I'd ever seen on TV, I really didn't know what to make of it.

BurningStar4
02-22-2006, 07:03 PM
:smile: I saw about 10 minutes of one episode of this during its network run. What an acid trip! It was one of the strangest things I'd ever seen on TV, I really didn't know what to make of it.

Haha, yea there are points like that in the show, some supernatural stuff is going on. What part was it? I know the last portion of the last episode of season 2 is so wacked, it scared the crap out of me. There were "doppelgangers" running around through the "Black Lodge" (red curtains, black & white checkered floor, midgit talking backwards)

ClaireFun
02-23-2006, 03:40 AM
Oh I lurved Twin Peaks, I saw every episode religiously when they were aired. I cried when the announcer said that 'next weeks penultimate episode' lol. Ooh and I had posters of Bobby all over my walls, mmm. I do think that if Twin Peaks hadn't of happened there would be no Lost. It allowed a whole new level of weird to be shown as a TV series (rather than just in films). I also think that if Buffy hadn't made 'sci-fi / fantasy' kind of stuff (unrealism?) quite as huge, Lost might well not have been made either. Things pave the way for bigger and better things, you know?

mygoodeye
02-23-2006, 07:55 AM
TP is credited for kick starting alot of programmes, post modern quality prime time drama etc. ive studied it a fair bit form that angle for my uni dissertation.


and yeah, the last ever episode, if i knew my show was going to be cancelled, id make sure id leave a lasting impression like that:biggrin:

Adam Warlock
02-23-2006, 08:12 AM
Have any of you guys seen Season 2? It doesn't sound like it.....

Yeah I have seen every episode (I think) it got shown again a couple of years ago.

mygoodeye
02-23-2006, 08:18 AM
yeah ive seen every episode too (i did say in my post). ive never seen an episode on tv tho, didnt channel 5 run it in the UK the last time?

RamessesIX
02-23-2006, 09:43 AM
:smile:

Haha, yea there are points like that in the show, some supernatural stuff is going on. What part was it? I know the last portion of the last episode of season 2 is so wacked, it scared the crap out of me.
It might have been that one, based on your spoiler. I remember some scary-looking old dude, and someone talking 'oddly' with subtitles. It's all very vague, I just remember thinking, "What drugs do you have to take to come up with something like this?"

BurningStar4
02-23-2006, 03:45 PM
It might have been that one, based on your spoiler. I remember some scary-looking old dude, and someone talking 'oddly' with subtitles. It's all very vague, I just remember thinking, "What drugs do you have to take to come up with something like this?"

Oh, that might have been from Season 1 - when things were a little less scary and more, "what the heck is going on?"

Was there a girl in the room? Both the midgit and the girl talk backwards (like Walt), the old man is really Dale Cooper (an FBI Agent) who is not old, but this is supposedly taking place 25 or so years later. This "dream" sequence gives him clues to help him solve the murder of Laura Palmer (what the show is about). However, this "dream" Cooper has actually becomes a reality later on in the series.

The show is definitely quirky, it starts out fairly normal but it becomes very quirky as time goes on, and that is ultimately what killed the series because a lot of people could not take it except for hard core fans and people who just like quirky things. I think the show is really funny though, it is a different kind of humor though, maybe like the humor in The Princess Bride.

It's David Lynch's creation, and if you are familiar with David Lynch, you would know that almost all of his work seems really out there. He's a really creative guy though, he's definitely unique.

mygoodeye
02-23-2006, 04:06 PM
I think the show is really funny though, it is a different kind of humor though, maybe like the humor in The Princess Bride.



my kind of humour! it frequently had me in stitches, when Dale 'meets' the llama, "firmly squeezed grapefruit", any scene with Albert Rosenfeld...

RamessesIX
02-23-2006, 05:12 PM
Oh, that might have been from Season 1 - when things were a little less scary and more, "what the heck is going on?"

Was there a girl in the room? Both the midgit and the girl talk backwards (like Walt), the old man is really Dale Cooper (an FBI Agent) who is not old, but this is supposedly taking place 25 or so years later. This "dream" sequence gives him clues to help him solve the murder of Laura Palmer (what the show is about). However, this "dream" Cooper has actually becomes a reality later on in the series.

I don't remember if there was a girl in the room, there might have been. This was 15 years or so ago, and I just remember a funny-talking old man with long hair. Or something like that. It could have been a dream sequence, I do remember it being a very unusual setting as well.

The show is definitely quirky, it starts out fairly normal but it becomes very quirky as time goes on, and that is ultimately what killed the series because a lot of people could not take it except for hard core fans and people who just like quirky things. I think the show is really funny though, it is a different kind of humor though, maybe like the humor in The Princess Bride.

Which I still need to rent one of these days! :smile:

ClaireFun
02-24-2006, 06:42 AM
Which I still need to rent one of these days! :smile:

No!! You need to go buy it! It's too fantastic not to own!!!

Sorry, a little over enthusiastic there. But seriously. :biggrin:

miss emme
02-24-2006, 11:55 AM
My girlfriend and I use to watch this show religiously and phone each other after every episode to talk about it. Its been so long I hardly remember anything about the show. I went online and found a website, some of it is under construction, and looked at the characters. That brought back alot of memories.
*apparently that link no longer works*
I wonder if Blockbuster would have it?

edited to remove link

BurningStar4
02-24-2006, 03:31 PM
I ordered the first Season from Blockbuster, along with Fire Walk with Me. I had to buy the pilot and season 2 off ebay though.

Adam Warlock
02-26-2006, 08:51 AM
yeah ive seen every episode too (i did say in my post). ive never seen an episode on tv tho, didnt channel 5 run it in the UK the last time?

I saw it repeated on a cable channel I think.

penyours
02-27-2006, 02:59 AM
I LOVE TWIN PEAKS!!! Lost and Twin Peaks are the only two shows I have ever watched religously and spent so much time thinking about and analyzing. Thanks adam for starting this thread! And I agree that Lost borrowed many elements from Twin Peaks. What are people's thoughts about Kate's Horse and Laura's Mom's Horse? Any connections/ contrasts?

And about the talking in the black lodge, most people remember it being backwards talking but it wasn't - you could understand what they were saying but the timing and intonations sounded really weird and creepy. What they actually did was teach the actors how to say their lines backwards. Then they filmed the actors saying everything backwards. Next they took this film and reversed it so the actors were speaking forwards again. It messed the speech patterns up enough that everything seemed really surreal. Did that make sense?

BurningStar4
02-27-2006, 03:38 AM
I LOVE TWIN PEAKS!!! Lost and Twin Peaks are the only two shows I have ever watched religously and spent so much time thinking about and analyzing. Thanks adam for starting this thread! And I agree that Lost borrowed many elements from Twin Peaks. What are people's thoughts about Kate's Horse and Laura's Mom's Horse? Any connections/ contrasts?

And about the talking in the black lodge, most people remember it being backwards talking but it wasn't - you could understand what they were saying but the timing and intonations sounded really weird and creepy. What they actually did was teach the actors how to say their lines backwards. Then they filmed the actors saying everything backwards. Next they took this film and reversed it so the actors were speaking forwards again. It messed the speech patterns up enough that everything seemed really surreal. Did that make sense?

Yes it makes sense, I've heard of that before about Twin Peaks, still it seems like they are talking backwards, I think that was sort of the point, but wanted to make it sound distorted. Anyway, Walt sounds like those guys, I don't think we would have known what they were saying either except the show was kind enough to give subtitles, haha.

The second I saw Kate's black horse I yelled at the TV, "TWIN PEAKS!" haha. I don't know if there is any significance between the two, I don't really feel the represented the same thing.

penyours
02-27-2006, 04:28 AM
Yes it makes sense, I've heard of that before about Twin Peaks, still it seems like they are talking backwards, I think that was sort of the point, but wanted to make it sound distorted. Anyway, Walt sounds like those guys, I don't think we would have known what they were saying either except the show was kind enough to give subtitles, haha.

The second I saw Kate's black horse I yelled at the TV, "TWIN PEAKS!" haha. I don't know if there is any significance between the two, I don't really feel the represented the same thing.
LOL I did the same thing when they first showed the horse :biggrin: I threw the question out there because I wasn't sure if there was any connection, aside from the visuals. The interpretation I like about the white horse in TP is that it's a symbol for drugs and was used to show how white-haired dude drugged Laura's mom so she wouldn't really realise what was going on in the house.

And OMG I just read your signature. I used to love Clue when I was younger. I must have wached it atleast 50 times as a kid. I definitely wore out one VHS tape for sure!

mygoodeye
02-27-2006, 05:41 PM
yeah it was forwards backwards talking, did they subtitle it too?

damn, i cant rememebr any horse in TP, which episode was it in?

penyours
02-27-2006, 07:05 PM
yeah it was forwards backwards talking, did they subtitle it too?

damn, i cant rememebr any horse in TP, which episode was it in?

I think I remember subtitles. I don't remember the exact episode for horse TP scene. Not sure how many scenes of the horse there were, but there is definitely one where Laura's mom is in the living room of her house and she looks all drugged and spaced out. Then next shot is from her viewpoint looking at the living room, you can see the fireplace on the lefthand side and the window in the background, then this big white horse appears and just stands there. i think there's a horse scene in the Fire Walk with Me movie as well. Damn I wish the internet was bigger back then, Just imagine if we had a whole twin peaks site as big as the fuselage! :biggrin:

Actually are there many twin peaks forums on the internet these days? I 've never actually thought to look.

BurningStar4
02-28-2006, 12:16 AM
I also think the horse appears sometime around when we discover that Leland is BOB. But with so many episodes its hard to remember.

penyours
02-28-2006, 12:24 AM
I also think the horse appears sometime around when we discover that Leland is BOB. But with so many episodes its hard to remember.

Yeah, I think a lot of my twin peaks conversations lately have been filled with sentences like "I think I remember", "I can't quite recall" so many of us watched it so long ago. If we were posting right after watching the episodes there would be all sorts of crazy idea and theories. My friend recommended this really great book that was written outlining a bunch of solid theories, I think I'm going to have to pick up that book sometime and rewatch the episodes.

BurningStar4
02-28-2006, 03:13 AM
Yeah, I think a lot of my twin peaks conversations lately have been filled with sentences like "I think I remember", "I can't quite recall" so many of us watched it so long ago. If we were posting right after watching the episodes there would be all sorts of crazy idea and theories. My friend recommended this really great book that was written outlining a bunch of solid theories, I think I'm going to have to pick up that book sometime and rewatch the episodes.

I've read a few theories online for free :p

I actually got into the show kind of recently, within the past few years once Season 1 came out on DVD. I recently rewatched the series maybe about 3 or 4 months ago, but even then I can't remember all the details, like when the white horse appeared. I think it is hard to give the show one distinct theory, David Lynch is very ambiguous with his work so I think everything can mean many things, and in the end, he wants you to interpret what you think is going on, even he can't explain what he is producing or attach one meaning to it, lol.

penyours
02-28-2006, 04:51 AM
I've read a few theories online for free :p

Have you read anything interesting or perhaps amusing!

David Lynch is very ambiguous with his work so I think everything can mean many things, and in the end, he wants you to interpret what you think is going on, even he can't explain what he is producing or attach one meaning to it, lol.

This is exactly why it would have been great to have a fuselage style forum when Twin Peaks first started, you would have been able to read so many thoughts from thousands of people. Before season 2 of Lost started, I was considering not watching the show on TV, but instead waiting for the DVD's. The reason I didn't do that was because I would have missed out on all the forum activity and insights!

BurningStar4
02-28-2006, 03:20 PM
I actually can't remember the theories I have read, they're very detailed, of course. If you do a google search for Twin Peaks, there are a few websites I know that have theories on there, and I think that is where I read them.

mygoodeye
03-01-2006, 08:58 AM
ahah, i remember the horse now:smile: i thought the horse thing in Lost was particularly odd, odd for oddness sake, not anything significant.

ive read the 'full of secrets' book, its not so much about theories, more academic - feminist readings, the importance of the music etc

Adam Warlock
03-01-2006, 01:49 PM
I also think the horse appears sometime around when we discover that Leland is BOB. But with so many episodes its hard to remember.

That sounds about right to me but it has been ages since I saw the whole thing so I'm not 100% sure.

I don't think it was that Leland was Bob only that Bob had been using his body, remember what happened to Agent Cooper at the end. Also the letters placed under the murdered girls fingernails was obviously a signature from numerous other murders Bob had comitted.

When you start to analyse that aspect of the show it get realy complicated as it's never realy explained if Bob abilities had any limits. After all Agent Cooper was a talented psycic and he wasn't a match for Bob. Maybe if the second film gets made it will shed more light on this (let's hope so anyway).

BurningStar4
03-01-2006, 03:03 PM
Yea, I know BOB is like an evil spirit who travels body to body, but he seemed to inhabit Leland for an awful long time. I was really sad at the end of the show when Cooper had obtained BOB's spirit, just because he is such a good person and was the best character on the show, in my opinion. The first time we ever saw BOB though hiding in Laura's room where her mother remembered seeing him, scared the crap out of me. BOB is like the scariest boogeyman ever!

miss emme
03-01-2006, 10:00 PM
wasn't there something about seeing him in a mirror??

BurningStar4
03-02-2006, 12:32 AM
Leland looked in the mirror and saw BOB, I think Cooper did too at the end, but I can't remember.

penyours
03-02-2006, 12:49 AM
Maybe if the second film gets made it will shed more light on this (let's hope so anyway).

A second movie? What's this about?

Yea, I know BOB is like an evil spirit who travels body to body, but he seemed to inhabit Leland for an awful long time. I was really sad at the end of the show when Cooper had obtained BOB's spirit, just because he is such a good person and was the best character on the show, in my opinion. The first time we ever saw BOB though hiding in Laura's room where her mother remembered seeing him, scared the crap out of me. BOB is like the scariest boogeyman ever!

Was BOB inside Leland the whole series, including the prequel, or did he just jump in and out of Leland's body whenever he felt like it? And yes BOB was FREAKY, when I was younger I could never go down into my parents' unfinished basement because of BOB.

Michaud
03-02-2006, 05:54 AM
Leland looked in the mirror and saw BOB, I think Cooper did too at the end, but I can't remember.

You're quite right. Cooper was possessed by Bob at the end of the series, and you saw Bob when Cooper looked in the mirror.

Now my memory is going - Did David Duchovny (Dennis/Denise) look into the mirror and see Bob next to him? That may simply be my hazy recollection.
M

BurningStar4
03-02-2006, 09:15 AM
Penyours, I can't remember if BOB was in Leland the whole series or if he was jumping in and out, someone else may though. But I am pretty sure he was sort of always around, because he was molesting Laura as a child, and Leland wasn't the one really molesting her it was BOB, so I think he was sort of always there or at least would jump in and out often. But again someone else may be able to clear this up instead of me, I can't remember.

Michaud, I can't remember that happening with David's character so I am going with a "no". I think he only saw a woman when looking into the mirror ;)

Michaud
03-02-2006, 09:26 AM
Michaud, I can't remember that happening with David's character so I am going with a "no". I think he only saw a woman when looking into the mirror ;)

I think you're right BurningStar. I have this vivid recollection of him in front of the mirror now, with his Denise alter-ego looking back at him.

I really need to watch it on DVD again, althoguh Duchovny was 2nd Season wasn't he? Hmmmm.... don't know if that season is going to be released on DVD.

mygoodeye
03-02-2006, 10:58 AM
I think you're right BurningStar. I have this vivid recollection of him in front of the mirror now, with his Denise alter-ego looking back at him.

I really need to watch it on DVD again, althoguh Cuchovny was 2nd Season wasn't he? Hmmmm.... don't know if that season is going to be released on DVD.

yeah he was in season 2. whats the betting if it does come out on DVD itll be america only...not that that stops me from importing DVDs anyway

penyours
03-02-2006, 01:40 PM
yeah he was in season 2. whats the betting if it does come out on DVD itll be america only...not that that stops me from importing DVDs anyway

I was actually expecting it to be released in France first, if it ever is released.

BurningStar4
03-02-2006, 04:22 PM
I think you're right BurningStar. I have this vivid recollection of him in front of the mirror now, with his Denise alter-ego looking back at him.

I really need to watch it on DVD again, althoguh Cuchovny was 2nd Season wasn't he? Hmmmm.... don't know if that season is going to be released on DVD.

I really don't think that happened, and if it did he was already dressed as Denise. I was kind of joking when I said that. I don't ever remember David looking into a mirror and seeing someone other than himself/herself.

Michaud
03-02-2006, 05:59 PM
Thanks for correcting me BurningStar4. I really need that second season to be released. :(

penyours
03-02-2006, 06:11 PM
Thanks for correcting me BurningStar4. I really need that second season to be released. :(

Oh I just remembered the last time I checked they were going to split season 2 in two seperate dvd boxes that would be released at seperate times. I hope they are no longer doing this, considering how long it has been.

Michaud
03-02-2006, 06:20 PM
Thing is, over here they'll probably release the two seperate packages, and then later down the line release a single box set. They did that with Lost... but luckily I'd got the US Season 1 already and chosen not to go for the seperate UK releases... :18:

<<<<<<<< :63: for it to be released lol

BurningStar4
03-02-2006, 06:40 PM
I have Season 2 of Twin Peaks - You can get the Spanish release on Ebay, it is in English it was just released in Spain for a short while.

Michaud
03-03-2006, 05:49 PM
Just found it there, so thank you BurningStar. :) It's like 'The Kingdom' by Lars von Trier. They never released season 2 over here - you have to import from Denmark.

Maternity Leave made me think of Twin Peaks, but only superficially. Claire's flashback in the nursery brought to mind Cooper's dreams in that 'strange fantasy land' kind of way.

BurningStar4
03-03-2006, 11:13 PM
If you buy the Spanish release just note that the quality is not that great for a DVD, it is probably the quality of a VHS. Still, you adjust to it after a few episodes and it comes to look normal after a while.

Michaud
03-04-2006, 05:47 AM
I did wonder about that BS4 - I saw a lot of them on eBay, and wasn't sure whether they were bootlegs or not. I really don't like buying that sort of thing. I may wait for a little bit just to see if they plan on bringing out season 2 on good quality DVDs before investing.
M

BurningStar4
03-04-2006, 12:36 PM
Well they aren't bootlegs. It officially came out in Spain, it's just that the quality isn't the greatest. It was a good thing to buy since Season 2 isn't out yet and there is really no official date set, just rumors. You can always buy them and if you're not happy sell them back on E-Bay....They are always getting bought on there.

Just A Button
03-05-2006, 01:48 PM
hey guys! another Twin Peaks fan here! *waves*
the first time I saw it was three years ago, and I really love it. now that I know Lost I wish that I could have watched TP when it aired the first time, the feelings and the obsession and all would have been quite similar for me I think. and I hope they finally release Season 2, I enjoyed the Season 1 box with all the extras very much :smile:

jess42
03-07-2006, 11:14 PM
Loved Twin Peaks, my favorite character was David Ducovney in drag... what was his/her name?

BurningStar4
03-08-2006, 01:39 AM
Denise was the transgender David, I can't remember what the male character name was though. Agent something.

miss emme
03-08-2006, 02:28 AM
imdb says Davids characters name was FBI agent Dennis/Denise Bryson

penyours
03-10-2006, 02:52 PM
Maternity Leave made me think of Twin Peaks, but only superficially. Claire's flashback in the nursery brought to mind Cooper's dreams in that 'strange fantasy land' kind of way.

I had very similar feelings about maternity leave, there really was a surreal feeling to several of the scenes. When Claire is in the medical bunker, esepcially in the nursery, I felt there was a similar eery almost confined and clasterphobic feeling I get when I watch the black lodge scenes. And of course the scene where Claire is watching her own flashback and 2 images of Claire are on the screen at the same time is vaguely reminiscent of the dopplegangers in TP - since the drugged Claire is really into Ethan while the Claire looking on is repulsed by Ethan.

Michaud
03-11-2006, 11:58 AM
I had very similar feelings about maternity leave, there really was a surreal feeling to several of the scenes. When Claire is in the medical bunker, esepcially in the nursery, I felt there was a similar eery almost confined and clasterphobic feeling I get when I watch the black lodge scenes. And of course the scene where Claire is watching her own flashback and 2 images of Claire are on the screen at the same time is vaguely reminiscent of the dopplegangers in TP - since the drugged Claire is really into Ethan while the Claire looking on is repulsed by Ethan.

Exactly my thoughts penyours. It would be nice to think that those kinds of scenes are still influenced by TP... that we are still seeing Lynch's genius being emulated in some way today.
M

LostIslandBaby
03-20-2006, 09:50 PM
I loved Twin Peaks too! I was in high school when it was aired on ABC and would watch it religiously. I recently googled Twin Peaks and clicked on one of the sites that came up. I had forgotten that one of the characters was named Big Ed Hurley. I immediately thought of Jorge Garcia's character, Hugo Reyes, AKA Hurley. I really can't wait to find out how he came to be nicknamed Hurley. I thought his nick might be a nod to Twin Peaks since there are so many of those scattered thoughtout Lost episodes. What other similarities can you guys think of?

hellokitschy
03-20-2006, 10:01 PM
Hi guys! I love Twin Peaks, watched it on TV when I was a senior in high school (showing my age)! I bought the entire show as a box set on VHS when it originally came out...My friends and I would have Twin Peaks weekends in college and would watch the whole thing, plus the pilot and the movie and all dress up as characters (the best was the traffic light!) and we would not sleep, just watch the show! Of course, someone borrowed that box set about five years ago and then disappeared from the face of the earth, and now all you can get is season one on DVD; I've been searching and waiting for the season 2 DVDs for years, so frustrating!!!

I loooove all things Twin Peaks! Sorry for the geeky enthusiasm for finding this thread!

LostIslandBaby
03-21-2006, 01:44 AM
I thought of another similarity: the one-armed man from TP and several characters with one limb in Lost, i.e. Marvin Candle, the Aussie farmer, and Sam Toomey's wife.

penyours
03-24-2006, 04:33 AM
I thought of another similarity: the one-armed man from TP and several characters with one limb in Lost, i.e. Marvin Candle, the Aussie farmer, and Sam Toomey's wife.
Oh yeah, I forgot about the one armed man. That's a good one to point out. Montand also lost his arm. Not sure if it directly applies ot Lost but the one armed man used to be Bob's friend and was quite evil. At some point he turns good and lost his arm. And then the arm became the evil dancing man from another place.

hellokitschy
03-24-2006, 10:16 AM
Yes, he cut off his arm because of the tattoo there that he and Bob shared, which he thought was part of their evilness...

penyours
03-24-2006, 07:03 PM
Exactly my thoughts penyours. It would be nice to think that those kinds of scenes are still influenced by TP... that we are still seeing Lynch's genius being emulated in some way today.
M
Actually I wonder if TPTB have ever commented about Twin Peaks/Lynch or if they've ever been asked about the show in an interview.
100%
Yes, he cut off his arm because of the tattoo there that he and Bob shared, which he thought was part of their evilness...
Hmm this could be stretching it but we know Marvin Candle works for Dharma and there's been some speculation that Toomey's wife and the Aussie farmer were connected to Dharma. Perhaps the Lost producers have made the opposite decision of Twin Peaks and people who have lost their limbs are somehow more evil and are influenced by Dharma. Just a stab in the dark :smile:

LostIslandBaby
03-24-2006, 07:51 PM
I totally forgot about the reasons he became the one-armed man. I bet a one-eyed jack (one-eyed guy) will pop up somewhere on the island too!

Michaud
03-24-2006, 08:40 PM
Actually I wonder if TPTB have ever commented about Twin Peaks/Lynch or if they've ever been asked about the show in an interview.

I've never heard or seen them say anything. Will definitely keep an eye and ear out though.

M

penyours
03-24-2006, 08:43 PM
I totally forgot about the reasons he became the one-armed man. I bet a one-eyed jack (one-eyed guy) will pop up somewhere on the island too!
Well there is that glass eye floating about, so I think you'll win that bet! :smile: And a lot of people mention that the cop in Boone's flashback had a glass eye as well!

Michaud
03-24-2006, 08:59 PM
Well there is that glass eye floating about, so I think you'll win that bet! :smile: And a lot of people mention that the cop in Boone's flashback had a glass eye as well!

I've seen it suggested on the Lage that Gale has a glass eye, but I think it was dismissed, and put down to simply being the way he looks at people

Locke's 'loss of limbs' could be another one penyours

hellokitschy
03-24-2006, 09:44 PM
I think the Losties may find a brothel near Henry's balloon; Sawyer would sure be happy :p

penyours
03-24-2006, 11:27 PM
I've seen it suggested on the Lage that Gale has a glass eye, but I think it was dismissed, and put down to simply being the way he looks at people


yeah, I personally don;t believe he is the person with the glass eye, my hunch is the one-eyed jack won't show up for a while.


Locke's 'loss of limbs' could be another one penyours

Oh yeah that's right, and he felt he had to sacrifice Boone to get the use of his legs back.


I think the Losties may find a brothel near Henry's balloon; Sawyer would sure be happy :p

I would only want to see that if Audrey made an appearance on the show, Sherilyn Fenn deserves some more tv roles :biggrin:

hellokitschy
03-25-2006, 11:13 AM
Then Charlie would have a friend in the strung-out brother mistress...what was her name???!!!

LostIslandBaby
03-25-2006, 12:07 PM
Then Charlie would have a friend in the strung-out brother mistress...what was her name???!!!

Theresa?

hellokitschy
03-25-2006, 03:14 PM
Blackie! That was her name.

Blackie and Charlie sitting in a tree s-h-o-o-t-ing! Ha ha!

RaverDave
03-27-2006, 07:35 AM
I'll give you another similarity:- The Black & White Lodges may correspond to the Swan and Cademus hatches

And another, i was just surfing Twin Peaks websites and i came across this little quote from the TV series
'Agent Cooper, I am thrilled to pieces that the Dharma came to Hohoho, I
really am.''

It's from http://www.interstate95.com/twinpeaks/index.php
Coincidence or intentional?

penyours
03-27-2006, 03:13 PM
I'll give you another similarity:- The Black & White Lodges may correspond to the Swan and Cademus hatches
RaverDave, I was just thinking about this yesterday as well. My thoughts weren't as specific as yours. I was thinking that the hatches in general were like the black lodge because they were these secret places hidden in the forest/jungle. And that you needed to find that one spot where you could enter.

Can you elaborate how you think one of the hatches is like the white lodge. What were the characteristic of the white lodge again, was it the same place as the black lodge? I can't remember myself.


And another, i was just surfing Twin Peaks websites and i came across this little quote from the TV series
'Agent Cooper, I am thrilled to pieces that the Dharma came to Hohoho, I
really am.''

It's from http://www.interstate95.com/twinpeaks/index.php
Coincidence or intentional?
Good find :smile: Any idea what scene this is from or what context it is being said?

hellokitschy
03-27-2006, 07:25 PM
I think that thE Black Lodge was the dark, backwards home of Bob and the bad guys, where Cooper had to go on the last episode, and where they took over his body. I don't think that the White Lodge was the exact opposite, but it has the connotation of good vs. evil.

Does anyone remember which lodge was the one in Coop's dreams, with Laura and the dwarf?

Geez, I should totally remember all of this stuff, I must go out and find some copies of this show, post haste!

BurningStar4
03-27-2006, 09:37 PM
The lodge in Cooper's dream was the Black Lodge.

Michaud
03-28-2006, 08:12 AM
I'll give you another similarity:- The Black & White Lodges may correspond to the Swan and Cademus hatches

And another, i was just surfing Twin Peaks websites and i came across this little quote from the TV series
'Agent Cooper, I am thrilled to pieces that the Dharma came to Hohoho, I
really am.''

It's from http://www.interstate95.com/twinpeaks/index.php
Coincidence or intentional?

Great spot RD. Can you remember what that quote was in reference to?

RaverDave
03-29-2006, 08:14 AM
I've no idea where the quote's from i'm afraid, it was purely by chance that i found it when i was looking a some TP websites.
With regards to the hatches i thought that the Swan Hatch might be simliar to the Black Lodge becuase it's a kinda dark, mysterious and possibly dangerous place while the Cademuos Hatch is similiar to the White Lodge because it's bright, open and seems fairly safe ( i might be wrong with this, it's been a long time since i saw TP and i can't really remember what the white lodge was like). Mainly it's just the idea that there are two secret places in the forest, which are opposed to each other, one 'light' and the other 'dark'

Michaud
03-29-2006, 01:01 PM
I've no idea where the quote's from i'm afraid, it was purely by chance that i found it when i was looking a some TP websites.

No worries RD.

With regards to the hatches i thought that the Swan Hatch might be simliar to the Black Lodge becuase it's a kinda dark, mysterious and possibly dangerous place while the Cademuos Hatch is similiar to the White Lodge because it's bright, open and seems fairly safe ( i might be wrong with this, it's been a long time since i saw TP and i can't really remember what the white lodge was like). Mainly it's just the idea that there are two secret places in the forest, which are opposed to each other, one 'light' and the other 'dark'

Interesting thinking. A balance in the Hatches, in the same way that there's a balance between Light and Dark.

Weren't the White and Black lodges occupying the same 'space' in TP? Or was it that the White Lodge was Twin Peaks? Oh I'm confused. I need to refresh myself on TP a bit more.

hellokitschy
03-29-2006, 01:51 PM
I'm with you, Michaud. I can't recall what the White Lodge actually was, and I hang my head in shame for admitting that. Ten years ago I would've been able to recite the entire series!

LostIslandBaby
03-29-2006, 09:00 PM
I want to know when season two will come out on DVD? That way, I can refresh my memory! :))

penyours
03-30-2006, 06:26 AM
Weren't the White and Black lodges occupying the same 'space' in TP? Or was it that the White Lodge was Twin Peaks?

This is what I remember a friend of mine telling me once. He was a hardcore TP fans and could literally recite any line or any fact from the show off the top of his head. This concept also works in Lost since the writers like pointing out how everyone is a combination of light and dark. The hatches could be the white lodge or black lodge depending on who's perspective it's from.

Necrite98
03-31-2006, 10:17 PM
Hey everyone! Another HUGE Twin Peaks fan here. Huge David Lynch fan as a matter of fact. He is nothing short of a genius.

Season two is currently being worked on by Paramount who now owns the rights after they lapsed from ownership by Artisan (the original owners.) Paramount is currently planning to release Season 2 on DVD, but not until David Lynch can personally oversee the transfer of the footage from the originals in order to ensure that the quality is top notch. Anyone familiar with Lynch knows that he demands perfection. The current expected release date for the set(s) is November 2006.

The website http://www.dugpa.com/ has great continuing coverage on the Twin Peaks DVD fiasco.

hellokitschy
03-31-2006, 10:59 PM
Necrite, fiasco is definitely the right word, LOL!

BurningStar4
04-01-2006, 05:41 AM
Hey everyone! Another HUGE Twin Peaks fan here. Huge David Lynch fan as a matter of fact. He is nothing short of a genius.

Season two is currently being worked on by Paramount who now owns the rights after they lapsed from ownership by Artisan (the original owners.) Paramount is currently planning to release Season 2 on DVD, but not until David Lynch can personally oversee the transfer of the footage from the originals in order to ensure that the quality is top notch. Anyone familiar with Lynch knows that he demands perfection. The current expected release date for the set(s) is November 2006.

The website http://www.dugpa.com/ has great continuing coverage on the Twin Peaks DVD fiasco.

Keep your fingers crossed, that date is always changing. It was only around X-mas time or so ago that it was supposed to be released in the spring of 2006

hellokitschy
04-01-2006, 09:38 AM
I thought that release date was European only?

mygoodeye
04-01-2006, 10:40 AM
i think the black and white lodge were the same thing, wasnt there some sort of weird thing Coop had to do to get to the black lodge, a sort of ceremony? :confused: im really reaching into the memory vaults here to.

thanks for the info on whats going on with the DVD release, Necrite98

Necrite98
04-01-2006, 01:13 PM
Yeah, I know the date change has been a mystery since 2001 when the season one DVDs came out. I've been following it very closely ever since. I will keep you guys updated anytime I hear something.

I get a good feeling about the November date.

The big problem that has kept things up, has been the rights to the show. Artisan owned them back in 2001, and did a stellar job on the DVDs, which were very expensive for them to produce, and really you might be surprised because TP has such a rabid fan base, but they didn't sell well enough to make much of a profit.

Then, Artisan knew that their catalogue would be getting bought out and that made a release unlikely because sinking that much money into a risky project right before someone comes to buy you out seemed silly.

Now that Paramount owns it, I think they are committed to releasing it. What makes me very pleased as a fan though is that they want to make a set that is on par or better than the season one box. They want to have Lynch work on the transfers himself so that it looks amazing.

I am very excited about this. Can you tell?

LostIslandBaby
04-01-2006, 01:32 PM
That would be very exciting! Lost and Twin Peaks are the only television shows I can get excited about. I did get into Dark Shadows, though, too. Both the 70's and the 90's versions.

penyours
04-02-2006, 04:04 AM
The website http://www.dugpa.com/ has great continuing coverage on the Twin Peaks DVD fiasco.

Oh yes dugpa.com, I used to check that site every few weeks waiting for a season 2 DVD announcement, it dragged on for so long that eventually I started losing hope and stopped looking there. Hey is there any news on the deleted scenes from Fire Walk with Me?

BurningStar4
04-02-2006, 05:59 AM
i think the black and white lodge were the same thing, wasnt there some sort of weird thing Coop had to do to get to the black lodge, a sort of ceremony? :confused: im really reaching into the memory vaults here to.

thanks for the info on whats going on with the DVD release, Necrite98

I think it was something to that effect. I can't remember though, it has been a while since I've watched the second season. I can't remember if its mentioned in Fire Walk With Me....I'll have to rewatch it soon.

Michaud
04-02-2006, 02:29 PM
Thanks for the info Necrite98.

I really need to watch Season 1 again soon BurningStar4. All this talk is fuelling that need.

Just A Button
04-02-2006, 04:15 PM
Necrite thanks for the info! I must admit I almost lost hope for a season 2 release.... set let us keep our fingers crossed for November!

Necrite98
04-02-2006, 04:16 PM
All I know about the Twin Peaks Fire Walk With Me deleted scenes is that there are petitions online to get them put back in and released. I've never seen them and would love to. I think I signed an online petition some years ago.

penyours
04-02-2006, 06:37 PM
All I know about the Twin Peaks Fire Walk With Me deleted scenes is that there are petitions online to get them put back in and released. I've never seen them and would love to. I think I signed an online petition some years ago.
yeah, the last I remember they were thinking of putting them in a french special edition DVD release, but it was really tenetative. There's actually screen caps of a few of the deleted scenes on the internet somewhere (I think I saw them on dugpa or it could have been a link to another site) The only one I remember is a picture of some guy (not one of the main characters) in a boxing pose

mygoodeye
04-03-2006, 08:12 AM
hey who remember's Coop's joke form one of the very last episodes:

two penguins are walking across the ice flow and one turns to the other and says, "it looks like you're wearing a tuxedo"
and the other one replies, "Maybe I am"

:biggrin: i iused to tell that joke all the time, to really really bemused people

penyours
04-05-2006, 01:36 AM
hey who remember's Coop's joke form one of the very last episodes:

two penguins are walking across the ice flow and one turns to the other and says, "it looks like you're wearing a tuxedo"
and the other one replies, "Maybe I am"

:biggrin: i iused to tell that joke all the time, to really really bemused people

hehe, yeah that's pretty much the reaction I think most people would have to agent cooper and his 'cooperism'

LostIslandBaby
04-21-2006, 04:27 PM
I just read a response by Gregg Nations, in which he admits to having been a fan of Twin Peaks. Here is the link.

Gregg Nations Response on the Fuselage (http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?p=930297#post930297)

mygoodeye
04-21-2006, 05:56 PM
cheers for the link. i should really check the creators section more often...true what he said about TP tho. apparently if Lynch had had his way the murder wouldve never been resolved. wouldve been interesting to see but ive no idea who he couldve pulled it off. too experimental for prime time.

the episode just after they solved the murder is the worst, Cooper goes fishing or something, generally inventing excuses for him to stick around till they decide what should be done next.

i was never a fan of the Catherine Martell/ Benjamin Horne storyline, or anything to do with Josie - irritated the hell outa me. just wanted to know what was up with them owls.:eek2:

Little T
04-21-2006, 11:26 PM
Another TP fan here. It was about 12 years ago, I was working at a movie theater, deeply obsessed with The X Files and David Duchovny. My supervisor was a huge XF fan as well and told me that DD played a transvestite on TP........and that is something that I had to see. He had recorded all of the TP and lent me the tapes. I loved it, my sister and I watched the whole series together and ended up buy the entire series on tape, we split the cost. Still don't have any of the DVDs but I plan to own them soon.

BurningStar4
04-22-2006, 05:45 AM
The series definitely took a down hill turn after the murder was solved but I think it did start to gain some more momentum towards the end. One of the worst storylines though I think ever written for that show was when James went disappearing and ended up staying at that woman's home and had a fling with her, but it was all her husband or brothers idea, I can't remember exactly. It was just idiotic, boring, and completely pointless!

LostIslandBaby
04-22-2006, 09:33 AM
That's too funny. Well, speaking of what we remember from the show, Nadine's affair with the jock guy comes to mind. There were some really funny/outrageous plotlines, when you think about it:D

hellokitschy
04-22-2006, 10:20 AM
The series definitely took a down hill turn after the murder was solved but I think it did start to gain some more momentum towards the end. One of the worst storylines though I think ever written for that show was when James went disappearing and ended up staying at that woman's home and had a fling with her, but it was all her husband or brothers idea, I can't remember exactly. It was just idiotic, boring, and completely pointless!

Ooh! I have to agree with you there. James worked as the "mechanic" fixing up all of her rich husband's cars, and I think the plot was to lure him into an affair with her, and then she was going to sabotage one of his cars (with the help fo her real lover?) and then pin the murder on James and collect on the huge inheritance and split town. She picked him up in some biker bar too, and it was like, why the h*** is this rich lady hanging out in the local country biker joint? That was L-A-M-E! Just another excuse to put James in a wife beater and rub a little grease on his face! (which wasn't too bad :naughty: )

mygoodeye
04-22-2006, 10:40 AM
The series definitely took a down hill turn after the murder was solved but I think it did start to gain some more momentum towards the end. One of the worst storylines though I think ever written for that show was when James went disappearing and ended up staying at that woman's home and had a fling with her, but it was all her husband or brothers idea, I can't remember exactly. It was just idiotic, boring, and completely pointless!

oh god. i forgot about that ole story line. cheers for reminding me [/sarcasm] heheh. James was generally awful. but at least you could laugh at how awful he was. and the song...the song....

hellokitschy
04-22-2006, 11:46 AM
Oh, gawd! You mean the song that he and Donna sang together? Or am I thinking of the wrong girl? It was a duet wasn't it? Or did he just serenade a girl? Either way, I do remember it totally sucking!

mygoodeye
04-22-2006, 06:09 PM
Oh, gawd! You mean the song that he and Donna sang together? Or am I thinking of the wrong girl? It was a duet wasn't it? Or did he just serenade a girl? Either way, I do remember it totally sucking!

yeah him, Donna and Maddie yaaarrrrggghhh. it was called 'You and I', how imaginative, and vomit producing. there sued to be a good Twin Peaks humour site on the net, alas tis no more, but it took the mick out of James alot

twinpeaks.org has a link to alot of archive material about Twin Peaks, including some elaborate fan theories, if anyone's interested

BurningStar4
04-23-2006, 02:51 AM
Oh my God, that song was so awful!!

penyours
04-23-2006, 03:23 AM
'I just read a response by Gregg Nations, in which he admits to having been a fan of Twin Peaks. Here is the link.

Gregg Nations Response on the Fuselage (http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?p=930297#post930297)

thanks for the link! sounds like they really learned from Twin Peaks' mistakes and hopefully they'll make sure Lost doesn't follow the same path.

oh god. i forgot about that ole story line. cheers for reminding me [/sarcasm] heheh. James was generally awful. but at least you could laugh at how awful he was. and the song...the song....

yeah, he was such a goof, I think his face was frozen with that one blank/confused facial expression the entire show! :biggrin: A friend of mine used to love it though and found it to be ironic teenage angst.

Oh and I always thought James looked like Corey Hart.

mygoodeye
04-23-2006, 07:59 AM
oh yeah no doubt his character was just a big ironic joke, how postmodern...:rolleyes:

speakign of which, ive been trying to decide if Lost is postmodern or not. *puts university thinking frown on*

hellokitschy
04-23-2006, 03:21 PM
So maybe if Lost "jumps the shark" we can look forward to a Sawyer, Jack, and Kate jam session on the beach?

penyours
04-23-2006, 05:05 PM
oh yeah no doubt his character was just a big ironic joke, how postmodern...:rolleyes:

speakign of which, ive been trying to decide if Lost is postmodern or not. *puts university thinking frown on*

Oh that's takes a bit more thought, it's certainly doesn't have that obvious form of post-modernism like many movies these days (like scary movie or all those cool ironic indie hipster flicks) but it does reference lots of things and I feel the show is becoming more reactionary to our responses on this board. What do people think of the Dave episode.


So maybe if Lost "jumps the shark" we can look forward to a Sawyer, Jack, and Kate jam session on the beach?

wow I can't wait for that episode maybe Geronimo Jackson will play with them! :biggrin:

mygoodeye
04-24-2006, 07:59 AM
Oh that's takes a bit more thought, it's certainly doesn't have that obvious form of post-modernism like many movies these days (like scary movie or all those cool ironic indie hipster flicks) but it does reference lots of things and I feel the show is becoming more reactionary to our responses on this board. What do people think of the Dave episode.



i agree about Dave being a response to the boards, i even put that in my dissertation. Lost does have some post-modern elements, but i think Locke's faith and quest for the truth is definitely anti-postmodern.

penyours
04-24-2006, 06:05 PM
i agree about Dave being a response to the boards, i even put that in my dissertation. Lost does have some post-modern elements, but i think Locke's faith and quest for the truth is definitely anti-postmodern.

yeah that's true, but I think Locke's story still has a long way to go and it could shift depending on what we or locke find out. In the end I think it depends how that quest turns out though, and how it fits into the entire story. What's your dissertation about exactly?

hellokitschy
04-24-2006, 09:46 PM
Anti-postmodernism? Wow, I've never thought quite that much about the show...I mean, I've certainly spent a lot of time thinking about it, but not in those terms. Interesting...I'd like to hear more!

mygoodeye
04-25-2006, 07:45 AM
yeah that's true, but I think Locke's story still has a long way to go and it could shift depending on what we or locke find out. In the end I think it depends how that quest turns out though, and how it fits into the entire story. What's your dissertation about exactly?
4 chapters (mostly Lost, but Twin Peaks and the X-Files as previous examples):
1st - defining Lost as cult tv (that includes the postmodern/ anti-pm elements)
2nd - dialogue between Lost fans and producers, increasing symbiosis of the two
3rd - the fan detective and modern technology, that includes some about your 'whispers', hope you dont mind, 'tivo moments'
4th - industry assimilation of fans, Lost as a new media model

it gets handed in on friday:eek2: after 8 months of work

yeah we'll have to see how Locke's story eventually pans out, if he looses his faith, if there is no meta-narrative. but i think if that happens fans will feel cheated.

BurningStar4
04-25-2006, 05:34 PM
Good luck on your dissertation, I've heard those take a lot of work, etc.

hellokitschy
04-25-2006, 06:02 PM
4 chapters (mostly Lost, but Twin Peaks and the X-Files as previous examples):
1st - defining Lost as cult tv (that includes the postmodern/ anti-pm elements)
2nd - dialogue between Lost fans and producers, increasing symbiosis of the two
3rd - the fan detective and modern technology, that includes some about your 'whispers', hope you dont mind, 'tivo moments'
4th - industry assimilation of fans, Lost as a new media model

it gets handed in on friday:eek2: after 8 months of work

yeah we'll have to see how Locke's story eventually pans out, if he looses his faith, if there is no meta-narrative. but i think if that happens fans will feel cheated.

Sounds really interesting, I'd love to read it! I feel lame; mine was just a book of poetry, sounds like you had to do much more work!

penyours
04-25-2006, 08:37 PM
Sounds really interesting! And of course I don't mind having the whispers in there. Hope everything goes well and if possible I'd like to read it as well!

mygoodeye
04-26-2006, 08:32 AM
heh cant wait to hand it in finally, its been driving me crazy, but at least it hasnt put me off watching Lost. i dont think i couldve applied myself as much if i wasnt writing about something i love. will be glad of the summer break after the end of season 2 tho:redface:

Michaud
05-03-2006, 04:34 PM
That sounds really interesting mygoodeye. Be sure to let us know the how it goes once you've handed it in.
M

mygoodeye
05-05-2006, 05:00 AM
i handed it in last friday, so ill try and get it pasted up onto the net.

ladymacgyver
05-05-2006, 07:09 PM
I watched this show with my sister, on tape, years ago, it sure was good and creepy! We even quote it still from time to time!
"WRAAAAAPPED IN PLAAAAASTIC!!" :eek2:

penyours
05-06-2006, 05:26 AM
i handed it in last friday, so ill try and get it pasted up onto the net.

that's great! Can't wait to read it :)

I watched this show with my sister, on tape, years ago, it sure was good and creepy! We even quote it still from time to time!
"WRAAAAAPPED IN PLAAAAASTIC!!" :eek2:

Oh yes tapes, It hasn't been that long since DVD's took over the home video market, but VHS copies of twin peaks seems so ancient and nostalgic to me.

LostIslandBaby
05-06-2006, 12:17 PM
Yep, I really miss Twin Peaks. I would look forward to it every week, just like I look forward to Wednesday nights for Lost.

penyours
05-06-2006, 08:52 PM
Yep, I really miss Twin Peaks. I would look forward to it every week, just like I look forward to Wednesday nights for Lost.

Hey that's the exact same thing for me. Before twin peaks, I never really waited for or anticipated the new episode of a show. For other shows, if I missed an episode I wouldn't care at all. But I watched twin peaks almost religously, I couldn't wait for a new episode to air. After it ended there wasn't another show that planned my week around, until Lost.

LostIslandBaby
05-06-2006, 09:15 PM
My friend and I would always talk on the phone after an episode. We would be like, "OMG! I can't believe that!" or "Did you see that???????" :)

penyours
05-07-2006, 04:15 AM
My friend and I would always talk on the phone after an episode. We would be like, "OMG! I can't believe that!" or "Did you see that???????" :)

Oh I wish I could have done that when TP was on. I didn't know anyone else who watched the show and if I tried describing it to people they would just look at me with a weird expression on their face. I didn't meet another TP fans until I was in university and by then I had forgotten to much of the show to talk about it in detail.

mygoodeye
05-07-2006, 04:37 PM
that's great! Can't wait to read it :)



Oh yes tapes, It hasn't been that long since DVD's took over the home video market, but VHS copies of twin peaks seems so ancient and nostalgic to me.
and yet still the only way to see most of the series!

penyours
05-08-2006, 02:29 AM
and yet still the only way to see most of the series!

arrggh, dont remind me! At this rate we'll have the entire Lost series on DVD before twin peaks!

mygoodeye
05-09-2006, 08:38 AM
strong probability too. youd have thought the renewed interest in weird puzzling shows would have spurred the DVD release on

Necrite98
05-09-2006, 11:40 AM
From www.dugpa.com:


A few things to report are that INLAND EMPIRE will not premiere at this years Cannes Film Festival. Rumors have been floating around that it should be released sometime around November of this year. As for what that means for other Lynch Projects, you can expect that work on the transfers for Twin Peaks Season 2 will probably be delayed until after INLAND EMPIRE has completed. Lets cross our fingers and hope that this still means a late 2006 release will still be possible. In other Twin Peaks related news, I heard back from MK2 that they are still working with Lynch to try and come to some sort of agreement and that a re-release of FWWM on DVD would come out no earlier than early 2007.

So, due to the production of his latest movie INLAND EMPIRE running longer than expected, the digital transfers for Twin Peaks (which Lynch is personally overseeing to guarantee top quality) are being pushed back a bit. The bright side is that they ARE in the works. We Twin Peaks fans should be able to take solace in that fact at the very least.

BTW, I cannot wait for INLAND EMPIRE. I was (and still am) blown away by Mulholland Drive. I hope Lynch can keep up the work we've come to expect from him. He is shooting the entire film in digital (a first for a Lynch feature) and that is likely what is pushing production back. I'm sure he is playing with the look and feel of the movie in a new medium.

Deadshot
05-09-2006, 12:35 PM
Okay I was wondering if I should check this series out. Obviously I like Lost.Other things I like are X-Files,Buffy,Angel etc. Would I like this??

Necrite98
05-09-2006, 01:08 PM
Okay I was wondering if I should check this series out. Obviously I like Lost.Other things I like are X-Files,Buffy,Angel etc. Would I like this??

If you like all of those shows, you would probably like Twin Peaks. But to be honest, if you want to watch it I would recommend not even bothering with the first season until the second season is available on DVD. It is so frustrationg to watch season one and then hunt all over the globe for season two episodes. Even the VHS versions are getting difficult to find.

LostIslandBaby
05-09-2006, 01:36 PM
Actually, watch First Season now. Then you'll understand why we are all upset about the lack of Season Two on DVD. Then you can come here and talk about it with us!

Necrite98
05-09-2006, 01:53 PM
Actually, watch First Season now. Then you'll understand why we are all upset about the lack of Season Two on DVD. Then you can come here and talk about it with us!

Well Deadshot, you could do that too. But then you would have to suffer like the rest of us.

I've gotten to the point now that I refuse to watch my season one DVDs until season two is available. I've watched season one more times than I can count.

In any event, I'm sure you will like Twin Peaks. It's great! :biggrin:

LostIslandBaby
05-09-2006, 01:56 PM
Actually, watching season one over and over again is quite enjoyable as well. You find new layers every time. Deadshot, are you a fan of David Lynch? Either way, Twin Peaks is great!

penyours
05-09-2006, 07:31 PM
Deadshot, you should definitely watch twin peaks!!! It's more surreal than Lost, but it's in the same rhealm and you should enjoy it if you love Lost. :)

Deadshot
05-10-2006, 05:16 AM
I'll be getting it soon.Thanks guys!! :-D

mygoodeye
05-10-2006, 06:02 AM
i think id go crazy if all i saw was season 1 on DVD, considering its a murder mystery that doesnt get resolved until well into the second season.

LostIslandBaby
05-10-2006, 07:56 AM
i think id go crazy if all i saw was season 1 on DVD, considering its a murder mystery that doesnt get resolved until well into the second season.

There is truth to that:biggrin:

Necrite98
05-10-2006, 12:18 PM
That's why I gave the warning I did. It's hard to stop at the end of season one and not know what happens.

penyours
05-11-2006, 01:27 AM
where does season 1 end off again?

Oh and lostislandbaby, how could you lose me in economy! ;)

LostIslandBaby
05-11-2006, 01:38 AM
After Dale Cooper gets shot in the chest by an "unknown." There are only a few episodes in season one. Seven, perhaps. Anyway, I didn't lose you! You left me in economy and ran off to premium economy! :p

penyours
05-11-2006, 03:52 AM
Oh, in that case, I guess you'll be joining me again by the end of the week!

And you know I can't even remember who the unknown is right now, I'll definitely have to rewatch TP this summer!

mygoodeye
05-12-2006, 09:48 AM
actually, ive clean forgotten too...ive got episodes 9,10 & 11 on tape but not the one immediately afterward and i cant remember if you find out the shooter in those epis anyway.

isnt Audrey also kidnapped and drugged at One Eye'd Jacks in the season 1 cliffhanger?

LostIslandBaby
05-12-2006, 05:17 PM
I'm going to rewatch the season one dvd this weekend.

penyours
05-13-2006, 02:29 PM
Speaking of the DVD's I really wish that Lynch would do a director's commentary on some of the episodes, or the fire walk with me movie. Of course he never does those though. I hope he feels bad about the delay in S2 DVD's and does a commentary as a way of saying sorry

Necrite98
05-14-2006, 03:15 AM
Speaking of the DVD's I really wish that Lynch would do a director's commentary on some of the episodes, or the fire walk with me movie. Of course he never does those though. I hope he feels bad about the delay in S2 DVD's and does a commentary as a way of saying sorry

I can almost guarantee that he won't unfortunately.

I'm a little conflicted on this topic. I'd love to hear Lynch's thoughts on a commentary, but at the same time I think it's kind of cool that he refuses (he also refuses to break the movies into chapters.) The guy has some serious artistic integrity and really believes in his work. I think he feels that EVERYTHING you need is in the story. If it wasn't, then he messed up and the film/show is not complete.

For instance, on the Mulholland Drive DVD the only thing resembling a commentary from Lynch was his list of "clues" in the inside jacket. That cracked me up.

My wife and I talk about this all the time. She thinks Lynch is brilliant and hopes that he never does commentary. She loves his movies and does not want to hear him talking about them, because talking about them and explaining things would be like admitting that he failed as a story-teller. I have to agree with her to some extent, but I know his commentary would be hysterical!

Even on the rare occasion that he does discuss his work, he is so cryptic and misleading that you can hardly decopher what he means anyway (kind of like his movies..lol).

penyours
05-14-2006, 11:42 AM
Yeah, it's true, sometimes it's better not to have directors and actors talk about their works. I actually feel that way about the interviews with dancing little man (is his name michael anderson?) on the season one DVD. He actually tells a lot of great tidbits, but his personality is so postive and happy and it takes a bit of the mystique away from the dancing man :(

About lynch, yeah I think if he did a commentary, half the things he'd say would just confuse people more (kinda like how Javi answers people on this board) and he'd probably go off on tangents telling weird stories
that don't have anything to do with the movie, but it would be entertaining!

Tundra_Ice_cold77
05-14-2006, 11:52 AM
Best thing about Twin Peaks was THE CHARACTERS ACTUALLY TALKED TO EACH OTHER!!!!!! Why can't the Losties have a Secretary that comes in at the end of season one and says "Let's catch all of you up"!!??! I mean around a campfire, into a DHARMA approved megaphone:

"Attention everyone, there are several underground hatches on the Island" - Locke or Jack or Kate

"Also the Others are using costumes to make us think they are primitive" - Kate or Claire

"Also the prisoner in the hatch turned out to be with this Other group" -Anyone in the Loop

::end rant::

penyours
05-14-2006, 12:38 PM
Hey Djboy! that's so true, everyone on lost has trust issues and is worried that by sharing info, they will sound weird and crazy. Whereas on TP, weird was the norm, Cooper never worried about what he said, nor had any qualms if people made funny faces.

mygoodeye
05-14-2006, 04:02 PM
Best thing about Twin Peaks was THE CHARACTERS ACTUALLY TALKED TO EACH OTHER!!!!!! Why can't the Losties have a Secretary that comes in at the end of season one and says "Let's catch all of you up"!!??!

hahah id love it if Lucy washed up on the island as their secretary:biggrin: in fact she could replace the 'previously on Lost' bit...

Tundra_Ice_cold77
05-14-2006, 04:44 PM
The man from another place = Him

/probably already said

even better:

Bob = Him mwhahahahah ::evil laugh::

penyours
05-14-2006, 05:01 PM
Bob = Him mwhahahahah ::evil laugh::

AAAHH! Bob is too scary! That's one similarity I hope TPTB don't do! Though come to think of it Bob also had a soft spot for young girls and he had the ability to take over people's bodies and control them, which is similar to how the dreams have gotten the Losties to do things in an obsessive sort of way.

Also if Bob is a loose parallel to him, would Danielle be the rough equivalent to the one-armed man? Someone who used to be evil, but now rejects it. And is sort of an outcasts who fights evil. I've always had this sneaking suspicion that she used to be invovled with the others, but now is estranged from them and tries to work against them when possible.

mygoodeye
05-14-2006, 06:01 PM
when it turned out Marvin Candle only had one arm i thought that might have been a nod to Twin Peak's one armed man...

Tundra_Ice_cold77
05-15-2006, 05:57 PM
and wasn't Andy sterile in Twin Peaks ==== Jin being sterile

Qboots
06-06-2006, 03:39 AM
Oh cool! A “Twin Peaks” thread! Count me in as a fan too!

I was so hooked on that show. It would have been so great to have a forum like this back then.

Audrey Horne was my favorite character, although there’s a special place in my heart for all the characters from that show: Agent Cooper, Deputy Andy, James Hurley….. *sigh* I still get such a kick out of seeing anyone from the series, although sadly, several have died.

My hands-down favorite scene was when David Duchovny’s character first comes to the Great Northern and Audrey is in Cooper’s room and she doesn’t realize he’s a man. And after she leaves, Dennis/Denise tells Cooper “I still put my panties on one leg at a time.” :D

And maybe it was PMS, but I remember being absolutely shattered by Maddy’s death scene. First she’s dancing with Leland/BOB, and then he’s strangling her, and I’m sobbing on the floor like a lunatic.

The soundtrack is one of my favorite CD’s. I still play it all the time. Back when the show was still on the air, my boss went out of town for a few days. The morning he returned I had his office wallpapered with hundreds of copies of Laura Palmer’s prom photo and big banners with things like “Fire Walk With Me”, and “The Owls Are Not What They Seem”. And I had a few dozen donuts laid out across his desk. Luckily, he was a huge fan too.

I always got a kick out of the fact that One-Eyed Jack’s was in Canada. As if drugs and hookers and gambling were just nowhere to be found in the U.S. :biggrin:

Do you suppose if we dropped enough hints around here, we might get a scene with Kate tying a cherry stem in a knot with her tongue?

LostIslandBaby
06-07-2006, 12:30 AM
Yay, another TP fan! Unfortunately, I don't remember much from season two. Gosh, I had totally forgotten that Maddy dies.

And I love the soundtrack, too! I had it on tape, but I don't have it anymore. I had gotten rid of all of my cassettes:(

penyours
06-07-2006, 01:14 AM
I still get such a kick out of seeing anyone from the series, although sadly, several have died.


I always got a kick out of the fact that One-Eyed Jack’s was in Canada. As if drugs and hookers and gambling were just nowhere to be found in the U.S. :biggrin:

Yay, it's good to post in the TP thread again, it's been silent for a bit. Which actors have died?

And oh yeah, I forgot that one-eyed Jacks was in Canada, you know I always got a kick out of how Jacques Renault and his brother where the french Canadians operating out of British Columbia/Alberta, because yeah there's so many francophones over there Haha!

Qboots
06-07-2006, 05:05 AM
Yay, it's good to post in the TP thread again, it's been silent for a bit. Which actors have died?
Well, just off the top of my head:

Frank Silva (Killer Bob) died of AIDS back in '95
Jack Nance (Pete Martell) died in '96 of a blow to the head
Daniel O'Herlihy (Andrew Packard) died last year (he was in the Robocop movies)
John Boylan (Mayor Milford) died in '94 of lung cancer/pneumonia
Jane Greer (Vivian Niles - Norma Jennings' mother) died in '01
James Booth (Vivian's no-good hubby) died last year
Royce D. Applegate (Reverend Brocklehurst) died in a house fire in '03
Royal Dano (Judge Sternwood) died in '94 - heart attack

And remember the old waiter? He went into Cooper's hotel room after he'd been shot and it took him F-O-R-E-V-E-R to walk across the room? I think he was the first to pass away, back in '92. But hey, he was 91 years old.

One of the guys who did stuntwork for "Twin Peaks" is also doing stuntwork for "Lost". Mike Vendrell. He appeared in the scene where Kate robs the bank in New Mexico. And in TP, he appeared in a scene at One-Eyed Jack's.

penyours
06-07-2006, 04:33 PM
Well, just off the top of my head:

Frank Silva (Killer Bob) died of AIDS back in '95
Jack Nance (Pete Martell) died in '96 of a blow to the head
Daniel O'Herlihy (Andrew Packard) died last year (he was in the Robocop movies)
John Boylan (Mayor Milford) died in '94 of lung cancer/pneumonia
Jane Greer (Vivian Niles - Norma Jennings' mother) died in '01
James Booth (Vivian's no-good hubby) died last year
Royce D. Applegate (Reverend Brocklehurst) died in a house fire in '03
Royal Dano (Judge Sternwood) died in '94 - heart attack

And remember the old waiter? He went into Cooper's hotel room after he'd been shot and it took him F-O-R-E-V-E-R to walk across the room? I think he was the first to pass away, back in '92. But hey, he was 91 years old.

One of the guys who did stuntwork for "Twin Peaks" is also doing stuntwork for "Lost". Mike Vendrell. He appeared in the scene where Kate robs the bank in New Mexico. And in TP, he appeared in a scene at One-Eyed Jack's.

That's a little freaky! Is it just me or does it seem like an exorborant amount of people died a few year after the show ended. What does this mean? :eek2: :biggrin:

Necrite98
06-07-2006, 08:57 PM
Another real bummer about Twin Peaks is the town where the show was filmed.

Reading through this site, I was surprised by how many of the landmarks from the show are now gone:

The Topography of Twin Peaks (http://www.cinepad.com/twin_peaks/tp_topography.htm)

The Packard sawmill is gone.

The Double R Diner is gone.

I was pretty upset when I read that. I live in Portland and want to take a trip up to Snowqualmie (the town where TP was filmed). If the landmarks are gone, it might not be worth it. Though I may still go just to stay at the Great Northern!

penyours
06-07-2006, 09:14 PM
Another real bummer about Twin Peaks is the town where the show was filmed.

Reading through this site, I was surprised by how many of the landmarks from the show are now gone:

The Topography of Twin Peaks (http://www.cinepad.com/twin_peaks/tp_topography.htm)

The Packard sawmill is gone.

The Double R Diner is gone.

I was pretty upset when I read that. I live in Portland and want to take a trip up to Snowqualmie (the town where TP was filmed). If the landmarks are gone, it might not be worth it. Though I may still go just to stay at the Great Northern!

Oh that's disappointing :frown: I guess those landmarks were not enough of a tourist attraction to preserve them. i wonder if they still have the TP sets that they filmed on. I remember at one point that pie sales at the double R diner were booming and that they were consistantly sending pies to people all over America

Necrite98
06-21-2006, 01:58 PM
Eek!

We might have some good news fellow Twin Peaks fans!!!

http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=5890

LostIslandBaby
06-21-2006, 02:28 PM
That's good! I hope it's not another tease!

AZJeepDude
06-21-2006, 03:22 PM
I'm so glad I found this thread -- I was a total Peaks freak in college! In fact, I even had a Twin Peaks birthday party the night the second season debuted :-)

Say, does anyone remember an old TV special called "AFI Presents TV or Not TV?" It aired back in 1990. I used to have it on VHS, but I don't know whatever became of it. Anyways, there was this hysterically funny Twin Peaks parody with Michael McKean and Alyssa Milano. It had some great lines and some funny sight gags.

Some lines I remember (and probably not all that correctly):

Dale Cooper: "Well, Laura, while you may be a murdering, drug smuggling, teenage prostitute, you are our prom queen..."

And in another scene, after Agent Cooper lights up a cigarette and Laura smacks him across the cheek, knocking the cigarette out of his mouth,

Laura: "I just think that smoking is really bad for you."

And the reason the flourescent lights are blinking in another scene? A dwarf is jumping up and down flipping a light switch.

I wish I still had that tape...

LostIslandBaby
06-21-2006, 03:58 PM
I'm so glad I found this thread -- I was a total Peaks freak in college! In fact, I even had a Twin Peaks birthday party the night the second season debuted :-)

Say, does anyone remember an old TV special called "AFI Presents TV or Not TV?" It aired back in 1990. I used to have it on VHS, but I don't know whatever became of it. Anyways, there was this hysterically funny Twin Peaks parody with Michael McKean and Alyssa Milano. It had some great lines and some funny sight gags.

Some lines I remember (and probably not all that correctly):

Dale Cooper: "Well, Laura, while you may be a murdering, drug smuggling, teenage prostitute, you are our prom queen..."

And in another scene, after Agent Cooper lights up a cigarette and Laura smacks him across the cheek, knocking the cigarette out of his mouth,

Laura: "I just think that smoking is really bad for you."

And the reason the flourescent lights are blinking in another scene? A dwarf is jumping up and down flipping a light switch.

I wish I still had that tape...

Cool, glad there's another TP fan here!

I haven't heard of AFI presents, but that sounds hilarious! Thanks for sharing it with us!

penyours
10-30-2006, 09:19 PM
I'm so glad I found this thread -- I was a total Peaks freak in college! In fact, I even had a Twin Peaks birthday party the night the second season debuted :-)

Say, does anyone remember an old TV special called "AFI Presents TV or Not TV?" It aired back in 1990. I used to have it on VHS, but I don't know whatever became of it. Anyways, there was this hysterically funny Twin Peaks parody with Michael McKean and Alyssa Milano. It had some great lines and some funny sight gags.

Some lines I remember (and probably not all that correctly):

Dale Cooper: "Well, Laura, while you may be a murdering, drug smuggling, teenage prostitute, you are our prom queen..."

And in another scene, after Agent Cooper lights up a cigarette and Laura smacks him across the cheek, knocking the cigarette out of his mouth,

Laura: "I just think that smoking is really bad for you."

And the reason the flourescent lights are blinking in another scene? A dwarf is jumping up and down flipping a light switch.

I wish I still had that tape...


Hey AZJeepDude, didn't see your post until now, I never saw that parody, though I do rememeber the Saturday night Live skit with Kyle McLaughlin in it. That was hilarious!! Hmm I think I'm going to go to youtube and see if I can find anything.

Wood
05-30-2007, 02:20 PM
A friend of mine has both the 'Peek A Boo' parody and the SNL parody on VHS tape.

He finally converted them to DVD (the video quality is still pretty poor unfortunately) and I've uploaded the DVD via bittorrent.

Check it out:

http://www.mininova.org/tor/637977

YouTube links to both parodies:

Peek A Boo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXiLhxfnkKw
SNL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBuDOwAWbmc

About the shooting locations, this person did an AMAZING job photographing them in 2007. He seems to have even found the very branch the bird sits on in the opening credits!

http://www.intwinpeaks.com/

-Steve