Your theories on the remaining mysteries of the show

[Adam118]

Can this thread be re-booted for Season 6? a lot of these questions were answered.

[rocker]

Why, if they were 3000 miles off course when they crashed in '04, are they flying right over it now? There is no reason for them to not follow the normal flight routes. So why are they anywhere near the island? Please, this is driving me crazy! Nothing new there in Lost land.

[Juniebun]

About Sorbo 1980's comment about the pregnancy isssues, etc. -

Maybe, that's why the DI was brought to the Island. To repopulate it and pump up the Others' family, so-to-speak. Maybe, that's why everyone was brought to the Island...so that the Island would have a population again...

[Secoura]

Originally Posted by rocker

Why, if they were 3000 miles off course when they crashed in '04, are they flying right over it now? There is no reason for them to not follow the normal flight routes. So why are they anywhere near the island? Please, this is driving me crazy! Nothing new there in Lost land.

According to the pilot they were 1000 miles off course and given the way the camera zoomed through the clouds there's really no way to know for certain that the underwater island was beneath the plane.

[beema]

Originally Posted by Adam118

Can this thread be re-booted for Season 6? a lot of these questions were answered.

For those interested (like you maybe Adam), I have just updated my "Remaining mysteries" document, relevant to the info we received in LA X.

Link is in my sig.

Much of it is my own personal conjecture and pondering, so take from it what you will

[stick]

I think we've already been getting more answers than we think, we just aren't recognizing them. For instance:


In Season 4, Locke turned the Donkey Wheel and moved the island. The losties flashed to 1977, but we didn't know where/when the island moved to.

In Season 6, we see the island underwater, but we don't know how it got there.

Put those two mysteries together, and you actually answer them both.

It actually makes sense... we've never really seen the island circa 2005-2007. So it's very possible that we're still seeing one "timeline" (as opposed to alternate timelines that are mutually exclusive), and that the island has always been underwater in that time period.

But then of course, the island must somehow be moved again, above water, before the losties re-appear on it in 2007. Perhaps someone (Jack?) will be tasked with diving underwater and moving the island yet again. Sounds far-fetched, but no moreso than having a Donkey Wheel to begin with!

Or perhaps the Dharma shark bumps the wheel by accident! Or maybe on purpose....!??!



Another example: We don't know if the hydrogen bomb actually exploded or not.

In season 2, we learned that the Swan station features very thick cement walls ("like Chernobyl") possibly protecting nuclear material, and definitely housing strong electromagnetic power.

Do these not fit together perfectly? Meaning, the bomb exploded, but the electromagnetic forces we witnessed were so strong, they actually held back the full force of the explosion, creating a strange sort-of ball of energy, which Radzinsky and co. might build giant cement walls around, and be required to release parts of the energy every 108 minutes?


Basically, I think we're getting all of our answers, we just have to piece them all together.

[LostSasquatch]

WHISPERS: The whispers are a form of communication spreading through the Banyan trees. The Others know how to use it but the communication device also picks up feedback from dead people.

In a Star Wars story (either the Grand Admiral Thrawn trilogy or Dark Empire), it is revealed that the Emperor installed a listening device throughout the Senate halls on Coruscant. The listening device was a series of trees/vines/bushes running up and down columns--completely organic. The Emperor used the device to eavesdrop on Senators that might have been conspiring against him.

Star Wars has influenced Lost on many occasions. The Banyan trees have played a feature role in Lost since the pilot. The Banyan trees are a source of safety from Smokey. And whenever whispers have been heard, the Banyan trees are always prominently featured.

The Banyan trees are a communication device and the whispers are the communications--that's why Smokey uproots the trees, he is trying to cut off communications.

LITERARY SOURCE: The book Simulacra and Simulation by Jean Baudrillard will appear in the final season. LostSasquatch started an essay in Season 3 comparing the two works, but LostSasquatch became frustrated: "The real is produced from minaturized cells, matricies, memory banks, models of control--and it can be reproduced an infinite number of times...Beaubourg Effect: Implosion and Deterrence...The Animals: Territory and Metamorphosis..." jeesh. LostSasquatch bored himself to sasquatch tears.

AMAH ROCK RECONCILE: The legend of the Amah Rock was introduced in Tricia Tanaka is Dead (on Cheech's motorcycle)--it is the story of a fisherman's wife who waits faithfully for her husband to return home not knowing he drown at sea. She journeys to the top of a mountain every day with their child and she looks out to sea for his return. The gods reward her faithfulness by turning her to stone and her soul joins her husband for eternity.

We have seen Amah moments when Claire journeys to the radio tower. She is high on the mountain when Charlie dies and Aaron begins crying--Claire wonders aloud about Charlie not knowing he just drowned. When the O6 arrive on Mumbata, Kate is holding Aaron and takes one last look out to sea wondering about her man Sawyer, not knowing if he is alive or drowneded (sic). And who is the fisherman's wife on Lost--uh huh.

Sun and Jin will be reunited but will we have any more Amah moments? Hmmm...

FINAL IMAGE 1: Jack opens his eyes while laying in the jungle, just like the first scene in the pilot, but he is 5,000 feet under water at the bottom of the ocean and he dies. Fade to black--show over.

FINAL IMAGE 2: Jack opens his eyes, wakes from a dream while on the airplane, except the airplane is 5,000 feet under water and he dies. The "phoney" 815 that Widmore says he planted at the bottom of the ocean is actually the real flight 815 and it was mostly intact because it materialized at the bottom of the ocean after an incident...along with the under water Island. Widmore saying he planted the phoney was phoney.

FINAL IMAGE 3: Jack is spinning thread on a loom.

Cool, now those are out there and LostSasquatch can say told you so. The deer think I'm nuts about the Simulacra and Simulation connection but the squirrels and banana slugs love it. The digital converter box works great out here in the forest and the rabbits are especially thankful--their ears are feeling much better now.

[rocker]

My favorite is an old one. John's mother told hin he ws immaculately conceived and part of a design. I think Jacob was the immaculate conceiver.and the MiB or something else connected to him tried to kill John by running over his mother. John survives his early birth, when he should have died. He get's pushed out a window, and whether Jacob's touch brought him back to life or not, he survived. He survived the plane crash. The point being he always survives. I think more of John has survived in MiB than he thought possible, and I think MiB will start to reflect John. I mean MiB tripped over a tree root just like Locke did.

[Hanover]

Originally Posted by stick

It actually makes sense... we've never really seen the island circa 2005-2007. So it's very possible that we're still seeing one "timeline" (as opposed to alternate timelines that are mutually exclusive), and that the island has always been underwater in that time period.

But then of course, the island must somehow be moved again, above water, before the losties re-appear on it in 2007. Perhaps someone (Jack?) will be tasked with diving underwater and moving the island yet again. Sounds far-fetched, but no moreso than having a Donkey Wheel to begin with!

Walt! He brought the island back up again...explains why he was dripping wet when he appeared to Shannon in season 2.

...you think I'm kidding?

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Originally Posted by Juniebun

Now, I don't know about the randomness of Jack ending up in the jungle. Was that random? I still kinda wonder about that one, but I like wondering about Jack...

I think the people (Kate, Jack, Hurley, etc) who flashed out of the Ajira flight and into the lagoon was our answer...they landed on the Island before the plane did.

Remember, the Ajira flight still landed despite the fact a few people disappeared out of the plane. So why couldnt the Oceanic Flight 815 crashed after they flashed out of the plane?

[ill cognito]

I am currently re-watching Season #1 again and a couple of questions/mysteries came to my mind.

First, in the episode :"The Moth" why did Locke setup up Sawyer? Sayid came to Locke asking his whereabouts when he(Sayid) got bashed over the head while trying to triangulate the distress signal. Locke offered up Saywer, who had an alibi. Locke explained how someone could use a cigarette to improvise a slow fuse(Sawyer smokes) and offered up a motive telling Sayid that Sawyer is "profitting" from their current situation and has reason not to leave the Island. Then Locke proceeds to give an angry Sayid a hunting knife....for next time, he says.

Locke's actions nearly ended up getting Sawyer killed by Sayid. Locke had to know that could of been a possible outcome to the situation. I understand that Locke is the one who doesn't want to leave and doesn't want Sayid to know it was him who bashed him, but why do it? Why not just leave it at the lie about being out killing a boar?

Secondly, In Rasied by Another when Claire finds out she is pregnant Thomas is all for having the baby. Until one day he comes home and does a complete 180. I've always wondered if someone "got to him". I mean did someone approach him and either threaten him or possibly pay him off to end his relationship with Claire in order to give her the "nudge" she needed to go back to the psychic?

Lastly, when Michael went out to hunt with Locke and Kate why did he choose to leave Walt with Sun? I mean out of all the women that survived the crash why try to pawn your kid off on the one who doesn't speak English?

I'm really only half-serious about that last one.